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mab01uk · Jan 25th, 2008, 07:27 PM

For your information only ! This was posted today in a Mercedes forum which I also use.
Quote:-
"I have inside information that the speed cameras on the M25 (J10-15) are being upgraded this weekend from analogue to digital. This basically means that the "Trigger Point" has decreased from 93 MPH to 80 MPH. Hope this helps prevent some unwanted points!"

If true I would think the trigger point is lower because they will no longer run out of film ! I did also read recently that all film Gatso cameras are gradually being upgraded internally to digital so will look the same but no longer ever run out of film.

Fin · Jan 25th, 2008, 07:29 PM

Are they going to reduce the speed limits from 90mph on the M25 aswell?

Otherwise I don't see how this will work...

stuvoi · Jan 25th, 2008, 07:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Fin (original)

Are they going to reduce the speed limits from 90mph on the M25 aswell?

Otherwise I don't see how this will work...

And here was me thinking the speed limit was 70

neilobe · Jan 25th, 2008, 08:48 PM

Do these only trigger when variable speed limits are on?

GTT 280 · Jan 25th, 2008, 09:43 PM

they have 90mph speed limits ???????????

Gav008 · Jan 25th, 2008, 10:09 PM

The speed limit on a motorway is 70mph however speed camera are set to trigger wen you are 10% over the limit + 2mph ie 79mph which is rounded to 80 the reason being they have to allow for various tire pressures and road conditions which could alter the reading. Sometimes they set the trigger even higher ie 90mph as they only want to catch those which are breaking the law by 20% or more in which case they can take them to court and prosecute - this is my understanding anyway from a reliable source- hope this helps

Fin · Jan 25th, 2008, 10:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by stuvoi (original)

And here was me thinking the speed limit was 70

Quote: Originally Posted by Fin (original)

Are they going to reduce the speed limits from 90mph on the M25 aswell?

Otherwise I don't see how this will work...

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)

they have 90mph speed limits ???????????

I was being facetious

GTT 280 · Jan 26th, 2008, 11:10 AM

damn, i was going to move house !

chewystuey · Jan 27th, 2008, 11:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by mab01uk (original)

For your information only ! This was posted today in a Mercedes forum which I also use.
Quote:-
"I have inside information that the speed cameras on the M25 (J10-15) are being upgraded this weekend from analogue to digital. This basically means that the "Trigger Point" has decreased from 93 MPH to 80 MPH. Hope this helps prevent some unwanted points!".

Hmmm the GATSO's stop at Junc13 - they never put any cameras back on the stretch they enlarged a couple of years ago.

Martin F · Jan 27th, 2008, 08:10 PM

My experience is that you would need to do more than 80mph to get flashed

Shaun · Jan 27th, 2008, 08:16 PM

From my experience is that possible on the M25?

OneDriver · Jan 28th, 2008, 03:13 PM

Shaun - Very Good point! haha

Snowie · Feb 6th, 2008, 03:42 PM

The M25 is not always slow - believe it or not there are times when if you are not carefull you can exceed the speed limit.

The new digital system goes live on 15th Feb

Take it easy

Alan

MINI-Morgan · Feb 6th, 2008, 06:42 PM

Average speed now too?

Shaun · Feb 8th, 2008, 02:54 PM

Wow I was on the M42 last night leaving Spring Fair at the NEC it was like a light show all the flashes going off in the 40 zone round the NEC.

minicabrio · Feb 8th, 2008, 03:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Average speed now too?

Not average speed.... but this concerns the variable speed section between the A3 junction and the M40 junction round the western edge of the M25 that goes past Heathrow.

The speed limit is 70mph - due to the old cameras being film based, the trigger point for them was set at 90 'odd' mph - however the new digital cameras can take pictures all day long and automatically wire the info back to HQ to issue your fine, so the trigger point has been cut to 80mph.

There are overhead gantries in the variable zone, during busy periods they display either 60mph, 50mph or even 40mph - these are the speed you must obey - the new cameras will automatically lower their trigger point according to the speed limit displayed on the gantry.

To avoid a fine, set a suitable speed, and flick on the cruise

Snowie · Feb 8th, 2008, 03:14 PM

Watch out for the ones on the M3 at the M25 Junction 50MPH and AVERAGE speed whilst they are playing with the junction to see how they can aid the traffic flow heading South bound

Jan 25th, 2008, 07:27 PM	#1
mab01uk MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 763 Offline	M25 Speed Cameras go digital? For your information only ! This was posted today in a Mercedes forum which I also use. Quote:- "I have inside information that the speed cameras on the M25 (J10-15) are being upgraded this weekend from analogue to digital. This basically means that the "Trigger Point" has decreased from 93 MPH to 80 MPH. Hope this helps prevent some unwanted points!" If true I would think the trigger point is lower because they will no longer run out of film ! I did also read recently that all film Gatso cameras are gradually being upgraded internally to digital so will look the same but no longer ever run out of film.

