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S33BBY · Jul 5th, 2007, 06:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by baskers (original)

Seb - good reasons too - however my MCS is returning 33mpg - and I drive it quite quickly too! It's a very late supercharged one... so not sure if they made them more fuel effecient? Is the tank bigger on the S too?

That is good! My friend's 2005 S gets shocking consumption...

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Jul 5th, 2007, 06:44 PM

I recently drove my very late supercharged S from Cornwall to Milton Keynes, taking it very easy, but traveling at the legal limit (between 50 and 70mph as appropriate); it returned 40.3 mpg! When I filled up in Milton Keynes the OBC showed a tank range of 449 miles!

I even have the photos to prove it!

Normally it's around 33 mpg average

Just avoid getting caught in slow town traffic; then it's shockingly bad!

Tigger.

Coop2004 · Jul 6th, 2007, 04:04 AM

Tigger, thanks for the thread link. Interesting reading. An education.

Coop2004 · Jul 7th, 2007, 06:37 PM

Just drove my first Cooper S. Now I have to read about it to find out exactly what it was. It was a 2002 Cooper S. Could clearly feel the additional power. If it was a color combo that knocked me out I may have given it more thought. I clearly feel I would be in greater danger of getting speeding tickets in an S. Oh yes and loved the exhaust tone also. So I will keep an eye out for just the right S I guess, in the mean time I'll continue to bond with my Cooper.

lespurgeon · Jul 9th, 2007, 08:31 PM

Does you MC have 5 speed or auto? Spot suspension plus?
You can do quite a bit with a Cooper - but the S gives you more power without thinking about which gear you are in.

I realized this weekend, I always keep the S one gear lower when the A/C is on.

Coop2004 · Jul 9th, 2007, 10:39 PM

My Coop is a 5 speed. Funny you should mention it, I've had the A/C on twice and it felt like it sucked about 25 hp. I was wondering if it was just me. Don't use the A/C unless my wife is with me.

randap · Jul 10th, 2007, 01:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Coop2004 (original)

My Coop is a 5 speed. Funny you should mention it, I've had the A/C on twice and it felt like it sucked about 25 hp. I was wondering if it was just me. Don't use the A/C unless my wife is with me.

Have to admit, in my MC, I've never noticed any real difference with the a/c on or off. So I drive with it on almost all the time.........

justbob · Jul 19th, 2007, 10:44 PM

This is a question that's vexing me, too. My family is now on its third MCS, this one a convertible. We previously had two 2004 MCS, one loaded, one stripped.

In the market for a third car now (my wife always takes the MCSC, it was a Christmas gift for her, I've only driven it a few times), and I'm trying to decide between new or used and Cooper or Cooper S.

Ah. I guess it's time to take a lot of test drives...!

Coop2004 · Jul 20th, 2007, 01:59 AM

I'm keeping my Cooper and gonna be happy with it. Won't be too difficult, I do love the car. Took an hour drive to the closest Mini dealer and did some number crunching. I can't afford to go after a new S so unless I find just the right one used I'm standing pat. A special order S was just delivered to the dealer for someone and we were told it was $41,000.00. Yikes!

lespurgeon · Jul 20th, 2007, 09:54 PM

Well,

The 2002 would be the supercharger one. Changed in 2007 model year. New one probably gets better mpg, but I really like the SC.

I drive a 2004 MCS. I'm keeping it, but if I were to buy new today:
Cooper (not s) soft-top. Get to keep the old bodystyle that way (I was at the dealer yesterday, the new ones are fine, but I like the first-gen better). I've relocated since the S purchase and we drive much less now. Requirements would be manual gearbox and sport suspension + (the extra stifness is wonderful, main thing I noticed between cooper and S on original test drive 4 years ago).

On 33mpg, that is definetly an imperial gallon. I get much closer to 25 to the u.s. gallon, but that is nearly all town driving, and when I do get a bit of open road, I tend to throw it around a bit.

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S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 02:18 AM Posts: 2,886 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by baskers (original) Seb - good reasons too - however my MCS is returning 33mpg - and I drive it quite quickly too! It's a very late supercharged one... so not sure if they made them more fuel effecient? Is the tank bigger on the S too? That is good! My friend's 2005 S gets shocking consumption... JCW Sound Kit \| H/K \| Sat Nav \| SS+ \| Xenons \| 17" Anthracite R90s \| Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s \| ...

