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pisquano · Feb 18th, 2008, 01:20 PM

hi everyone
I am finally buying a used MCS but looking around I found out that not only from November 2006 the new model was released, but also that from July 2004 there was another change in the specs (more BHP, different gearbox ration)/

is that correct?
If so is it noticeable the difference between MCS before and after July 2004?

and finally,,,, is it really that better to buy a MCS post 2006 or will I be happy enough with a 2004 model (some people suggest the supercharge gives a funnier drive than the turbo) ? my finance don't stretch enough for a new model....

many thanks!

Federico

mini5lover · Feb 18th, 2008, 06:34 PM

Yes there was a change in the spec in 2004. Have owned a 2003 mcs and a 2005 mcs and there is a difference. Why dont you visit a dealer and drive both you will soon chose.
We were thinking of trading Swiper in for a new works s but cant do it we have driven one but the supercharger is better than the turbo!

nylo · Feb 18th, 2008, 07:20 PM

I had a Jan 04 Dark Silver/White S until the start of this month, and I changed it to a June 06 Checkmate S. The changes, aside from the cosmetic - different rear lights/different xenons - are noticable. The gearbox feels freer, and the clutch isn't as stiff. Acceleration seems a little quicker too, and it possibly pulls away a little more cleanly too.

As mentioned above, best thing for you to do is to try the two out. I don't think you'd be disappointed with either, should you find a pre-facelift model that's the right spec and price for you

Good luck!

Paul · Feb 18th, 2008, 07:24 PM

See here: http://www.mini2.com/forum/faq.php?f...ni_generations

pisquano · Feb 18th, 2008, 08:31 PM

thanks....any other thoughts?

Paul · Feb 18th, 2008, 08:39 PM

Depends on your budget and what you want from your MINI really. I'd go for either a 2nd gen Cooper S with turbo, or as late as possible first gen (supercharged). The former if you want decent fuel consumption, the latter for possibly the best built (all bugs ironed out) MINI you will buy.

pisquano · Feb 18th, 2008, 08:58 PM

thanks Paul...thing is I cannot afford the R56...
you mean that it's definetely worth spending the extra bucks for the "facelifted" version over the pre-July 2004? someone mentioned some problems of the first series of the R53 facelift.....

pisquano · Feb 18th, 2008, 09:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul (original)

or as late as possible first gen (supercharged). .

when would you say from? at least early 2005?

Feb 18th, 2008, 01:20 PM	#1
pisquano MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 25 Offline	urgent need of help choosing cherished MCS hi everyone I am finally buying a used MCS but looking around I found out that not only from November 2006 the new model was released, but also that from July 2004 there was another change in the specs (more BHP, different gearbox ration)/ is that correct? If so is it noticeable the difference between MCS before and after July 2004? and finally,,,, is it really that better to buy a MCS post 2006 or will I be happy enough with a 2004 model (some people suggest the supercharge gives a funnier drive than the turbo) ? my finance don't stretch enough for a new model.... many thanks! Federico

Feb 18th, 2008, 06:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
mini5lover MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Midlands Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 292 Offline	Yes there was a change in the spec in 2004. Have owned a 2003 mcs and a 2005 mcs and there is a difference. Why dont you visit a dealer and drive both you will soon chose. We were thinking of trading Swiper in for a new works s but cant do it we have driven one but the supercharger is better than the turbo! Mini obsessed

Feb 18th, 2008, 07:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
nylo Swig & pass, swig & pass! My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangor, Norn Iron Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 19,418 Offline	I had a Jan 04 Dark Silver/White S until the start of this month, and I changed it to a June 06 Checkmate S. The changes, aside from the cosmetic - different rear lights/different xenons - are noticable. The gearbox feels freer, and the clutch isn't as stiff. Acceleration seems a little quicker too, and it possibly pulls away a little more cleanly too. As mentioned above, best thing for you to do is to try the two out. I don't think you'd be disappointed with either, should you find a pre-facelift model that's the right spec and price for you Good luck! photobucket with lots more pics of runs clicky clicky!

Feb 18th, 2008, 07:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	See here: http://www.mini2.com/forum/faq.php?f...ni_generations Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Feb 18th, 2008, 08:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	Depends on your budget and what you want from your MINI really. I'd go for either a 2nd gen Cooper S with turbo, or as late as possible first gen (supercharged). The former if you want decent fuel consumption, the latter for possibly the best built (all bugs ironed out) MINI you will buy. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

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Feb 18th, 2008, 08:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
pisquano MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 25 Offline	thanks....any other thoughts?

Feb 18th, 2008, 08:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
pisquano MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 25 Offline	thanks Paul...thing is I cannot afford the R56... you mean that it's definetely worth spending the extra bucks for the "facelifted" version over the pre-July 2004? someone mentioned some problems of the first series of the R53 facelift.....

Feb 18th, 2008, 09:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
pisquano MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 25 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul (original) or as late as possible first gen (supercharged). . when would you say from? at least early 2005?

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