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The Red Baron · Jun 8th, 2008, 09:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original)

How did you find out? I meant if I ordered a new car, I wouldn't keep it secret. Has she posted a response on a page with the information on - please PM me - she'd never know that way!

I'm getting a new car but haven't posted it anywhere!

M.O.S · Jun 8th, 2008, 09:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 (original)

Do you not think people can get into serious trouble in a car with 100bhp? ANy car can be driven beyond it or its drivers limits.

Oh yes, I understand that, but to get a mini one for instance to anything above 70 isn't the easiest of tasks. Yes they'll do it, but with a cooper S, you can get in serious trouble. Lower power cars are less of a risk than high powered ones. People don't have the ability to handle a lot of power straight away - it comes with time and people aren't mature enough - 17/18yr olds think they are invincible. Limiting the power limits the damage that they can do. Still, it would make incidents like this less likely.

Most cars have 100bhp or thereabouts. What do you suggest to stop accidents like this? Croatia (I think its Croatia) etc do this, and it works.

M.O.S · Jun 8th, 2008, 09:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by chrisandjax (original)

I'm getting a new car but haven't posted it anywhere!

Well you have now, so go on, what is it?

The Red Baron · Jun 9th, 2008, 06:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original)

Well you have now, so go on, what is it?

Ask Jo she knows!

M.O.S · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by chrisandjax (original)

Ask Jo she knows!

And she won't tell me - WHY??? She hasn't bought a car which isn't a mini has she?

Please PM me!!!

mister.t · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original)

17/18yr olds think they are invincible.

Not true

People thought that I would drive like a maniac as I used to race when I was younger, but I drive well within the limits on the roads. I know the dangers - The fact of the matter is there are other road users, and other innocent parties on the road, and I'm not going to risk mine, and more importantly their lives because I want to thrash around. I'm all for a spirited drive when I know it's 100% safe on an open and quiet road. Why risk other parties on the road

Ollie '17 year old' Tebbutt

M.O.S · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mister.t (original)

Not true

People thought that I would drive like a maniac as I used to race when I was younger, but I drive well within the limits on the roads. I know the dangers - The fact of the matter is there are other road users, and other innocent parties on the road, and I'm not going to risk mine, and more importantly their lives because I want to thrash around. I'm all for a spirited drive when I know it's 100% safe on an open and quiet road. Why risk other parties on the road

Ollie '17 year old' Tebbutt

I was just generalising. I'm sure that like me you aren't an idiot - there are sooo many though - thats why car insurance is so expensive. Don't worry - I understand most with minis as their first car tend to be safer as they wouldn't want to write off / crash such a nice car.

Sorry if I offended you - I was merely reffering to the idiot who crashed his s at 95mph at 17 yrs old.

Damo · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:07 PM

I've said this before...

...old people who think they are the perfect drivers are often worse than new drivers as they don't realise they driving like idiots

Lost count of the number of old people who have cut across me on roundabouts near where I live. One a week on average because they take "the racing line"

Last old person nearly crashed when I beeped my horn

mister.t · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original)

I was just generalising. I'm sure that like me you aren't an idiot - there are sooo many though - thats why car insurance is so expensive. Don't worry - I understand most with minis as their first car tend to be safer as they wouldn't want to write off / crash such a nice car.

Sorry if I offended you - I was merely reffering to the idiot who crashed his s at 95mph at 17 yrs old.

I actually have a Fiesta

MINI soon though...

Their insurance deserves to rocket through the roof after an accident like that, especially at that speed - And in those conditions

Asking for trouble.

M.O.S · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mister.t (original)

I actually have a Fiesta

MINI soon though...

Their insurance deserves to rocket through the roof after an accident like that, especially at that speed - And in those conditions

Asking for trouble.

Tell me about it, but the thing is we all have to pay the extra at first because of these mindless t***s, even though he may regret it, he must have realised that what he was doing was quite simply dangerous, and Im sure his insurance will rocket. Still, it's no consolation to new drivers like us who have to pay ridiculous amounts to insure their cars!

