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arabinow · Sep 17th, 2002, 02:01 PM

Of all the new cars coming to market I would say 80% of them would have a little flashing led for anti theft purposes.. whether or not you had an alarm?

Why is there no such thing on the mini!!?? there is plenty of room for one?

Adam

monsta · Sep 17th, 2002, 02:03 PM

Yeah, that annoyed me too.

If you don't have auto aircon there is a perfect place for it right in the middle of the dash near the screen.

I fitted one myself, looks like OEM fitment

monsta · Sep 17th, 2002, 02:05 PM

In front of my air freshener

arabinow · Sep 17th, 2002, 02:21 PM

where did you get it from?
how hard was it to do?
does it only go on once the car is off?
thanks

Adam

looks good!! I like the chrome

monsta · Sep 17th, 2002, 02:40 PM

You can get them from most auto spares shops, if you get a change over relay you can wire it up to come on when the ignition is off and go off when you turn the ignition on

Otherwise, try this:

http://www.speeding.co.uk/acatalog/w...ical__166.html

mikeythemini · Sep 17th, 2002, 08:27 PM

Dont bother with a relay
just buy an led or flashing led, wire the pos lead to a permanent live and the neg to an ignition supply and it will come on when you turn the iggnition off.

Cape Cod MINI · Sep 17th, 2002, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by monsta
In front of my air freshener

Monsta, I'm surprised you didn't get the chrome model

NEMINI · Sep 17th, 2002, 09:09 PM

Only problem with those little flashing lights are most theives know they are sold in auto-parts stores and are fake also ... maybe that is why MINI didn't bother with one.

PigLick · Sep 17th, 2002, 09:33 PM

Agreed GMINI, in fact I'd be interested to know if anyone's done any research on auto theft and how alarms actually affect the likelihood of a car being stolen.

Most professional car thieves can bypass even the most expensive alarms in a matter of seconds. I guess some of the small time smash-and-grab types might be deterred by an alarm, but they wouldn't have the know-how/equipment to actually steal a MINI anyway.

PigLick

Donut · Sep 17th, 2002, 10:48 PM

I had an alarm installed by the dealer and they put an LED in one of my empty toggle switch bays.

noahe · Sep 17th, 2002, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut
I had an alarm installed by the dealer and they put an LED in one of my empty toggle switch bays.

Pics please!

Donut · Sep 17th, 2002, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by noahe

Pics please!

Is this pic too small? It's the third one from the right. It blinks red when the alarm is enabled.

BruceK · Sep 18th, 2002, 12:37 AM

There is a flashing LED on the MINI's factory installed alarm - it's on the tip of the wiper stalk (mimicking a feature on early classic Minis where the turn signal indicator flashing light was on the tip of the turn signal lever).

While this alarm was not avalable in the US on 2002 models, it was available on MINIs sold in other markets such as the UK.

I'm sure someone will be posting a picture of it soon...... (hint, hint)

mini-is-4-me · Sep 18th, 2002, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BruceK
There is a flashing LED on the MINI's factory installed alarm - it's on the tip of the wiper stalk (mimicking a feature on early classic Minis where the turn signal indicator flashing light was on the tip of the turn signal lever).

While this alarm was not avalable in the US on 2002 models, it was available on MINIs sold in other markets such as the UK.

I'm sure someone will be posting a picture of it soon...... (hint, hint)

I just picked up my mini tonight...its a 2002, August build with Alarm and it has the little red blinking light on the dash in front of the air vent and its got the red cone light on the end of the washer stick. I'll have to work on the pictures if you really want them. I think it has some more red leds blinking in there...I'm going to go check right now... (boy that sounds cool) hehehe

BruceK · Sep 18th, 2002, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mini-is-4-me

I just picked up my mini tonight...its a 2002, August build with Alarm and it has the little red blinking light on the dash in front of the air vent and its got the red cone light on the end of the washer stick. I'll have to work on the pictures if you really want them. I think it has some more red leds blinking in there...I'm going to go check right now... (boy that sounds cool) hehehe

Congratulations on getting your MINI!

