MINI2 Header Logo

MINI2

Fuel for your MINI obsession

Wipac
Welcome to MINI2.
You are currently viewing MINI2 as a guest.
Please register by clicking this link or login:
       
Search forums: Show: Advanced: Forums or Members or Tags
View Poll Results: Should the UK motorway speed limit be changed?
No 20 19.05%
Yes, to 80mph 39 37.14%
Yes, to 90mph 27 25.71%
Yes, to 100mph 19 18.10%
Voters: 105. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 09:01 AM   #21
Robboc
MINI2 Regular
 
Robboc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Epsom, Surrey
Local Time: 02:59 AM
Posts: 276
Offline
Send a message via MSN to Robboc
I agree. The inside lane is usually pretty clear. Great for fast undertaking manouvres.

135 should be the speed limit. After that things start to shake a little.



England Male View Robboc's Chili Red & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Sponsors

Sponsored Links


Registered members do not see Google Ads posts, they can also post messages, pictures, and classified adverts.
Register your free account today and become a member of MINI2 - MINI Forum
   
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 09:17 AM   #22 (permalink)
jcwjim
Jimmer
 
jcwjim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oxfordshire
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 36
Offline
Hate to be a killjoy but it's more likley to be changed to a 60mph limit!!!!

What with all the enviromental concerns these days I expect it to be reduced to lower emissions not that it will help much when you get caught up in traffic and the speed drops to more like 30 mph.

I'm all for increasing it though.

United Kingdom Male View jcwjim's Dark Silver & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 10:31 AM   #23 (permalink)
wiggis
Life after MINI
 
wiggis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxford
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 370
Offline
More people would use the inside lane if it wasn't strewn with large pieces of shredded tyres from undermaintained crappy HGV's which have thrown them off, diesel spills and other general skid inducing crap, as well as 6 inch nails and other flotsam that has flown off the back of pickup trucks and other similar industrial vehicles.

Would like to bet that the majority of the poor sods sitting on the hard shoulder with punctured tyres obtained their puncture after driving in the inside lane and picking up a piece of shrapnel as per above.

I vote to keep the limit at 70 mph until such time as the peanut brained majority learn how to operate a vehicle properly at that kind of speed - i.e. until the driving test is a lot more thorough, and includes lesson on motorway driving.
United Kingdom   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 11:38 AM   #24 (permalink)
JG.26
MINI2 Master
 
JG.26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virtual World
Local Time: 02:59 AM
Posts: 1,038
Offline
Quote: Originally Posted by Robboc (original)
I agree. The inside lane is usually pretty clear. Great for fast undertaking manouvres.

135 should be the speed limit. After that things start to shake a little.

I hope that is not indicative of your own driving style?. That is precisely the reason why I try and avoid motorways. Undertaking at high speed is both irresponsible, highly dangerous and says 2 fingers to the person being undertaken and is more likely than anything to cause agro and hence a serious accident. Undertaking really gets up my nose as it's pure poor driving manners

Read the highway code
United Kingdom Male View JG.26's Pure Silver & Black 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 11:44 AM   #25 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan
MINI Obsessed...
 
MINI-Morgan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Southampton, Hants
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 4,679
Offline
Send a message via MSN to MINI-Morgan Send a message via Yahoo to MINI-Morgan
Yes and no......

Yes it should be variable speed limit e.g. 85mph dry and 70mph wet or something.

No cause there's too many drivers that cant manage to even drive at 70mph without crashing into everything in site.
United Kingdom Male View MINI-Morgan's Solid Black & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 11:55 AM   #26 (permalink)
Fin
Giggity-goo!
 
Fin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Dangling by a thread
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 2,640
Offline
Send a message via MSN to Fin
There have been some interesting points raised. I see many of us are of the general consensus that there are many road users who are far too incompetent to go any faster.

Wiggis: I agree with you on the FOD that can be encountered travelling in the 'slow' lane from all kinds of vehicles. I recently saw a programme where VOSA were spot-checking HGV's, and the huge numbers of them that were unroadworthy, coupled with drivers that had been driving for 14 hours straight scared the hell out of me. I am even more wary when passing HGVs. And I agree, Motorway driving should be a mandatory part of the driving test.

jcwjim: It is a worry that the government will reduce the speed limit to reduce emissions.

