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Coop2004 · Jun 29th, 2007, 10:25 PM

I love my new to me 2004 Cooper. It is a blast but the thought of another 50 hp has grabbed me. For those who have owned the Cooper and the Cooper S, what words or thoughts do you have on this?

Paul · Jun 29th, 2007, 10:34 PM

Do it.

But drive the S first, it does "feel" different, and there are those who prefer the Cooper's characteristics.

I enjoy them both, but would chose the S any day.

S33BBY · Jun 29th, 2007, 10:43 PM

I've got a Cooper (with JCW Sound Kit) and absolutely love it. I find the drive very fun. I've driven a Cooper S and I have to say it's also very fun. I won't say it's more fun, but it has the extra power, which just makes it great.

wincakes · Jun 30th, 2007, 10:49 AM

I'm hankering after a Cooper S. I love my Cooper to bits, but need MORE POWER!!!!!! Unfortunately the funds are a bit tight at the mo....will be looking at buying one in the next year tho. The extra insurance is negligable, so I just need to save up for the car!! I NEED A BETTER JOB!!!

MartinSSZ · Jun 30th, 2007, 10:19 PM

Three weeks ago I sold my Cooper and bought a S Works - very different in character!

Obviously the S is very easy to drive quickly because of the extra power, which is more of an effort in the Cooper.. however the Cooper was (well, is!) very rewarding when driven swiftly. Driven smoothly and precisely over a B road or similar then a Cooper is a hell of a lot more fun than a lot of people give it credit for, but the Cooper S is just something else - the power delivery and noise are grin inducing alone, nevermind the handling...!

Coop2004 · Jul 1st, 2007, 07:00 AM

I was afraid of this. Not one reply saying "stick with the Cooper " I knew it was a long shot. I really want the S but I've already gotten attached to my Blue Cooper and I can't convince my wife to dump the SUV. Surely someone can say they have had both and like the Cooper over the S. Anybody, anyone/

Andy P · Jul 1st, 2007, 07:26 AM

Get rid of the SUV and buy the S and become a 2 mini family - we are doing this and will have an S works and a one on the drive

S33BBY · Jul 1st, 2007, 10:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Coop2004 (original)

I was afraid of this. Not one reply saying "stick with the Cooper " I knew it was a long shot. I really want the S but I've already gotten attached to my Blue Cooper and I can't convince my wife to dump the SUV. Surely someone can say they have had both and like the Cooper over the S. Anybody, anyone/

I think that they're very similar, except the S has more power. Of course this changes the character quite a bit, but generally people like power.

Kaine · Jul 1st, 2007, 10:53 AM

we drove all (One, Cooper and S) before opting for the Cooper - of course the S was a hoot to drive, however so was the Cooper - we had a budget to keep to and opted for the extras on a Cooper - dont regret it for a second. Saying this, I'm sure 6 months down the line I'll change my mind

baskers · Jul 2nd, 2007, 07:46 AM

The Cooper is a stunning car, seriously stunning, and I loved my one, however after changing to the S, there is no competition.

Looking back, I think the Coopers are cars that are thrashed more, to get the power out of them, whereas I drive my S far more leisurely, and only unleash the squeeling pig (the supercharger) when it's time for a blast.

Upgrade!

Roadrunner_1 · Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:39 AM

I previously used to own a Mini Cooper. I absolutely loved it to bits. I did a little tuning on it and it was great. However I just felt it lacked the overtaking ability of the S so now i drive a Hartge Cooper S.

If you are after speed then it's definately worth getting an S, otherwise keep the Cooper.

BlackEyedPea · Jul 4th, 2007, 08:51 AM

hmmm....ive been thinking the same thing for a while too......but what keeps me with the coop is the fact that i dont drive it as much. TBH the only time i get to drive it properly is weekends as i take public transport weekdays....so i wouldnt really want to be spending more ££ than i should.

Rosamalosa · Jul 4th, 2007, 12:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Coop2004 (original)

I was afraid of this. Not one reply saying "stick with the Cooper " I knew it was a long shot. I really want the S but I've already gotten attached to my Blue Cooper and I can't convince my wife to dump the SUV. Surely someone can say they have had both and like the Cooper over the S. Anybody, anyone/

I have had similar thoughts about going for an MCS and being very tempted too until I recently had a go in one and have to say that the earth didn't quite move for me (well, not enough to make me run to my local dealers and throw my keys at them!!). Yes it was very quick and loads of fun but also more noisy than my cooper and a harder drive. It's not everyone's cup of tea but for me I love my cooper too much to part with her! Although I am not ruling out that my next MINI will be an S, just not right now

randap · Jul 4th, 2007, 12:33 PM

I'd stick with the Cooper. I find it an enthralling challenge keeping up with the MCS' on runs. The money saved over buying an S can be spent on handling, braking an cosmetic upgrades that make it even more unique, and probably better AtoB than a standard S.