I hate these people. Why can't they prove a point by being safe?

mister.t · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original)

Tell me about it, but the thing is we all have to pay the extra at first because of these mindless t***s, even though he may regret it, he must have realised that what he was doing was quite simply dangerous, and Im sure his insurance will rocket. Still, it's no consolation to new drivers like us who have to pay ridiculous amounts to insure their cars!

I hate these people. Why can't they prove a point by being safe?

Exactly!! Drives me up the darn wall!! As if premiums aren't high enough as it is

If he'd killed/injured somebody - That's when it gets scary

Then the young sensible motorist really gets stung

Darthbladerni · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:19 PM

I have a Mini one myself and it is my first car.

Alot of people when they pass think they are invincible it is true, but all it takes is one thing to scare them stupid when driving and normally they will wise up.
I hate that all young drivers are given a bad name because of some idiots.

It is all about knowing your own limits. I am open to a spirited drive of course but only on empty roads occasionally, damn petrol prices arent allowing for it much anymore.

I learned to drive in a 2.5l BMW in between lessons etc before the mini was purchased so maybe that is why i was wiser on the road

I want a cooper s soon though

M.O.S · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original)

I've said this before...

...old people who think they are the perfect drivers are often worse than new drivers as they don't realise they driving like idiots

Lost count of the number of old people who have cut across me on roundabouts near where I live. One a week on average because they take "the racing line"

Last old person nearly crashed when I beeped my horn

I know, and its their attitude thats at fault. Things like ive been driving for 30 yrs, i don't need to concentrate on the road - I can do my makeup, shave, read a map etc... Its disgusting when you see some of the things that they get stopped for!

M.O.S · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Darthbladerni (original)

I have a Mini one myself and it is my first car.

Alot of people when they pass think they are invincible it is true, but all it takes is one thing to scare them stupid when driving and normally they will wise up.
I hate that all young drivers are given a bad name because of some idiots.

It is all about knowing your own limits. I am open to a spirited drive of course but only on empty roads occasionally, damn petrol prices arent allowing for it much anymore.

I learned to drive in a 2.5l BMW in between lessons etc before the mini was purchased so maybe that is why i was wiser on the road

I want a cooper s soon though

I'd love a cooper s - especially a checkmate, but I'm not sure I'll be able to afford the insurance for a long time. Still, I can hope!

Posts001 · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mister.t (original)

Not true

People thought that I would drive like a maniac as I used to race when I was younger, but I drive well within the limits on the roads. I know the dangers - The fact of the matter is there are other road users, and other innocent parties on the road, and I'm not going to risk mine, and more importantly their lives because I want to thrash around. I'm all for a spirited drive when I know it's 100% safe on an open and quiet road. Why risk other parties on the road

Ollie '17 year old' Tebbutt

Well said Ollie

I'm 19 and have a Cooper S, and get a few comments about it

I don't speed but I have fun within the limits and most importantly am careful of other road users

M.O.S · Jun 9th, 2008, 07:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Posts001 (original)

Well said Ollie

I'm 19 and have a Cooper S, and get a few comments about it

I don't speed but I have fun within the limits and most importantly am careful of other road users

How much is your insurance?

It must be literally thousands!

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much power you have - 50bhp or 500, a car is still a lethal weapon. Its not the quantity of power, its how safely you use it.

Still, we young drivers always get persecuted with high insurance prices and get frowned upon for having anything with an engine bigger than that of a smart car!

Posts001 · Jun 9th, 2008, 08:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original)

How much is your insurance?

It must be literally thousands!

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much power you have - 50bhp or 500, a car is still a lethal weapon. Its not the quantity of power, its how safely you use it.

Still, we young drivers always get persecuted with high insurance prices and get frowned upon for having anything with an engine bigger than that of a smart car!