I really get frustrated when I hear the government lecturing us on global warming. Then the newspapers and TV bombard us with cherry-picked data. There are two seperate issues: Global Warming, and Greenhouse gases. Global warming simply implies that the world is getting warmer, which is something I agree with as the data backs up this claim. We are releasing greenhouse gases, mainly in the form of carbon dioxide. The carbon cycle removes huge amounts of carbon dioxide, and I simply don't buy the fact that our burning of fossil fuels has affected world temperature too such an extent. To me a far bigger player is the Sun, which has been going through a period of increased intensity for the past 300 years. As once said, 'When the Sun sneezes, the Earth gets a cold'.

That is not to say that greenhouse gases don't affect our climate, there is data that states this is the case but I don't think it's the whole story. It's just this is the only data that is ever reported to Joe Public, and I get angry. Personally I think we should move away from fossil fuels, as they are very dirty and can affect human health. Plus they will most likely run out in our lifetime. But rather than tax everybody, which is what our government seems to want to do, lets give tax breaks to companies that invest in and bring hydrogen fuel to the market. And then tax breaks to people who buy hydrogen fueled cars.

I've gone off on one again haven't I? However if we had Hydrogen fueled MINIs we could drive at 80-90mph without increased carbon emissions And if that stops the government rushing in stupid legislation because everyone has jumped on the carbon emissions band wagon, then I'm all for Hydrogen.

With regard to people going maybe a further 10-20mph over a new higher limit, what if as stated earlier in the replies the law came down very hard on those speeding over the new limits? Or strict variable limits based on the paramaters I mentioned at the start of the poll, which makes the decision of the 'safe' speed to drive at for everyone, including the morons who have no grasp of safe driving speeds?

United Kingdom Male   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 11:59 AM   #27 (permalink)
ButtonIt
Has met Quack Quack Jack
The Disorganiser
 
ButtonIt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Waiting for others
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 15,379
Offline
Send a message via MSN to ButtonIt
I was overtaken by a van yesterday on the M6, trouble was the van was on it's side and sliding up the central barrier

The speed limit is fine as it is.

Think of it this way. Lets say that at the moment most people do 85 in the dry and maybe drop slightly to 65 if it's raining. If we up the speed limit to 100mph then people will be doing 100-105 (people always want a little bit more) in the dry and maybe drop to 80-85 in the wet. Recipe for nastiness if you ask me. People will not drop from 100 to 65 just for a bit of rain.
England Male View ButtonIt's Hyper Blue & Body Color 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 12:17 PM   #28 (permalink)
Capsaisin
Has met Quack Quack Jack
cave capsicum
 
Capsaisin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Crewe
Local Time: 02:59 AM
Posts: 3,364
Offline
Quote: Originally Posted by SC06GVK (original)
its not going to happen so dream on

You are just so right. The political solution - do nothing.

United Kingdom Male View Capsaisin's Chili Red & Black 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 12:26 PM   #29 (permalink)
Kaj
Lazy Student
 
Kaj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oxford
Local Time: 02:59 AM
Posts: 165
Offline
lets be honest its not going to happen. but if it did i think they should make the m6 toll as fast as you can go which it practicaly is anyway and just ban police from it unless there is a acident.

i say it pracitly is since they dont mind mr lambo doing 120 odd but as soon as mr mini comes along doing the speed limit with no front plate after some *****'s nicked it, there more than willing to pull him over and give him a bolocking and a VD slip but they didnt care who nicked it!.
England   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 01:07 PM   #30 (permalink)
AMT
MINI2 Senior
 
AMT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Edinburgh
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 448
Offline
I think the only way we're going to get higher speed limits is via the introduction of flexible limits, for instance 60 in the wet, 80 in the dry etc.

It would be nice to have some more toll-roads with higher limits. The M6 Toll is smooth and very quiet, and easily capable of a higher limit

Scotland View AMT's British Racing Green & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 01:23 PM   #31 (permalink)
Parc77
MINI2 Master
 
Parc77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Yorkshire
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 2,345
Offline
Yep the political situation is madness co2, speed limits, driving test (lack of how to drive), not building more roads, stealth tax, lets all ride a bike to work groups ( 2 day trip to work anyone), its a hobby and a passion for millions driving a car,, as well as an essential tool for work, a sensible solution instead of no brain schemes would be better but all these silly ideas amount to a government that havent got a clue.

United Kingdom Male   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 01:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
ASTON
MINI2 Privilege Member
A mini is a way of life.
 
ASTON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Wales
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 2,675
Offline
Send a message via MSN to ASTON
I think people should learn to drive properly on it first I just hate those middle hoggers . 70mph is to fast it should be drooped to 56mph

Wales Male View ASTON's Pepper White & Black 2nd Gen MINI Cooper Diesel Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 03:28 PM   #33 (permalink)
Olly.
Overboosting.....
 