Just MHO.

baskers · Jul 4th, 2007, 01:17 PM

All valid points - botht the Cooper and the S are stunning cars - I really think that both cars are all equal.

S33BBY · Jul 4th, 2007, 06:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by randap (original)

I'd stick with the Cooper. I find it an enthralling challenge keeping up with the MCS' on runs. The money saved over buying an S can be spent on handling, braking an cosmetic upgrades that make it even more unique, and probably better AtoB than a standard S.

These are very good points.

A few reasons why I bought a Cooper over an S were:

cheaper (obviously);
able to get an insurance policy in my own name for sensible money;
I can make upgrades like the JCW Sound Kit without it costing an arm and a leg;
lower cost in fuel.

All the above points could be argued I guess, but these were the reasons for me.

baskers · Jul 5th, 2007, 07:43 AM

Seb - good reasons too - however my MCS is returning 33mpg - and I drive it quite quickly too! It's a very late supercharged one... so not sure if they made them more fuel effecient? Is the tank bigger on the S too?

sanny · Jul 5th, 2007, 02:00 PM

ive got a cooper..but would love an S for the extra power n the better sound

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Jul 5th, 2007, 02:45 PM

I had a much loved '04 Cooper from new and thought very long and hard about buying one of the very, very last new R53 Cooper S's (in the UK) about 6 months ago.

There is a long thread with lots of helpful advice here:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/mini-coop...you-think.html

After 5 months and 7,500 miles in the S I couldn't be happier and am so glad I made the swap.

Tigger.

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Jul 5th, 2007, 02:48 PM

By the way, which Cooper S are you thinking of? New Cooper S with turbocharger, or used / old stock Cooper S with supercharger?

Tigger.

Jun 29th, 2007, 10:25 PM	#1
Coop2004 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 02:12 AM Posts: 32 Offline	Cooper to Cooper S I love my new to me 2004 Cooper. It is a blast but the thought of another 50 hp has grabbed me. For those who have owned the Cooper and the Cooper S, what words or thoughts do you have on this?

Jun 29th, 2007, 10:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 38,595 Offline	Do it. But drive the S first, it does "feel" different, and there are those who prefer the Cooper's characteristics. I enjoy them both, but would chose the S any day. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Jun 29th, 2007, 10:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 2,733 Offline	I've got a Cooper (with JCW Sound Kit) and absolutely love it. I find the drive very fun. I've driven a Cooper S and I have to say it's also very fun. I won't say it's more fun, but it has the extra power, which just makes it great. JCW Sound Kit \| H/K \| Sat Nav \| SS+ \| Xenons \| 17" Anthracite R90s \| Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s \| ...

Jun 30th, 2007, 10:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
wincakes LOONEY!! My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: yorkshire Local Time: 07:12 AM Posts: 2,665 Offline	I'm hankering after a Cooper S. I love my Cooper to bits, but need MORE POWER!!!!!! Unfortunately the funds are a bit tight at the mo....will be looking at buying one in the next year tho. The extra insurance is negligable, so I just need to save up for the car!! I NEED A BETTER JOB!!! ALTHOUGH SHE NEEDS A BIT OF GUIDANCE, LESLEY WILL BE MY BIATCH FOR NOW...!

Jul 1st, 2007, 10:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 2,733 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Coop2004 (original) I was afraid of this. Not one reply saying "stick with the Cooper " I knew it was a long shot. I really want the S but I've already gotten attached to my Blue Cooper and I can't convince my wife to dump the SUV. Surely someone can say they have had both and like the Cooper over the S. Anybody, anyone/ I think that they're very similar, except the S has more power. Of course this changes the character quite a bit, but generally people like power. JCW Sound Kit \| H/K \| Sat Nav \| SS+ \| Xenons \| 17" Anthracite R90s \| Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s \| ...

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Jun 30th, 2007, 10:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
MartinSSZ Yellow and Proud My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Shoreham-by-Sea Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 736 Offline	Three weeks ago I sold my Cooper and bought a S Works - very different in character! Obviously the S is very easy to drive quickly because of the extra power, which is more of an effort in the Cooper.. however the Cooper was (well, is!) very rewarding when driven swiftly. Driven smoothly and precisely over a B road or similar then a Cooper is a hell of a lot more fun than a lot of people give it credit for, but the Cooper S is just something else - the power delivery and noise are grin inducing alone, nevermind the handling...!