So, the LED on the wiper stalk was available on late 2002 builds for the US market? Cool.

I think you might be mistaken about the "the little red blinking light on the dash in front of the air vent". If you have climate control there is an infared sensor to measure sunlight sitting there that looks just an LED, but it isn't. (The infared sensor helps the climate control maintain the MINI's interior temperature by determining when sunlight is pouring through the windshield.)

Anyway, here's a picture of the LED on the wiper stalk (from the gallery of Ches

) :

fred-guido · Sep 18th, 2002, 05:12 AM

I also have the factory ibstalled alarm on my August build S and have the light pictured on the above post. Pretty neat, very visible and very noticeably not a fake led for thieves. I like it! Oh best of all, the factory installed alarm was only a $450.00 option while other people have ben quotes upwards of $1,300.00 by the dealers for aftermarket installs.

Basil · Sep 18th, 2002, 06:18 AM

Getting back to the subject (for a sec

), I agree that any vehicle fitted with a self arming immobiliser should have an LED to highlight the fact. Nearly all japanese cars have this, even on their very low end models.

For those that havn't ordered their MINI yet, the factory alarm is well worth getting ($570AU) and for RHD drive vehicles the flashing LED is facing the window so potential thieves can see it more easily.

(Bruce, wouldn't it have been great to have had a little green blinker (like the Alarm LED) on the indicator stalk. Now that would have been very cool

)

Pebble · Sep 18th, 2002, 03:58 PM

Ahhhhhh!

That explains this.

(Does that mean my watch cam with a factory alarm?)

dietcokeplease · Sep 18th, 2002, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PigLick
Agreed GMINI, in fact I'd be interested to know if anyone's done any research on auto theft and how alarms actually affect the likelihood of a car being stolen.

Most professional car thieves can bypass even the most expensive alarms in a matter of seconds. I guess some of the small time smash-and-grab types might be deterred by an alarm, but they wouldn't have the know-how/equipment to actually steal a MINI anyway.

PigLick

Desirable as the MINI is, I think that the level of theft will be relatively low. Why steal a £12,000/$20,000 MINI when you can just as easily get a £40,000/$60,000 Mercedes with no deadlocks?

It seems that vandalism seems to be more common.

BruceK · Sep 18th, 2002, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil
...(Bruce, wouldn't it have been great to have had a little green blinker (like the Alarm LED) on the indicator stalk. Now that would have been very cool )

Actually, that was supposed to happen - green on the turn signal stalk and red on the wiper stalk. Prototype MINIs where equipped this way.

Check out this news article where our very own Paul Mullett arranged for questions from MINI2 members to be answered by none other than Frank Stephenson, the MINI's designer.

http://www.mini2.com/news/news.php?id=33

Have a look at the last question that I got to ask Frank about the lights on the turn signal indicator stalk.

Sep 17th, 2002, 02:01 PM	#1
arabinow MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Local Time: 08:28 PM Posts: 217 Offline	Why No Anti-Theft Light? Of all the new cars coming to market I would say 80% of them would have a little flashing led for anti theft purposes.. whether or not you had an alarm? Why is there no such thing on the mini!!?? there is plenty of room for one? Adam ***************** Cooper Launch Edition # 7/500 Chili red , white roof

Sep 17th, 2002, 02:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 02:28 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	Yeah, that annoyed me too. If you don't have auto aircon there is a perfect place for it right in the middle of the dash near the screen. I fitted one myself, looks like OEM fitment the MINI has gone...

Sep 17th, 2002, 02:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 02:28 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	In front of my air freshener Attached Thumbnails the MINI has gone...

