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Berthil · Nov 21st, 2006, 12:58 PM

Here is the original story and are the original pictures on Autobild.de for the ones who know German

rec · Nov 21st, 2006, 01:03 PM

pah, anyone care to translate ?

Berthil · Nov 21st, 2006, 01:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

pah, anyone care to translate ?

I did, but to Dutch

But here is a Babelfish translation from my pages

popey · Nov 21st, 2006, 04:29 PM

Shame the R56 is always closest to the Camera, the aspect of the shot makes it look bigger.

rec · Nov 21st, 2006, 04:39 PM

yeah, i noticed that too... shame, cos it makes it look so much bigger when it isn't

*Vikki* · Nov 21st, 2006, 04:40 PM

no not in length so much only 6cm, but its much more chunky looking and higher up on the bonnet and less window and more body which gives you the impression its bigger

Bilbo Baggins · Nov 21st, 2006, 06:00 PM

Very nice comparison photos.

I'm sorry to lose the storage compartments in the doors and the storage compartments alongside of the rear seats and along each side of the boot. The car had limited enough storage as it was, now it is even worse. I'd gladly give up a little extra rear seat width and get storage back, and give up a little boot space to have the 2 covered compartments there.

Now the compressor and "Slime", along with the tire plugging kit, will have to take up prescious floor space instead of being secured safely out of the way in the little cubbys. I don't have any idea where my CD storage folder is going to go.

Sorry to hijack the thread. Rant over.

I do appreciate the photo comparisson. Well done.

It really shows just how much higher the bonnet is and how it effects the whole re-design of the car. How much the waist line is raised and how squished the side windows look now, especially in the rear. The whole front end just looks much more bulky and the grille more agressive.

The interior shots really demonstrates how jumbled the instrument display in the R56 is and how difficult it will be to read it quickly. The longer your eyes are off the road, trying to locate and decifer information, the greater a chance of an accident. The earliest dash arrangement, '02 - '04, was the best. Displays with larger readouts, spaced out so you knew exactly where to look for each piece of information. ie: clock in the overhead, mileage and trip mileage in the speedo, computer information in the tach display.

Then there is the steering wheel, but that is a whole other issue.

JOHO

rasp · Nov 21st, 2006, 11:38 PM

Good set of pics, the bonnet scoop positioning on the R56 looks completely wrong...

William Courant · Nov 21st, 2006, 11:46 PM

Maybe it's just the perspective on the pics but, don't like the front end at all

Looks to bulbous

mGP · Nov 21st, 2006, 11:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rasp (original)

Good set of pics, the bonnet scoop positioning on the R56 looks completely wrong...

They could have put it on the roof; it still wouldn't have made any difference....

(awaits flaming from rec)

MiniMpi · Nov 22nd, 2006, 12:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Chris.F (original)

Excellent pics for comparing.......Soundproofing missing on ALL the cars I saw at weekend?

The 'S' at my dealer launch HAD soundproofing but the Cooper did not.
On queering my dealer on the lack of one on the Cooper(as I'm getting one

)he told me that they(the factory)have decided not to put any on to get a better noise from the engine,'cause there was complaints at the start that it was too quiet.
Think it would look alot better under the bonnet with some though......
Fergal.

rec · Nov 22nd, 2006, 08:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by mGP (original)

They could have put it on the roof; it still wouldn't have made any difference....

(awaits flaming from rec)

dont care, it's on an S, which i aint getting. prefer the Cooper bonnet to the S anyway :P

R1 · Nov 22nd, 2006, 10:21 AM

Shame the R56 didn't look similar to this:

Paul · Nov 22nd, 2006, 10:24 AM

Can you imagine the outcry! If the current car isn't "MINI" enough for some?!?

R1 · Nov 22nd, 2006, 10:33 AM

Yes, but it does look mean. Imagine that in black with a white roof and a 2ltr supercharged engine!!

Dribbling allready!

