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mugsy86 · Jan 21st, 2008, 01:06 PM

I understand how to calculate MPG but would like to know when a MPG figure is quoted in the UK, is it using US or UK gallons?

Obvioulsy when I fill up my car in the UK, I'm not sure how many gallons I put in my car but I do know how many litres, to convert the litres to gallons I need to know if the figure quoted uses US or UK gallons?

I reguarly drive between Sheffield and Newcastle and I'm considering buying a Cooper S but I want to get a feel for how much the round journey would cost (145 miles each way).

WRX-FOR-JCW · Jan 21st, 2008, 01:14 PM

I find realistically you get 50 miles for £10 around town which is about 28-29mpg. Motorways id say nearer 31-32mpg. £20ish each way for you.

GarryThomas · Jan 21st, 2008, 01:37 PM

Most Minis have a 50litre tank

1 Uk Gallon is 4..546 litres So It's a 11 Gallons to a tank full

mikbmini · Jan 21st, 2008, 01:44 PM

Not sure if its cos mines not a JCW - only a standard MINI Cooper S, or because I don't drive as hard, but I find I get about 37-40 on a Motorway. I'd say it would take me about 3 quarters of a tank for the round journey you say above, and that would be £35-ish.

I find that around town though I only get about 23-25 to the gallon though (although this varies and for short distances I've recorded as low as 13 mpg).

mugsy86 · Jan 21st, 2008, 02:46 PM

Thanks thats pretty useful... I wanted to be conservative.. So I estimated a 290 mile journey (mainly motorway so the MPG is probably a little low) at 31MPG to cost around £45 thats with petrol priced at £1.04 I currently drive a 1.6 Focus and it probably costs me round £37 depending on how fast I drive.

WRX-FOR-JCW · Jan 21st, 2008, 05:14 PM

290 miles should't cost you more than £40 on a motorway in a cooper S.

Lawrothegreat · Jan 21st, 2008, 07:57 PM

Are you thinking about an older R53 Cooper S, or the newer R56 as there is a huge difference in fuel consumption. In the R56 you can realistically get:

50mpg if you drive gently between 50mph to 60mph on a motorway.

40-45mpg at 70mph.

Around town above 30mpg even pushing the car.

Although I'm also sure you can get less than 20mpg if you try hard enough.

South Shore Lad · Jan 21st, 2008, 09:18 PM

Can the R56 MCS really get 50mpg in good conditions?

In my R56 MC I've had 49mpg at best on a fairly past paced motorway run of 200 miles or so, mind you that was more or less fully loaded (two adults/teenager/luggage/full size spare wheel). A steadier pace and less weight on board would probably have seen 50+. My worst has been 37 mpg. Overall mean for 13 months of ownership (yes, I've been sad enough to work it out!) has been about 43 mpg - mostly on 25 mile round trip commuter runs.

I'd have thought an R56 MCS would be a handful of miles down on these bests/worsts, with the first gen being a further handful down on those.

SSL

Lawrothegreat · Jan 21st, 2008, 11:48 PM

The claimed extra-urban figure for the MCS is now 54.3mpg (UK gallons obviously). I realise you wouldn't be able to achieve this but I have had a reported 51mpg (from the onboard computer) over about 60 miles of flat motorway. I haven't had the chance the verify the accuracy of the onboard computer (they tend to over read by 2-3mpg) but I reckon that I could have driven even more gently on that particular run. The R56 MCS is definitely more economical (only by a couple of mpg) than my R50 MC. I don't know how much the BMW efficient dynamics stuff makes a difference - obviously it does in town driving because the engine switches itself off.

South Shore Lad · Jan 22nd, 2008, 05:01 PM

And it's a good job the MC R56 has such good fuel economy as it gets the most range out of the pathetically small tank (40 litres I think). The R56 MCS has a 50 litre tank though doesn't it?

SSL

S8RAH · Jan 22nd, 2008, 05:58 PM

I recently did a 500 motorway mile round trip in my R56 JCW MCS, obviously sticking to the speed limit (well mostly) and got 44mpg. I noticed that MPG overall is about -10% since JCW kit went on so I reckon, with a bit of sensible driving, 50mpg in an R56 is attainable.

jlove · Jan 23rd, 2008, 05:32 PM

My R56 MCS has averaged 36.35mpg since I've had it; now with 11,000 miles on the clock. I never do town work, though.