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Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 02:18 AM Posts: 4,572 Offline	I recently drove my very late supercharged S from Cornwall to Milton Keynes, taking it very easy, but traveling at the legal limit (between 50 and 70mph as appropriate); it returned 40.3 mpg! When I filled up in Milton Keynes the OBC showed a tank range of 449 miles! I even have the photos to prove it! Normally it's around 33 mpg average Just avoid getting caught in slow town traffic; then it's shockingly bad! Tigger. Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

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Coop2004 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 09:18 PM Posts: 32 Offline	link Tigger, thanks for the thread link. Interesting reading. An education.

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Jul 7th, 2007, 06:37 PM	#24 (permalink)
Coop2004 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 09:18 PM Posts: 32 Offline	Just drove my first Cooper S. Now I have to read about it to find out exactly what it was. It was a 2002 Cooper S. Could clearly feel the additional power. If it was a color combo that knocked me out I may have given it more thought. I clearly feel I would be in greater danger of getting speeding tickets in an S. Oh yes and loved the exhaust tone also. So I will keep an eye out for just the right S I guess, in the mean time I'll continue to bond with my Cooper.

Jul 9th, 2007, 08:31 PM	#25 (permalink)
lespurgeon Petrol or beer? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: HI, USA Local Time: 04:18 PM Posts: 1,116 Offline	Does you MC have 5 speed or auto? Spot suspension plus? You can do quite a bit with a Cooper - but the S gives you more power without thinking about which gear you are in. I realized this weekend, I always keep the S one gear lower when the A/C is on.

Jul 9th, 2007, 10:39 PM	#26 (permalink)
Coop2004 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 09:18 PM Posts: 32 Offline	My Coop is a 5 speed. Funny you should mention it, I've had the A/C on twice and it felt like it sucked about 25 hp. I was wondering if it was just me. Don't use the A/C unless my wife is with me.

Jul 10th, 2007, 01:07 PM	#27 (permalink)
randap Hangin at the Krusty Krab My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bikini Bottom Local Time: 02:18 AM Posts: 860 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Coop2004 (original) My Coop is a 5 speed. Funny you should mention it, I've had the A/C on twice and it felt like it sucked about 25 hp. I was wondering if it was just me. Don't use the A/C unless my wife is with me. Have to admit, in my MC, I've never noticed any real difference with the a/c on or off. So I drive with it on almost all the time.........

Jul 19th, 2007, 10:44 PM	#28 (permalink)
justbob MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2004 Local Time: 09:18 PM Posts: 691 Offline	This is a question that's vexing me, too. My family is now on its third MCS, this one a convertible. We previously had two 2004 MCS, one loaded, one stripped. In the market for a third car now (my wife always takes the MCSC, it was a Christmas gift for her, I've only driven it a few times), and I'm trying to decide between new or used and Cooper or Cooper S. Ah. I guess it's time to take a lot of test drives...!

Jul 20th, 2007, 01:59 AM	#29 (permalink)
Coop2004 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 09:18 PM Posts: 32 Offline	I'm keeping my Cooper and gonna be happy with it. Won't be too difficult, I do love the car. Took an hour drive to the closest Mini dealer and did some number crunching. I can't afford to go after a new S so unless I find just the right one used I'm standing pat. A special order S was just delivered to the dealer for someone and we were told it was $41,000.00. Yikes!

Jul 20th, 2007, 09:54 PM	#30 (permalink)
lespurgeon Petrol or beer? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: HI, USA Local Time: 04:18 PM Posts: 1,116 Offline	Well, The 2002 would be the supercharger one. Changed in 2007 model year. New one probably gets better mpg, but I really like the SC. I drive a 2004 MCS. I'm keeping it, but if I were to buy new today: Cooper (not s) soft-top. Get to keep the old bodystyle that way (I was at the dealer yesterday, the new ones are fine, but I like the first-gen better). I've relocated since the S purchase and we drive much less now. Requirements would be manual gearbox and sport suspension + (the extra stifness is wonderful, main thing I noticed between cooper and S on original test drive 4 years ago). On 33mpg, that is definetly an imperial gallon. I get much closer to 25 to the u.s. gallon, but that is nearly all town driving, and when I do get a bit of open road, I tend to throw it around a bit.

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