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Old Dec 22nd, 2006, 05:34 PM   #1
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United-Kingdom HELP scrap the planned vehicle tracking & road pricing policy

A petition that all road users should consider signing.....so, sign away peeps...

Observer, 17/12/06

More than 40,000 people have joined a growing internet protest against government plans to introduce a national system of road pricing to cut congestion. By Friday 44,000 opponents had signed a petition posted by a campaigner on the Prime Minister's official website, dwarfing others logged on it.

The Downing Street site set up an online service for the public to send petitions to Tony Blair last month. The huge response to the road-pricing 'e-petition' in less than four weeks will raise fears that the government's most important transport policy could be scrapped if politicians believe opposition is too great. This follows closely behind a report from the Institute for Public Policy Research think-tank, which warned that less than 40 per cent of people supported road pricing.

More at Protests grow over Blair's plans for national road pricing | Travel and transport | Guardian Unlimited Environment

The petition can be found here:

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Scrap the planned vehicle tracking and road pricing policy.

Please pass it on...

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Old Dec 22nd, 2006, 05:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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listen we voted these bampots in we can vote them out
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Old Dec 22nd, 2006, 10:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Never voted for them and never will, just hope those who did now see the error of their ways.

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Old Dec 22nd, 2006, 10:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've just signed. Total number of signatures now up to 65,380!

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Old Dec 24th, 2006, 08:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Its never going to happen. They cant even contemplate it until there is a viable alternative. The government seem to think that there are thousands of ppl on the M6 in the morning to to be annoying.

They want conjestion charging, the fiarest way is giving ppl choice, the M6 toll been a great example. If you dont want to sit in the traffic, then you pay for the priviledge. Whats wrong with that.

Anyway, theyll never get the technology to work, even the wires in the heated windscreen block Sat Nav devices, I can see a lot of fun with ppl blocking the gps signal.

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Old Dec 24th, 2006, 09:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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They should do away completely with the road tax if they introduce this stupid tax. You cannot have two taxes running in tandem - it is a stupid and short sighted idea.

The motorist has been taxed till the pips squeek during the lifetime of the Blair Government. Mind you most of those in Government have chauffers so it doesn't concern them. Blair has lost the plot - thank God I never ever voted for him!
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Old Dec 24th, 2006, 11:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
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this is the reason i dont vote. cos no one available knows that the hell the country wants !
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Old Dec 24th, 2006, 12:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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This road pricing is ridiculous! they'll know exactly where you are all the time! tolls are the only way to go
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Old Dec 24th, 2006, 12:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Signed.

Only 66,000 people so far, which i dont think is enough for the PM to actully care. Need a few million!


Someone send this petition out to the media!!

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Old Dec 24th, 2006, 12:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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when the day comes that all mp`s use public transport, and i am talking around the shires, not from their free accomodation in london, to and from work on the tube, i will pay up, otherwise forget it.

also how many non uk plates on cars and trucks do you see, how will they pay?
so when the law ever takes off, get a time share in spain/france get some europlates
and laugh as you enjoy the cheap petrol and free road tax that will have to come to sweeten the pill of yet another half baked idea

suggest my ideas to be far better

1st any non uk reg car/truck pays a weekly road tax, with a max rebate to any motor of 2wks per year, this keeps the tourist industry happy, and gets the black economy paying some tax

2 to buy petrol your car/driver has to produce documents, swipe a card, to prove/confirm tax/insurance, so that any stolen car car gets picked up, note that the big petrol guys have numberplate cameras now to catch non payers, and most hgv drivers have to swipe b4 they pay already, so this is not rocket science, just another use for chip and pin

get all the uninsured and unroadworthy cars of the streets 1st
anybody convicted of car related crime [not parking/speeding] gets 3yr ban
then ensure that any fine is at least five times a fully comp price, so if local asbo nicks my motor
were not talking £350 and points on a licence they don`t own anyway,

lets say mcs works, under 21 sir, driving/learning less than a year, bet loyds quote 3-4k min
so the git has to fork out 10-20k, that will make them think twice

making driving without insurance painfull and difficult will make it cheaper for the rest of us

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Old Jan 3rd, 2007, 12:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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HELP scrap the planned vehicle tracking & road pricing policy

For all you drivers out there...

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/

Sign and pass it on. It only takes a minute.

The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it. The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver. A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.

On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can expect a NIP with your monthly bill.

If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant bashing of the car driver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website.

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Old Jan 3rd, 2007, 01:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old Jan 3rd, 2007, 01:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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mmmmm after looking into this.....its not good lol

according to one site we could be paying up to £1.34 for major roads in rush hour! meaning that those of us who HAVE to use these roads at the peak times will get penalised badly!

For instance.....

I drive approx. 30,000 miles a year...... so if 15,000 (half) of those were on motorways in peak times (very possible) i would have to pay out £20,100 not including the other 15,000 miles per year.....

If, for arguments sake, 'normal' roads were then 20p per mile, With rural roads at 2p poer mile that would bring the grand total up around to £20,000!! (depending on the split of the usage)

thats £1,666 per month!

oh deer........

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Old Jan 3rd, 2007, 01:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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copied from the other thread....

mmmmm after looking into this.....its not good lol

according to one site we could be paying up to £1.34 for major roads in rush hour! meaning that those of us who HAVE to use these roads at the peak times will get penalised badly!

For instance.....

I drive approx. 30,000 miles a year...... so if 15,000 (half) of those were on motorways in peak times (very possible) i would have to pay out £20,100 not including the other 15,000 miles per year.....

If, for arguments sake, 'normal' roads were then 20p per mile, With rural roads at 2p poer mile that would bring the grand total up around to £20,000!! (depending on the split of the usage)

thats £1,666 per month!

oh deer........
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Old Jan 3rd, 2007, 02:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Petition is now up to 80123. I'm a little bothered as to how seriously it will be taken.

Further down the list is:

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to…
stand on his head and juggle ice-cream.

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Quote: Originally Posted by MINIMAT (original)
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to…
stand on his head and juggle ice-cream.

Where do I sign?

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