Olly.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Local Time: 02:59 AM
Posts: 3,458
Offline
Considering how excellent the German roads are perhaps we should take note from them?
United Kingdom Male View Olly.'s Lightning Blue & White 2nd Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6th, 2007, 04:38 PM   #34 (permalink)
JDinho
JCWaiting!
 
JDinho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: W Sussex
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 266
Offline
The Government are more likely to reduce speed limits since they think we are incapable of making reasoned decisions anymore.

I personally wouldn't want it any higher there are too many muppets on the road anyway, safer cars with better breaks can't correct the driving errors of a &%$! behind the wheel. Most of the time its bumper-to-bumper on UK roads, so a higher speed limit prob wouldn't help much.
United Kingdom View JDinho's Hyper Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 8th, 2007, 04:33 PM   #35 (permalink)
manwithnoname
Billionaire
 
manwithnoname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Monaco
Local Time: 03:59 AM
Posts: 124
Offline
The current speed limit is archaic and needs to be brought forward into modern times.

Motorways should have a limit of at least 90 mph.

France Male   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 8th, 2007, 04:37 PM   #36 (permalink)
manwithnoname
Billionaire
 
manwithnoname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Monaco
Local Time: 03:59 AM
Posts: 124
Offline
Quote: Originally Posted by ASTON (original)
I just hate those middle hoggers

People who lane hog should be given a £1,000 fine, have 6 points added to their licence and have their car crushed. Then they won't be doing it again in a hurry.

France Male   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 8th, 2007, 04:50 PM   #37 (permalink)
Lorri
Has met Quack Quack Jack
I can feel it
 
Lorri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Sheffield
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 11,790
Offline
Send a message via MSN to Lorri
Quote: Originally Posted by manwithnoname (original)
The current speed limit is archaic and needs to be brought forward into modern times.

Motorways should have a limit of at least 90 mph.

That's fine in countries where there's much less traffic... there's far too much here

M2CB09 ~ It's a Golden Celebration
England View Lorri's Electric Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 8th, 2007, 05:03 PM   #38 (permalink)
linners2005
MINI2 Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Wakefield
Local Time: 02:59 AM
Posts: 110
Offline
United-Kingdom

As a 19 year old driving a MCS i can say that it should stay at 70mph

At 70mph most people do 80mph and the police aren't bothered (unless they've had a bad day)

Where as if it were to go up then people would think 10mph over the new limit would be acceptable and then more and more people would be speeding.

Just my opinion though, each to their own
United Kingdom Male   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 8th, 2007, 05:34 PM   #39 (permalink)
Benmk
MINI2 Regular
 
Benmk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: London
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 189
Offline
im not sure if it has been mentioned but surely its just as dangerous to snail along on a busy or fast motorway just as it is to exceed the speed limit.

I think 80 would be a really good start on motorways.

When driving in France last summer i noticed the speed limit changes between wet and dry but in addition the roads are smooth and clean and people obey the rules in addition to being curtious to other road users.

It makes driving the motorways smoother and quicker.

In Germany they have no limits on certain motorways but people tend to drive without error - right in the middle of the lane, high concentration, etc etc.

I dont think our authorities can really be pushed for change.

And that goes for rediculous parking restrictions and road taxes (that dont get used to fix the roads) aswell!!

Viper Stripes| DPSM | Recaros | Miltek | Aero | GP Intercooler | JCW R56 Brakes | Alpina Dynamics
United Kingdom Male View Benmk's Hyper Blue & Body Color 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 8th, 2007, 05:40 PM   #40 (permalink)
Fin
Giggity-goo!
 
Fin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Dangling by a thread
Local Time: 01:59 AM
Posts: 2,640
Offline
Send a message via MSN to Fin
As a 19 year old driving a MCS i can say that it should stay at 70mph

After seeing your MINI rallying video, I don't believe you!

United Kingdom Male   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Sponsors

Sponsored Links


Registered members do not see Ads posts, they can also post messages, pictures, and classified adverts.
Register your free account today and become a member of MINI2 - MINI Forum
   
Reply
More is car insurance


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The most fuel-efficient motorway cruising speed for MINIs hyperbluejames General Discussion 18 Jan 24th, 2007 02:05 PM
Speed Limit Cuts burns863 General Discussion 28 Oct 22nd, 2006 08:15 PM
Wind noise and whistling at motorway speed - FIXED!!!!!! Mini Mic Faults & Fixes 12 Feb 27th, 2006 12:42 PM
National Speed Limit Database! snek UK & Ireland Discussion & Event Planning 46 Jul 12th, 2004 09:36 PM