The insurance was just over a thousand which wasn't to bad.
Excatly right there but why can't others see that

I know it's so true- a few of my teachers at college have made some remarks

But then I questioned why I shouldn't have one and they didn't really know how to react

Darthbladerni · Jun 9th, 2008, 08:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original)

I'd love a cooper s - especially a checkmate, but I'm not sure I'll be able to afford the insurance for a long time. Still, I can hope!

Im almost 20 myself. Im hoping that I can buy a cooper s maybe two or three years into University . By then i will be 22/23 and hopefully the insurance will have gone down alot

M.O.S · Jun 9th, 2008, 08:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Posts001 (original)

The insurance was just over a thousand which wasn't to bad.
Excatly right there but why can't others see that

I know it's so true- a few of my teachers at college have made some remarks

But then I questioned why I shouldn't have one and they didn't really know how to react

My teachers just say nice car - you're lucky aren't you! When I explain the advantages (£0 maintenance and low depreciation) they soon understand. Still, as you say, why shouldn't we drive Minis?

M.O.S · Jun 9th, 2008, 08:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Darthbladerni (original)

Im almost 20 myself. Im hoping that I can buy a cooper s maybe two or three years into University . By then i will be 22/23 and hopefully the insurance will have gone down alot

Thanks - let me know! Need to save a lot by the sounds of things!

Jun 8th, 2008, 09:47 PM	#101
The Red Baron Oh good grief! My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Legoland Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 5,241 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original) How did you find out? I meant if I ordered a new car, I wouldn't keep it secret. Has she posted a response on a page with the information on - please PM me - she'd never know that way! I'm getting a new car but haven't posted it anywhere! 20 Oct to 1 Nov follow the job and make a donation www.miniadventureworld.com

Jun 9th, 2008, 06:45 PM	#104 (permalink)
The Red Baron Oh good grief! My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Legoland Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 5,241 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original) Well you have now, so go on, what is it? Ask Jo she knows! 20 Oct to 1 Nov follow the job and make a donation www.miniadventureworld.com

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:51 PM	#115 (permalink)
Posts001 Wooohooooooooo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Where ever I land Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 3,425 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mister.t (original) Not true People thought that I would drive like a maniac as I used to race when I was younger, but I drive well within the limits on the roads. I know the dangers - The fact of the matter is there are other road users, and other innocent parties on the road, and I'm not going to risk mine, and more importantly their lives because I want to thrash around. I'm all for a spirited drive when I know it's 100% safe on an open and quiet road. Why risk other parties on the road Ollie '17 year old' Tebbutt Well said Ollie I'm 19 and have a Cooper S, and get a few comments about it I don't speed but I have fun within the limits and most importantly am careful of other road users What Should I Get Next

Jun 9th, 2008, 08:05 PM	#117 (permalink)
Posts001 Wooohooooooooo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Where ever I land Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 3,425 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original) How much is your insurance? It must be literally thousands! At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much power you have - 50bhp or 500, a car is still a lethal weapon. Its not the quantity of power, its how safely you use it. Still, we young drivers always get persecuted with high insurance prices and get frowned upon for having anything with an engine bigger than that of a smart car! The insurance was just over a thousand which wasn't to bad. Excatly right there but why can't others see that I know it's so true- a few of my teachers at college have made some remarks But then I questioned why I shouldn't have one and they didn't really know how to react What Should I Get Next

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Jun 8th, 2008, 09:48 PM	#102 (permalink)
M.O.S MINI One Seven Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 1,981 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 (original) Do you not think people can get into serious trouble in a car with 100bhp? ANy car can be driven beyond it or its drivers limits. Oh yes, I understand that, but to get a mini one for instance to anything above 70 isn't the easiest of tasks. Yes they'll do it, but with a cooper S, you can get in serious trouble. Lower power cars are less of a risk than high powered ones. People don't have the ability to handle a lot of power straight away - it comes with time and people aren't mature enough - 17/18yr olds think they are invincible. Limiting the power limits the damage that they can do. Still, it would make incidents like this less likely. Most cars have 100bhp or thereabouts. What do you suggest to stop accidents like this? Croatia (I think its Croatia) etc do this, and it works.