Paul · Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:01 AM

Kind of like a cross between the first generation and the acv30 (The UNOFFICIAL Austin-Rover Web Resource)

LMB · Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

they haven't raised the car that much, they raised the base of the window line cos of the extra height in the bonnet.

I know what they've raised and why, I just didn't realise by how much until I saw that pic.

LMB · Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

i'd much prefer to look at a ToysRUs centre console than one that looks like it was lifted out of a Sierra.

Easy now, this isn't a 'mine is better than yours' thread. Each to their own.

Olly. · Nov 22nd, 2006, 12:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mGP (original)

They could have put it on the roof; it still wouldn't have made any difference....

(awaits flaming from rec)

Rumour has it that the scoop does serve a purpose now

Jon Chalk · Nov 22nd, 2006, 01:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by R1 (original)

Shame the R56 didn't look similar to this:

Drifitng even further off-topic - That looks more similar to the Audi A1 pics I've seen

Nov 21st, 2006, 12:58 PM	#21
Berthil MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sittard (NL) Local Time: 02:59 AM Posts: 759 Offline	Here is the original story and are the original pictures on Autobild.de for the ones who know German EB/W R53 MCS Highly Modified

Nov 21st, 2006, 01:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
rec Not a happy bunny. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotthall MINI Often Local Time: 02:59 AM Posts: 1,209 Offline	pah, anyone care to translate ? Got an R56 ? Flaunt It ! http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-d...st-ya-r56.html

Nov 21st, 2006, 01:19 PM	#23 (permalink)
Berthil MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sittard (NL) Local Time: 02:59 AM Posts: 759 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original) pah, anyone care to translate ? I did, but to Dutch But here is a Babelfish translation from my pages EB/W R53 MCS Highly Modified

Nov 21st, 2006, 04:39 PM	#25 (permalink)
rec Not a happy bunny. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotthall MINI Often Local Time: 02:59 AM Posts: 1,209 Offline	yeah, i noticed that too... shame, cos it makes it look so much bigger when it isn't Got an R56 ? Flaunt It ! http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-d...st-ya-r56.html

Nov 21st, 2006, 06:00 PM	#27 (permalink)
Bilbo Baggins MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Shire, Middle Earth Local Time: 09:59 PM Posts: 8,852 Offline	Very nice comparison photos. I'm sorry to lose the storage compartments in the doors and the storage compartments alongside of the rear seats and along each side of the boot. The car had limited enough storage as it was, now it is even worse. I'd gladly give up a little extra rear seat width and get storage back, and give up a little boot space to have the 2 covered compartments there. Now the compressor and "Slime", along with the tire plugging kit, will have to take up prescious floor space instead of being secured safely out of the way in the little cubbys. I don't have any idea where my CD storage folder is going to go. Sorry to hijack the thread. Rant over. I do appreciate the photo comparisson. Well done. It really shows just how much higher the bonnet is and how it effects the whole re-design of the car. How much the waist line is raised and how squished the side windows look now, especially in the rear. The whole front end just looks much more bulky and the grille more agressive. The interior shots really demonstrates how jumbled the instrument display in the R56 is and how difficult it will be to read it quickly. The longer your eyes are off the road, trying to locate and decifer information, the greater a chance of an accident. The earliest dash arrangement, '02 - '04, was the best. Displays with larger readouts, spaced out so you knew exactly where to look for each piece of information. ie: clock in the overhead, mileage and trip mileage in the speedo, computer information in the tach display. Then there is the steering wheel, but that is a whole other issue. JOHO Motor on, Dudes and Dudettes!!! '06 MCS SB/S '02 MCS DS/W (retired) Last edited by Bilbo Baggins : Nov 21st, 2006 at 07:01 PM.

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Nov 21st, 2006, 04:29 PM	#24 (permalink)
popey Wanted an Audi My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 01:59 AM Posts: 1,643 Offline	Shame the R56 is always closest to the Camera, the aspect of the shot makes it look bigger.