Sep 17th, 2002, 02:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
arabinow MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Local Time: 08:28 PM Posts: 217 Offline	where did you get it from? how hard was it to do? does it only go on once the car is off? thanks Adam looks good!! I like the chrome ***************** Cooper Launch Edition # 7/500 Chili red , white roof

Sep 17th, 2002, 02:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 02:28 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	You can get them from most auto spares shops, if you get a change over relay you can wire it up to come on when the ignition is off and go off when you turn the ignition on Otherwise, try this: http://www.speeding.co.uk/acatalog/w...ical__166.html the MINI has gone...

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Sep 17th, 2002, 08:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
mikeythemini I can't get no sleep My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Capital of Culture Local Time: 01:28 AM Posts: 9,438 Offline	Dont bother with a relay just buy an led or flashing led, wire the pos lead to a permanent live and the neg to an ignition supply and it will come on when you turn the iggnition off. Lakes Tour 2008 coming soon Are you ready for Lakes 2008 - details soon

Sep 17th, 2002, 09:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 09:28 PM Posts: 5,337 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by monsta In front of my air freshener Monsta, I'm surprised you didn't get the chrome model Missing my buddies Dan and Ed but glad I have two angel buddies, And on a quest to Right Secco's Wrongs

Sep 17th, 2002, 09:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 08:28 PM Posts: 7,866 Offline	Only problem with those little flashing lights are most theives know they are sold in auto-parts stores and are fake also ... maybe that is why MINI didn't bother with one. NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Sep 17th, 2002, 09:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
PigLick MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: us Local Time: 05:28 PM Posts: 512 Offline	Agreed GMINI, in fact I'd be interested to know if anyone's done any research on auto theft and how alarms actually affect the likelihood of a car being stolen. Most professional car thieves can bypass even the most expensive alarms in a matter of seconds. I guess some of the small time smash-and-grab types might be deterred by an alarm, but they wouldn't have the know-how/equipment to actually steal a MINI anyway. PigLick

Sep 17th, 2002, 10:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Donut MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Arlington, VA Local Time: 09:28 PM Posts: 511 Offline	I had an alarm installed by the dealer and they put an LED in one of my empty toggle switch bays.

Sep 17th, 2002, 11:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
noahe MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Local Time: 08:28 PM Posts: 1,638 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Donut I had an alarm installed by the dealer and they put an LED in one of my empty toggle switch bays. Pics please! Chilli Red/White Cooper S, Sport Pack & Sunroof. Delivered June 12th, 2002! Now with MCS Winter Tire Package.

Sep 17th, 2002, 11:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
Donut MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Arlington, VA Local Time: 09:28 PM Posts: 511 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by noahe Pics please! Is this pic too small? It's the third one from the right. It blinks red when the alarm is enabled. Attached Thumbnails

Sep 18th, 2002, 12:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 07:28 PM Posts: 3,758 Offline	There is a flashing LED on the MINI's factory installed alarm - it's on the tip of the wiper stalk (mimicking a feature on early classic Minis where the turn signal indicator flashing light was on the tip of the turn signal lever). While this alarm was not avalable in the US on 2002 models, it was available on MINIs sold in other markets such as the UK. I'm sure someone will be posting a picture of it soon...... (hint, hint) + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Sep 18th, 2002, 12:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
mini-is-4-me MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CA Local Time: 01:28 AM Posts: 518 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by BruceK There is a flashing LED on the MINI's factory installed alarm - it's on the tip of the wiper stalk (mimicking a feature on early classic Minis where the turn signal indicator flashing light was on the tip of the turn signal lever). While this alarm was not avalable in the US on 2002 models, it was available on MINIs sold in other markets such as the UK. I'm sure someone will be posting a picture of it soon...... (hint, hint) I just picked up my mini tonight...its a 2002, August build with Alarm and it has the little red blinking light on the dash in front of the air vent and its got the red cone light on the end of the washer stick. I'll have to work on the pictures if you really want them. I think it has some more red leds blinking in there...I'm going to go check right now... (boy that sounds cool) hehehe Ok, I've decided: My Car Aimee: Mini "S", Pure Silver/B, Premium (A/C and sun roof), DSC, Fog, and Heated seats. (Why? 'cause I can't wait a year)