Jun 8th, 2008, 09:50 PM	#103 (permalink)
M.O.S MINI One Seven Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 1,981 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by chrisandjax (original) I'm getting a new car but haven't posted it anywhere! Well you have now, so go on, what is it?

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:00 PM	#105 (permalink)
M.O.S MINI One Seven Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 1,981 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by chrisandjax (original) Ask Jo she knows! And she won't tell me - WHY??? She hasn't bought a car which isn't a mini has she? Please PM me!!!

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:01 PM	#106 (permalink)
mister.t One Life, Live It!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nowhere exciting Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 6,236 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original) 17/18yr olds think they are invincible. Not true People thought that I would drive like a maniac as I used to race when I was younger, but I drive well within the limits on the roads. I know the dangers - The fact of the matter is there are other road users, and other innocent parties on the road, and I'm not going to risk mine, and more importantly their lives because I want to thrash around. I'm all for a spirited drive when I know it's 100% safe on an open and quiet road. Why risk other parties on the road Ollie '17 year old' Tebbutt

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:04 PM	#107 (permalink)
M.O.S MINI One Seven Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 1,981 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mister.t (original) Not true People thought that I would drive like a maniac as I used to race when I was younger, but I drive well within the limits on the roads. I know the dangers - The fact of the matter is there are other road users, and other innocent parties on the road, and I'm not going to risk mine, and more importantly their lives because I want to thrash around. I'm all for a spirited drive when I know it's 100% safe on an open and quiet road. Why risk other parties on the road Ollie '17 year old' Tebbutt I was just generalising. I'm sure that like me you aren't an idiot - there are sooo many though - thats why car insurance is so expensive. Don't worry - I understand most with minis as their first car tend to be safer as they wouldn't want to write off / crash such a nice car. Sorry if I offended you - I was merely reffering to the idiot who crashed his s at 95mph at 17 yrs old.

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:07 PM	#108 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 10,526 Offline	I've said this before... ...old people who think they are the perfect drivers are often worse than new drivers as they don't realise they driving like idiots Lost count of the number of old people who have cut across me on roundabouts near where I live. One a week on average because they take "the racing line" Last old person nearly crashed when I beeped my horn

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:09 PM	#109 (permalink)
mister.t One Life, Live It!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nowhere exciting Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 6,236 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original) I was just generalising. I'm sure that like me you aren't an idiot - there are sooo many though - thats why car insurance is so expensive. Don't worry - I understand most with minis as their first car tend to be safer as they wouldn't want to write off / crash such a nice car. Sorry if I offended you - I was merely reffering to the idiot who crashed his s at 95mph at 17 yrs old. I actually have a Fiesta MINI soon though... Their insurance deserves to rocket through the roof after an accident like that, especially at that speed - And in those conditions Asking for trouble.

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:12 PM	#110 (permalink)
M.O.S MINI One Seven Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 1,981 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mister.t (original) I actually have a Fiesta MINI soon though... Their insurance deserves to rocket through the roof after an accident like that, especially at that speed - And in those conditions Asking for trouble. Tell me about it, but the thing is we all have to pay the extra at first because of these mindless t***s, even though he may regret it, he must have realised that what he was doing was quite simply dangerous, and Im sure his insurance will rocket. Still, it's no consolation to new drivers like us who have to pay ridiculous amounts to insure their cars! I hate these people. Why can't they prove a point by being safe?

