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bryce03 · Nov 10th, 2006, 06:51 PM

Okay, so I was a bad boy today. Over took a lorry, came around the corner onto a mile long straight (no junctions, or other cars, 8.10am). I was doing 70mph, in a 60 zone. And heres the speed van sitting. Hit the brakes down to 50.
I was in the works van (Renault Traffic), and iv just been informed I should only be doing 50.

Basically, will they have got me anyway as soon as I came into view?

Also, I know about the 10% +1 or 2. So I might be lucky if Im allowed to do 60 in the van, but if not, can they actually tell what type of vehicle it is?

ie If I was doing 65 in a 60, I wouldnt get snapped, but that would really be 15mph over the limit for a van. (makes sence in my head!)

Yeah I know I shouldnt have been speeding in the first place, but please let us not go into that.

thanks
bryce

ttocs · Nov 10th, 2006, 06:57 PM

probably not, they generally use the speed linit plus 10% plus 2 mph, i.e. 69 in a 60. This said I've been done at 33 in a 30 in Slough before.

Capsaisin · Nov 10th, 2006, 07:09 PM

Depends really why it was there. Could be just to make traffic slow down, but if it was situated just around a blind bend, you can bet it was "active".
Depends what they clocked you at and the weight of the van. If the van is over 2ton you should have been sticking to 50mph. Renault Traffic - you'll have to do the maths on that one?
You'll soon know.

bryce03 · Nov 10th, 2006, 07:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by baldrick (original)

This said I've been done at 33 in a 30 in Slough before.

Van or Traffic Cops? Mighta been due to circumstances if it was cops. ie. near school at closing time.

bryce03 · Nov 10th, 2006, 07:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Capsaisin (original)

Depends really why it was there. Could be just to make traffic slow down, but if it was situated just around a blind bend, you can bet it was "active".
Depends what they clocked you at and the weight of the van. If the van is over 2ton you should have been sticking to 50mph. Renault Traffic - you'll have to do the maths on that one?
You'll soon know.

Wasn't a blind bend, sweeping corner just before it.

The van is only 1.7tonne max.

Iv heard its quite quick. Around a week?

ttocs · Nov 10th, 2006, 07:51 PM

Yeah, but if you have to send your license away it takes forever (10 weeks for me). Big issue especially if you need a hire car at any time.

SiBradbury · Nov 10th, 2006, 08:53 PM

The likelyhood is that they were just pinging vehicles exceeding the speed limit on that section of road rather than vehicles exceeding the prescribed limit for the class of vehicle.

Car derived vans (thats the key point) up to 2 tonnes fully laden use the same speed limits as cars but "goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 tonnes max laden weight" are restricted to 50 mph on single carriageways and 60mph on motorways and dual carriageways. As the Renault Traffic is not car derived, this means you!

The Highway Code (speed limits)

Lawrothegreat · Nov 10th, 2006, 09:17 PM

I didn't know that!

I was driving a new Ford Transit towards the end of August on a dual-carriageway at 70mph, drove past a police officer (on a motorbike) with a mobile device set up on a tripod, and he gave me one long stare as I drove past. Looks like I was breaking the speed limit. Oops. Oh well, I hope that within 2 and 1/2 months I would have heard by now even via the rental company.

It was an interesting drive, the Transit was a 2006 (pre latest facelift) model but really was shocking in every way. The gearbox was a hammer connected to a box of jelly, the steering was so unbelieveably vague with lots of play, the brakes were actually dangerous, the cabin and use of plastics I'm sure haven't changed since 1986. I was so so surprised - I thought vans had become a lot better, I can't believe traffics and sprinters are that bad.

KostaLot · Nov 10th, 2006, 09:39 PM

You should be fine mate. I drive a Vauxhall Vivaro (Same as the Traffic) at work quite often, and i asked a copper about this car derived van effort. He said i would be fine in the Vivaro.

giler · Nov 10th, 2006, 09:56 PM

Some cameras are only set to moniter tax dodgers as well. Fingers crossed here's hoping

mexico · Dec 8th, 2006, 04:35 PM

The speed laser cameras have a range over 1Km and tend to like straights where you can't see them and overtake . Unlikely they would be hiding around a bend.