Sep 18th, 2002, 01:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 07:28 PM Posts: 3,758 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by mini-is-4-me I just picked up my mini tonight...its a 2002, August build with Alarm and it has the little red blinking light on the dash in front of the air vent and its got the red cone light on the end of the washer stick. I'll have to work on the pictures if you really want them. I think it has some more red leds blinking in there...I'm going to go check right now... (boy that sounds cool) hehehe Congratulations on getting your MINI! So, the LED on the wiper stalk was available on late 2002 builds for the US market? Cool. I think you might be mistaken about the "the little red blinking light on the dash in front of the air vent". If you have climate control there is an infared sensor to measure sunlight sitting there that looks just an LED, but it isn't. (The infared sensor helps the climate control maintain the MINI's interior temperature by determining when sunlight is pouring through the windshield.) Anyway, here's a picture of the LED on the wiper stalk (from the gallery of Ches ) : + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Sep 18th, 2002, 05:12 AM	#16 (permalink)
fred-guido MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Local Time: 08:28 PM Posts: 145 Offline	I also have the factory ibstalled alarm on my August build S and have the light pictured on the above post. Pretty neat, very visible and very noticeably not a fake led for thieves. I like it! Oh best of all, the factory installed alarm was only a $450.00 option while other people have ben quotes upwards of $1,300.00 by the dealers for aftermarket installs. MCS Pure Silver/Black Lapis Blue Leather, Black door panels Sport Package Factory Installed Alarm Born 08/09/02,Delivered 08/28/02!

Sep 18th, 2002, 06:18 AM	#17 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:28 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Getting back to the subject (for a sec ), I agree that any vehicle fitted with a self arming immobiliser should have an LED to highlight the fact. Nearly all japanese cars have this, even on their very low end models. For those that havn't ordered their MINI yet, the factory alarm is well worth getting ($570AU) and for RHD drive vehicles the flashing LED is facing the window so potential thieves can see it more easily. (Bruce, wouldn't it have been great to have had a little green blinker (like the Alarm LED) on the indicator stalk. Now that would have been very cool )

Sep 18th, 2002, 03:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
Pebble MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando Fl Local Time: 09:28 PM Posts: 275 Offline	Ahhhhhh! That explains this. (Does that mean my watch cam with a factory alarm?) Attached Thumbnails

Sep 18th, 2002, 06:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
dietcokeplease Official MINI2 Fluffer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Spearmint Rhino Local Time: 01:28 AM Posts: 5,261 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by PigLick Agreed GMINI, in fact I'd be interested to know if anyone's done any research on auto theft and how alarms actually affect the likelihood of a car being stolen. Most professional car thieves can bypass even the most expensive alarms in a matter of seconds. I guess some of the small time smash-and-grab types might be deterred by an alarm, but they wouldn't have the know-how/equipment to actually steal a MINI anyway. PigLick Desirable as the MINI is, I think that the level of theft will be relatively low. Why steal a £12,000/$20,000 MINI when you can just as easily get a £40,000/$60,000 Mercedes with no deadlocks? It seems that vandalism seems to be more common. There is just one moon and one golden sun; And a smile mean friendship to ev'ryone; Through the mountains divide, and the oceans are wide; It's a small world after all.

Sep 18th, 2002, 09:30 PM	#20 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 07:28 PM Posts: 3,758 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil ...(Bruce, wouldn't it have been great to have had a little green blinker (like the Alarm LED) on the indicator stalk. Now that would have been very cool ) Actually, that was supposed to happen - green on the turn signal stalk and red on the wiper stalk. Prototype MINIs where equipped this way. Check out this news article where our very own Paul Mullett arranged for questions from MINI2 members to be answered by none other than Frank Stephenson, the MINI's designer. http://www.mini2.com/news/news.php?id=33 Have a look at the last question that I got to ask Frank about the lights on the turn signal indicator stalk. + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

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