Jan 21st, 2008, 01:06 PM	#1
mugsy86 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 7 Offline	MPG Question? I understand how to calculate MPG but would like to know when a MPG figure is quoted in the UK, is it using US or UK gallons? Obvioulsy when I fill up my car in the UK, I'm not sure how many gallons I put in my car but I do know how many litres, to convert the litres to gallons I need to know if the figure quoted uses US or UK gallons? I reguarly drive between Sheffield and Newcastle and I'm considering buying a Cooper S but I want to get a feel for how much the round journey would cost (145 miles each way).

Jan 21st, 2008, 01:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
GarryThomas MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2006 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 68 Offline	50 Litre Tank Most Minis have a 50litre tank 1 Uk Gallon is 4..546 litres So It's a 11 Gallons to a tank full

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Jan 21st, 2008, 01:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
WRX-FOR-JCW MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Yorkshire Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 27 Offline	I find realistically you get 50 miles for £10 around town which is about 28-29mpg. Motorways id say nearer 31-32mpg. £20ish each way for you.

Jan 21st, 2008, 01:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
mikbmini No MINI no more :( My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tunbridge Wells Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 245 Offline	Not sure if its cos mines not a JCW - only a standard MINI Cooper S, or because I don't drive as hard, but I find I get about 37-40 on a Motorway. I'd say it would take me about 3 quarters of a tank for the round journey you say above, and that would be £35-ish. I find that around town though I only get about 23-25 to the gallon though (although this varies and for short distances I've recorded as low as 13 mpg).

Jan 21st, 2008, 02:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
mugsy86 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 7 Offline	Thanks thats pretty useful... I wanted to be conservative.. So I estimated a 290 mile journey (mainly motorway so the MPG is probably a little low) at 31MPG to cost around £45 thats with petrol priced at £1.04 I currently drive a 1.6 Focus and it probably costs me round £37 depending on how fast I drive.

Jan 21st, 2008, 05:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
WRX-FOR-JCW MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Yorkshire Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 27 Offline	290 miles should't cost you more than £40 on a motorway in a cooper S.

Jan 21st, 2008, 07:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lawrothegreat Mini Design Philosopher Join Date: May 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 832 Offline	Are you thinking about an older R53 Cooper S, or the newer R56 as there is a huge difference in fuel consumption. In the R56 you can realistically get: 50mpg if you drive gently between 50mph to 60mph on a motorway. 40-45mpg at 70mph. Around town above 30mpg even pushing the car. Although I'm also sure you can get less than 20mpg if you try hard enough.

Jan 21st, 2008, 09:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
South Shore Lad MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lancashire Seaside Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 358 Offline	Can the R56 MCS really get 50mpg in good conditions? In my R56 MC I've had 49mpg at best on a fairly past paced motorway run of 200 miles or so, mind you that was more or less fully loaded (two adults/teenager/luggage/full size spare wheel). A steadier pace and less weight on board would probably have seen 50+. My worst has been 37 mpg. Overall mean for 13 months of ownership (yes, I've been sad enough to work it out!) has been about 43 mpg - mostly on 25 mile round trip commuter runs. I'd have thought an R56 MCS would be a handful of miles down on these bests/worsts, with the first gen being a further handful down on those. SSL

Jan 21st, 2008, 11:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lawrothegreat Mini Design Philosopher Join Date: May 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 832 Offline	The claimed extra-urban figure for the MCS is now 54.3mpg (UK gallons obviously). I realise you wouldn't be able to achieve this but I have had a reported 51mpg (from the onboard computer) over about 60 miles of flat motorway. I haven't had the chance the verify the accuracy of the onboard computer (they tend to over read by 2-3mpg) but I reckon that I could have driven even more gently on that particular run. The R56 MCS is definitely more economical (only by a couple of mpg) than my R50 MC. I don't know how much the BMW efficient dynamics stuff makes a difference - obviously it does in town driving because the engine switches itself off.

Jan 22nd, 2008, 05:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
South Shore Lad MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lancashire Seaside Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 358 Offline	And it's a good job the MC R56 has such good fuel economy as it gets the most range out of the pathetically small tank (40 litres I think). The R56 MCS has a 50 litre tank though doesn't it? SSL

Jan 22nd, 2008, 05:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
S8RAH Away with the Fairies Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Blackburn Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 323 Offline	I recently did a 500 motorway mile round trip in my R56 JCW MCS, obviously sticking to the speed limit (well mostly) and got 44mpg. I noticed that MPG overall is about -10% since JCW kit went on so I reckon, with a bit of sensible driving, 50mpg in an R56 is attainable.

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Jan 23rd, 2008, 05:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
jlove 3 JWL Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Salisbury Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 60 Offline	My R56 MCS has averaged 36.35mpg since I've had it; now with 11,000 miles on the clock. I never do town work, though.