Jul 1st, 2007, 07:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
Coop2004 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 02:12 AM Posts: 32 Offline	I was afraid of this. Not one reply saying "stick with the Cooper " I knew it was a long shot. I really want the S but I've already gotten attached to my Blue Cooper and I can't convince my wife to dump the SUV. Surely someone can say they have had both and like the Cooper over the S. Anybody, anyone/

Jul 1st, 2007, 07:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Andy P MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stamford, Lincs Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 1,709 Offline	Get rid of the SUV and buy the S and become a 2 mini family - we are doing this and will have an S works and a one on the drive

Jul 1st, 2007, 10:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
Kaine MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: hills of shropshire Local Time: 07:12 AM Posts: 140 Offline	we drove all (One, Cooper and S) before opting for the Cooper - of course the S was a hoot to drive, however so was the Cooper - we had a budget to keep to and opted for the extras on a Cooper - dont regret it for a second. Saying this, I'm sure 6 months down the line I'll change my mind

Jul 2nd, 2007, 07:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
baskers MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2005 Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 902 Offline	The Cooper is a stunning car, seriously stunning, and I loved my one, however after changing to the S, there is no competition. Looking back, I think the Coopers are cars that are thrashed more, to get the power out of them, whereas I drive my S far more leisurely, and only unleash the squeeling pig (the supercharger) when it's time for a blast. Upgrade!

Jul 2nd, 2007, 08:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
Roadrunner_1 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 63 Offline	I previously used to own a Mini Cooper. I absolutely loved it to bits. I did a little tuning on it and it was great. However I just felt it lacked the overtaking ability of the S so now i drive a Hartge Cooper S. If you are after speed then it's definately worth getting an S, otherwise keep the Cooper.

Jul 4th, 2007, 08:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
BlackEyedPea MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 246 Offline	hmmm....ive been thinking the same thing for a while too......but what keeps me with the coop is the fact that i dont drive it as much. TBH the only time i get to drive it properly is weekends as i take public transport weekdays....so i wouldnt really want to be spending more ££ than i should.

Jul 4th, 2007, 12:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rosamalosa Crazy lady.. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Numpton.. Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 375 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Coop2004 (original) I was afraid of this. Not one reply saying "stick with the Cooper " I knew it was a long shot. I really want the S but I've already gotten attached to my Blue Cooper and I can't convince my wife to dump the SUV. Surely someone can say they have had both and like the Cooper over the S. Anybody, anyone/ I have had similar thoughts about going for an MCS and being very tempted too until I recently had a go in one and have to say that the earth didn't quite move for me (well, not enough to make me run to my local dealers and throw my keys at them!!). Yes it was very quick and loads of fun but also more noisy than my cooper and a harder drive. It's not everyone's cup of tea but for me I love my cooper too much to part with her! Although I am not ruling out that my next MINI will be an S, just not right now Last edited by Rosamalosa : Jul 4th, 2007 at 05:34 PM.

Jul 4th, 2007, 12:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
randap Hangin at the Krusty Krab My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bikini Bottom Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 848 Offline	I'd stick with the Cooper. I find it an enthralling challenge keeping up with the MCS' on runs. The money saved over buying an S can be spent on handling, braking an cosmetic upgrades that make it even more unique, and probably better AtoB than a standard S. Just MHO.

Jul 4th, 2007, 01:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
baskers MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2005 Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 902 Offline	All valid points - botht the Cooper and the S are stunning cars - I really think that both cars are all equal.

Jul 4th, 2007, 06:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 2,733 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by randap (original) I'd stick with the Cooper. I find it an enthralling challenge keeping up with the MCS' on runs. The money saved over buying an S can be spent on handling, braking an cosmetic upgrades that make it even more unique, and probably better AtoB than a standard S. These are very good points. A few reasons why I bought a Cooper over an S were: cheaper (obviously); able to get an insurance policy in my own name for sensible money; I can make upgrades like the JCW Sound Kit without it costing an arm and a leg; lower cost in fuel. All the above points could be argued I guess, but these were the reasons for me. JCW Sound Kit \| H/K \| Sat Nav \| SS+ \| Xenons \| 17" Anthracite R90s \| Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s \| ...

Jul 5th, 2007, 07:43 AM	#17 (permalink)
baskers MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2005 Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 902 Offline	Seb - good reasons too - however my MCS is returning 33mpg - and I drive it quite quickly too! It's a very late supercharged one... so not sure if they made them more fuel effecient? Is the tank bigger on the S too?

Jul 5th, 2007, 02:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
sanny MINI2 Newbie My Classifieds Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 29 Offline	ive got a cooper..but would love an S for the extra power n the better sound

Jul 5th, 2007, 02:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 4,557 Offline	I had a much loved '04 Cooper from new and thought very long and hard about buying one of the very, very last new R53 Cooper S's (in the UK) about 6 months ago. There is a long thread with lots of helpful advice here: http://www.mini2.com/forum/mini-coop...you-think.html After 5 months and 7,500 miles in the S I couldn't be happier and am so glad I made the swap. Tigger. Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

Jul 5th, 2007, 02:48 PM	#20 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 08:12 AM Posts: 4,557 Offline	By the way, which Cooper S are you thinking of? New Cooper S with turbocharger, or used / old stock Cooper S with supercharger? Tigger. Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

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