[Tigger, Eeyore & Roo]

Which month does this higher rate tax come in on?

Would it be worth cashing in the current tax disc and buying a full year (at the old rate) just before the increase is imposed?

Tigger.

[*Vikki*]

Quote: Originally Posted by baskers (original)

So, my council tax has gone up, as has my bread, eggs, petrol, heating, electricity, air-fare tax, and income tax... has my wage? No...

Is the level of service we're getting increased? No. This frigging green tax this, low emissions this - are they actually putting the money generated into actually stopping/helping climate change? No...

How us Brits actually bend over, part our arse-cheeks and take it right up the backside is beyond me. When I have a moan at work about the way that we are bled for every penny, people think I'm some kind of raging activist, but the level of apathy in this nation is soul-destroying...

hahahahaha so true and so well put lol cheared me up that! I get the same as well!

Think my 04 ONE has gone up by £5 so not bad, think ill be taxed though alot more!

[neilobe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)

Which month does this higher rate tax come in on?

Would it be worth cashing in the current tax disc and buying a full year (at the old rate) just before the increase is imposed?

Tigger.

New road tax prices – how it will affect you - Auto Trader UK - News and Reviews Hub

This link might help explain better..

[Lawrothegreat]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)

Which month does this higher rate tax come in on?

Would it be worth cashing in the current tax disc and buying a full year (at the old rate) just before the increase is imposed?

Tigger.

You could downgrade to a R56 MCS!!!!

[*Vikki*]

By looking at that auto trader site i am on band D so it will go up £5 this year, from 2009 does it then drop for my car to £90? or is that only for brand new cars? if it does drop why is it now £140 soon tobe £145?

[Hugo]

It won't be for another couple years till its upto £300.

[*Vikki*]

oh its so confusing, what C02 stuff comes out the rear end of a ONE 2004 pre facelift anyone know cant find it

[Goonery]

Very odd

I can drive the GP, which according to stats spits out 207gm of whatever it is flat out everywhere and do 12 mpg, or I can take it steady and get well in excess of 34 mpg, now is my Co2 still 207gm if I drive it like its stolen or if I drive like it your granny

It just does not add up

[Lawrothegreat]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)

Very odd

I can drive the GP, which according to stats spits out 207gm of whatever it is flat out everywhere and do 12 mpg, or I can take it steady and get well in excess of 34 mpg, now is my Co2 still 207gm if I drive it like its stolen or if I drive like it your granny

It just does not add up

You're absolutely right. Taxation based on CO2 rates does not take into account a variety of factors. But I suppose if you drive harder you'll pay more through fuel. Diesels which have lower CO2 rates pollute the atmosphere with other gases 'that are not spoken about'.

[Hugo]

But in 2010-2011, what is this £550 1st year rate? Then £310 after that.

[Hyper Active]

Am i right in thinking that the new A to M tax band rates announced today , only apply to newly registered cars, and that cars already on the road are still taxed by the old A to G tax band system . I didn't think that new road tax systems could be back dated to cover older cars . As they haven't in the past .

The revised tax bills for 2008-9


Tax Band CO2 Emissions (g/km) 2007-08 rate 2008-09 rate
A 0-100 0 0
B 101-120 35 35
C 121-150 115 120
D 151-165 140 145
E 166-185 165 170
F 186+ (cars registered before 23/3/08) 205 210
G 226+ (cars registered after 23/3/08 300 400


The new tax system 2009-10 and 2010-11

Tax Band CO2 Emissions (g/km) 2009-10 standard rate 2010-11 first year rate 2010-11 standard rate
A 0-100 0 0 0
B 101-110 20 0 20
C 111-120 30 0 35
D 121-130 90 0 95
E 131-140 110 115 115
F 141-150 120 125 125
G 151-160 150 155 155
H 161-170 175 250 180
I 171-180 205 300 210
J 181-200 260 425 270
K 201-225 300 550 310
L 226-255 415 750 430
M 225+ 440 950 455

[Lawrothegreat]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original)

But in 2010-2011, what is this £550 1st year rate? Then £310 after that.

I guess it is unfair for those who need a cheap 4x4 for genuine country use. There is no reason for family car to be rated at £550 in the first year. Even a 330i M Sport Coupe (272 hp) would be at the £300 first year / £210 thereafter rate.

I don't think this is a bad deal for new cars, just owners of nearly-new cars.

[Gemini4321]

Quote:

MATT FT
<puts on flame proof vest and gets out troll poking stick>

I think it's a good thing. We need something to encourage car manufacturers and consumers to move to lower emission cars.

Also, just sold 2002 MCS and got a Clubman Cooper S, means my road tax goes from £210 to £35

Dont know where you got that info from cause I just checked mine 150 C02 = band C = £120 up from £115 for Clubman Cooper S


Band
CO2 emission (g/km)
12 months rate
6 months rate

A
Up to 100
Not applicable
Not applicable

B
101-120
£35.00
Not applicable

C
121-150
£120.00
£66.00

D
151-165
£145.00
£79.75

E
166-185
£170.00
£93.50

F
Over 185
£210.00
£115.50

G
Over 225 – for cars registered on or after 23/03/06
£400.00
£220.00



Sue

[neilobe]

Need a nice bigger aftermarket exhaust system now to burn out more CO2 as will be payin more for it..

[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original)

But in 2010-2011, what is this £550 1st year rate? Then £310 after that.

The idea is that a higher purchase price for less green vehicles due to the higher 1st year tax will put people off, but whats £200 when you are buying something for £20k+ on a 3 year PCP deal?

I'd say a flat rate of £200 for road fund licence across the board for anything under 2 litres, £300 for 3 litres, £400 for 4 litres and so on. Then stick 0.50 pence on fuel per litre but make that after the VAT has been charged on a standard price.

That would encourage efficient smaller engines and a lighter right foot for the drivers most of the time, but still allow some sporty driving when you feel flush

[danpd13]

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I Hate this ineffecient, dishonest, communist nanny state we have no choice but to live in!!!!!!!!!

[KillerByte]

Just bought an R53 as well.

[Gristy]

Not sure whether to get a late R53 MCS or an early R56 MCS - think i might go for the R56 now!!

At least he delayed the fuel duty rise till later in the year...

[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by danpd13 (original)

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I Hate this ineffecient, dishonest, communist nanny state we have no choice but to live in!!!!!!!!!

You do have a choice, We all have a choice, it's called the ballot box, there is also civil disobedience, protest and a hundred other ways to change things.
At the end of the day, the government is elected to do our bidding, if they don' t measure up then all we have to do is tell them en masse. A quiet but orderly revolution. I feel a Number 10 petition coming on to start with......

[baskers]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gristie (original)

At least he delayed the fuel duty rise till later in the year...

What a Darling...