Nov 10th, 2006, 06:51 PM	#1
bryce03 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Scotland Local Time: 02:01 AM Posts: 193 Offline	Speed Van - Can they tell? Okay, so I was a bad boy today. Over took a lorry, came around the corner onto a mile long straight (no junctions, or other cars, 8.10am). I was doing 70mph, in a 60 zone. And heres the speed van sitting. Hit the brakes down to 50. I was in the works van (Renault Traffic), and iv just been informed I should only be doing 50. Basically, will they have got me anyway as soon as I came into view? Also, I know about the 10% +1 or 2. So I might be lucky if Im allowed to do 60 in the van, but if not, can they actually tell what type of vehicle it is? ie If I was doing 65 in a 60, I wouldnt get snapped, but that would really be 15mph over the limit for a van. (makes sence in my head!) Yeah I know I shouldnt have been speeding in the first place, but please let us not go into that. thanks bryce Last edited by bryce03 : Nov 10th, 2006 at 07:09 PM. Reason: see also

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Nov 10th, 2006, 06:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
ttocs MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 03:01 AM Posts: 3,677 Offline	probably not, they generally use the speed linit plus 10% plus 2 mph, i.e. 69 in a 60. This said I've been done at 33 in a 30 in Slough before.

Nov 10th, 2006, 07:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Capsaisin cave capsicum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crewe Local Time: 03:01 AM Posts: 3,364 Offline	Depends really why it was there. Could be just to make traffic slow down, but if it was situated just around a blind bend, you can bet it was "active". Depends what they clocked you at and the weight of the van. If the van is over 2ton you should have been sticking to 50mph. Renault Traffic - you'll have to do the maths on that one? You'll soon know.

Nov 10th, 2006, 07:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
bryce03 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Scotland Local Time: 02:01 AM Posts: 193 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by baldrick (original) This said I've been done at 33 in a 30 in Slough before. Van or Traffic Cops? Mighta been due to circumstances if it was cops. ie. near school at closing time.

Nov 10th, 2006, 07:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
bryce03 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Scotland Local Time: 02:01 AM Posts: 193 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Capsaisin (original) Depends really why it was there. Could be just to make traffic slow down, but if it was situated just around a blind bend, you can bet it was "active". Depends what they clocked you at and the weight of the van. If the van is over 2ton you should have been sticking to 50mph. Renault Traffic - you'll have to do the maths on that one? You'll soon know. Wasn't a blind bend, sweeping corner just before it. The van is only 1.7tonne max. Iv heard its quite quick. Around a week?

Nov 10th, 2006, 07:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
ttocs MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 03:01 AM Posts: 3,677 Offline	Yeah, but if you have to send your license away it takes forever (10 weeks for me). Big issue especially if you need a hire car at any time.

Nov 10th, 2006, 08:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
SiBradbury "I'm kind of a big deal" My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wirral Local Time: 03:01 AM Posts: 1,151 Offline	The likelyhood is that they were just pinging vehicles exceeding the speed limit on that section of road rather than vehicles exceeding the prescribed limit for the class of vehicle. Car derived vans (thats the key point) up to 2 tonnes fully laden use the same speed limits as cars but "goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 tonnes max laden weight" are restricted to 50 mph on single carriageways and 60mph on motorways and dual carriageways. As the Renault Traffic is not car derived, this means you! The Highway Code (speed limits)

Nov 10th, 2006, 09:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lawrothegreat Mini Design Philosopher Join Date: May 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Local Time: 02:01 AM Posts: 832 Offline	I didn't know that! I was driving a new Ford Transit towards the end of August on a dual-carriageway at 70mph, drove past a police officer (on a motorbike) with a mobile device set up on a tripod, and he gave me one long stare as I drove past. Looks like I was breaking the speed limit. Oops. Oh well, I hope that within 2 and 1/2 months I would have heard by now even via the rental company. It was an interesting drive, the Transit was a 2006 (pre latest facelift) model but really was shocking in every way. The gearbox was a hammer connected to a box of jelly, the steering was so unbelieveably vague with lots of play, the brakes were actually dangerous, the cabin and use of plastics I'm sure haven't changed since 1986. I was so so surprised - I thought vans had become a lot better, I can't believe traffics and sprinters are that bad.

Nov 10th, 2006, 09:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
giler S pilot Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stroud Local Time: 03:01 AM Posts: 84 Offline	Some cameras are only set to moniter tax dodgers as well. Fingers crossed here's hoping

Dec 8th, 2006, 04:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
mexico MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Local Time: 02:01 AM Posts: 11 Offline	The speed laser cameras have a range over 1Km and tend to like straights where you can't see them and overtake . Unlikely they would be hiding around a bend.

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