Jan 25th, 2008, 09:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
GTT 280 The Power Cube My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 2,348 Offline	they have 90mph speed limits ??????????? Too many mods to list, PM me if the cat needs killing...

Jan 26th, 2008, 11:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
GTT 280 The Power Cube My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 2,348 Offline	damn, i was going to move house ! Too many mods to list, PM me if the cat needs killing...

Jan 27th, 2008, 08:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Shaun Mr Big Stuff Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Oldham Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 3,310 Offline	From my experience is that possible on the M25? http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun-g/

Feb 6th, 2008, 03:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
Snowie MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Modena IT /Camberley Local Time: 02:27 AM Posts: 1,722 Offline	New cameras live from 15th February The M25 is not always slow - believe it or not there are times when if you are not carefull you can exceed the speed limit. The new digital system goes live on 15th Feb Take it easy Alan In Italy

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Jan 25th, 2008, 07:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Fin Giggity-goo! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dangling by a thread Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 2,640 Offline	Are they going to reduce the speed limits from 90mph on the M25 aswell? Otherwise I don't see how this will work...

Jan 25th, 2008, 07:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
stuvoi MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2004 Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 387 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Fin (original) Are they going to reduce the speed limits from 90mph on the M25 aswell? Otherwise I don't see how this will work... And here was me thinking the speed limit was 70

Jan 25th, 2008, 08:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
neilobe MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Herts Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 480 Offline	Do these only trigger when variable speed limits are on?

Jan 25th, 2008, 10:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gav008 MINI2 Youngster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northern Ireland Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 49 Offline	The speed limit on a motorway is 70mph however speed camera are set to trigger wen you are 10% over the limit + 2mph ie 79mph which is rounded to 80 the reason being they have to allow for various tire pressures and road conditions which could alter the reading. Sometimes they set the trigger even higher ie 90mph as they only want to catch those which are breaking the law by 20% or more in which case they can take them to court and prosecute - this is my understanding anyway from a reliable source- hope this helps

Jan 25th, 2008, 10:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
Fin Giggity-goo! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dangling by a thread Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 2,640 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by stuvoi (original) And here was me thinking the speed limit was 70 Quote: Originally Posted by Fin (original) Are they going to reduce the speed limits from 90mph on the M25 aswell? Otherwise I don't see how this will work... Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original) they have 90mph speed limits ??????????? I was being facetious

Jan 27th, 2008, 11:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
chewystuey MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 14 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mab01uk (original) For your information only ! This was posted today in a Mercedes forum which I also use. Quote:- "I have inside information that the speed cameras on the M25 (J10-15) are being upgraded this weekend from analogue to digital. This basically means that the "Trigger Point" has decreased from 93 MPH to 80 MPH. Hope this helps prevent some unwanted points!". Hmmm the GATSO's stop at Junc13 - they never put any cameras back on the stretch they enlarged a couple of years ago.

Jan 27th, 2008, 08:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Martin F Making it add up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sussex Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 651 Offline	My experience is that you would need to do more than 80mph to get flashed

Jan 28th, 2008, 03:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
OneDriver It's only a one... Honest Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol & Cheshire Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 177 Offline	Shaun - Very Good point! haha

Feb 6th, 2008, 06:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Average speed now too? One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Feb 8th, 2008, 02:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
Shaun Mr Big Stuff Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Oldham Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 3,310 Offline	Wow I was on the M42 last night leaving Spring Fair at the NEC it was like a light show all the flashes going off in the 40 zone round the NEC. http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaun-g/

Feb 8th, 2008, 03:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
minicabrio Sing-a-long MINIer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 16,000 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original) Average speed now too? Not average speed.... but this concerns the variable speed section between the A3 junction and the M40 junction round the western edge of the M25 that goes past Heathrow. The speed limit is 70mph - due to the old cameras being film based, the trigger point for them was set at 90 'odd' mph - however the new digital cameras can take pictures all day long and automatically wire the info back to HQ to issue your fine, so the trigger point has been cut to 80mph. There are overhead gantries in the variable zone, during busy periods they display either 60mph, 50mph or even 40mph - these are the speed you must obey - the new cameras will automatically lower their trigger point according to the speed limit displayed on the gantry. To avoid a fine, set a suitable speed, and flick on the cruise

Feb 8th, 2008, 03:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
Snowie MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Modena IT /Camberley Local Time: 02:27 AM Posts: 1,722 Offline	Watch out for the ones on the M3 at the M25 Junction 50MPH and AVERAGE speed whilst they are playing with the junction to see how they can aid the traffic flow heading South bound In Italy

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