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:16 PM	#111 (permalink)
mister.t One Life, Live It!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nowhere exciting Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 6,236 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original) Tell me about it, but the thing is we all have to pay the extra at first because of these mindless t***s, even though he may regret it, he must have realised that what he was doing was quite simply dangerous, and Im sure his insurance will rocket. Still, it's no consolation to new drivers like us who have to pay ridiculous amounts to insure their cars! I hate these people. Why can't they prove a point by being safe? Exactly!! Drives me up the darn wall!! As if premiums aren't high enough as it is If he'd killed/injured somebody - That's when it gets scary Then the young sensible motorist really gets stung

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:19 PM	#112 (permalink)
Darthbladerni Mini Youngster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 2,268 Offline	I have a Mini one myself and it is my first car. Alot of people when they pass think they are invincible it is true, but all it takes is one thing to scare them stupid when driving and normally they will wise up. I hate that all young drivers are given a bad name because of some idiots. It is all about knowing your own limits. I am open to a spirited drive of course but only on empty roads occasionally, damn petrol prices arent allowing for it much anymore. I learned to drive in a 2.5l BMW in between lessons etc before the mini was purchased so maybe that is why i was wiser on the road I want a cooper s soon though

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:42 PM	#113 (permalink)
M.O.S MINI One Seven Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 1,981 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original) I've said this before... ...old people who think they are the perfect drivers are often worse than new drivers as they don't realise they driving like idiots Lost count of the number of old people who have cut across me on roundabouts near where I live. One a week on average because they take "the racing line" Last old person nearly crashed when I beeped my horn I know, and its their attitude thats at fault. Things like ive been driving for 30 yrs, i don't need to concentrate on the road - I can do my makeup, shave, read a map etc... Its disgusting when you see some of the things that they get stopped for!

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:44 PM	#114 (permalink)
M.O.S MINI One Seven Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 1,981 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Darthbladerni (original) I have a Mini one myself and it is my first car. Alot of people when they pass think they are invincible it is true, but all it takes is one thing to scare them stupid when driving and normally they will wise up. I hate that all young drivers are given a bad name because of some idiots. It is all about knowing your own limits. I am open to a spirited drive of course but only on empty roads occasionally, damn petrol prices arent allowing for it much anymore. I learned to drive in a 2.5l BMW in between lessons etc before the mini was purchased so maybe that is why i was wiser on the road I want a cooper s soon though I'd love a cooper s - especially a checkmate, but I'm not sure I'll be able to afford the insurance for a long time. Still, I can hope!

Jun 9th, 2008, 07:57 PM	#116 (permalink)
M.O.S MINI One Seven Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 1,981 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Posts001 (original) Well said Ollie I'm 19 and have a Cooper S, and get a few comments about it I don't speed but I have fun within the limits and most importantly am careful of other road users How much is your insurance? It must be literally thousands! At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much power you have - 50bhp or 500, a car is still a lethal weapon. Its not the quantity of power, its how safely you use it. Still, we young drivers always get persecuted with high insurance prices and get frowned upon for having anything with an engine bigger than that of a smart car!

Jun 9th, 2008, 08:19 PM	#118 (permalink)
Darthbladerni Mini Youngster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 2,268 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by M.O.S (original) I'd love a cooper s - especially a checkmate, but I'm not sure I'll be able to afford the insurance for a long time. Still, I can hope! Im almost 20 myself. Im hoping that I can buy a cooper s maybe two or three years into University . By then i will be 22/23 and hopefully the insurance will have gone down alot

Jun 9th, 2008, 08:22 PM	#119 (permalink)
M.O.S MINI One Seven Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 1,981 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Posts001 (original) The insurance was just over a thousand which wasn't to bad. Excatly right there but why can't others see that I know it's so true- a few of my teachers at college have made some remarks But then I questioned why I shouldn't have one and they didn't really know how to react My teachers just say nice car - you're lucky aren't you! When I explain the advantages (£0 maintenance and low depreciation) they soon understand. Still, as you say, why shouldn't we drive Minis?

Jun 9th, 2008, 08:23 PM	#120 (permalink)
M.O.S MINI One Seven Join Date: Jun 2008 Local Time: 01:22 AM Posts: 1,981 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Darthbladerni (original) Im almost 20 myself. Im hoping that I can buy a cooper s maybe two or three years into University . By then i will be 22/23 and hopefully the insurance will have gone down alot Thanks - let me know! Need to save a lot by the sounds of things!