Nov 21st, 2006, 04:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
Vikki Winner MM best MINI ONE! My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: St Leonards-on-Sea Local Time: 01:59 AM Posts: 2,175 Offline	no not in length so much only 6cm, but its much more chunky looking and higher up on the bonnet and less window and more body which gives you the impression its bigger

Nov 21st, 2006, 11:38 PM	#28 (permalink)
rasp The Mini Family Sponsers Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Harlow Local Time: 02:59 AM Posts: 1,629 Offline	Good set of pics, the bonnet scoop positioning on the R56 looks completely wrong...

Nov 21st, 2006, 11:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
William Courant MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Alameda, CA Local Time: 06:59 PM Posts: 317 Offline	Maybe it's just the perspective on the pics but, don't like the front end at all Looks to bulbous A car, A legend, A way of life

Nov 21st, 2006, 11:47 PM	#30 (permalink)
mGP ~ Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 02:59 AM Posts: 939 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by rasp (original) Good set of pics, the bonnet scoop positioning on the R56 looks completely wrong... They could have put it on the roof; it still wouldn't have made any difference.... (awaits flaming from rec) GPower.......pop..pop..pop

Nov 22nd, 2006, 12:00 AM	#31 (permalink)
MiniMpi MINI MAD in IRELAND <div><a href= Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cork,Ireland. Local Time: 01:59 AM Posts: 545 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris.F (original) Excellent pics for comparing.......Soundproofing missing on ALL the cars I saw at weekend? The 'S' at my dealer launch HAD soundproofing but the Cooper did not. On queering my dealer on the lack of one on the Cooper(as I'm getting one )he told me that they(the factory)have decided not to put any on to get a better noise from the engine,'cause there was complaints at the start that it was too quiet. Think it would look alot better under the bonnet with some though...... Fergal. It's a MINI Clubman adventure!

Nov 22nd, 2006, 08:29 AM	#32 (permalink)
rec Not a happy bunny. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotthall MINI Often Local Time: 02:59 AM Posts: 1,209 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mGP (original) They could have put it on the roof; it still wouldn't have made any difference.... (awaits flaming from rec) dont care, it's on an S, which i aint getting. prefer the Cooper bonnet to the S anyway :P Got an R56 ? Flaunt It ! http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-d...st-ya-r56.html

Nov 22nd, 2006, 10:21 AM	#33 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 01:59 AM Posts: 4,866 Offline	Shame the R56 didn't look similar to this:

Nov 22nd, 2006, 10:24 AM	#34 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 01:59 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	Can you imagine the outcry! If the current car isn't "MINI" enough for some?!? Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Nov 22nd, 2006, 10:33 AM	#35 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 01:59 AM Posts: 4,866 Offline	Yes, but it does look mean. Imagine that in black with a white roof and a 2ltr supercharged engine!! Dribbling allready!

Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:01 AM	#36 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 01:59 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	Kind of like a cross between the first generation and the acv30 (The UNOFFICIAL Austin-Rover Web Resource) Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:06 AM	#37 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 01:59 AM Posts: 23,727 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original) they haven't raised the car that much, they raised the base of the window line cos of the extra height in the bonnet. I know what they've raised and why, I just didn't realise by how much until I saw that pic. Global Moderator

Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:10 AM	#38 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 01:59 AM Posts: 23,727 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original) i'd much prefer to look at a ToysRUs centre console than one that looks like it was lifted out of a Sierra. Easy now, this isn't a 'mine is better than yours' thread. Each to their own. Global Moderator

Nov 22nd, 2006, 12:12 PM	#39 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 02:59 AM Posts: 3,458 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mGP (original) They could have put it on the roof; it still wouldn't have made any difference.... (awaits flaming from rec) Rumour has it that the scoop does serve a purpose now

Nov 22nd, 2006, 01:03 PM	#40 (permalink)
Jon Chalk Cooperama? Who's he? Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Local Time: 02:59 AM Posts: 689 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by R1 (original) Shame the R56 didn't look similar to this: Drifitng even further off-topic - That looks more similar to the Audi A1 pics I've seen

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