[ScottyBoy]

The thought of the govenment taking £300 tax of me is sickening, im really getting ****ed of about it.

[IH1]

Thieving scum!! Its just another way for them to take more money from people!!! £300 is a bloody joke! I hate this government!

[billy.batson]

Quote: Originally Posted by IH1 (original)

Thieving scum!! Its just another way for them to take more money from people!!! £300 is a bloody joke! I hate this government!

Hear Hear!!

[alski]

bet all our mp's get a transport allowance any way......tony used to take his bloddy jet every where.....

[Lawrothegreat]

Don't forget basic income tax is going down so its swings and roundabouts.........

[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lawrothegreat (original)

Don't forget basic income tax is going down so its swings and roundabouts.........

Basic yes, but for those on £30k plus it'll be going up in reality

[Hickster]

Quote: Originally Posted by giler (original)

I need to get more carbon for my £300 !! Just to supplement it I think I will go out into the garden and chop some more trees down and have a bonfire each week, I may chuck a few old tyres on for good measure, I may throw the recycling boxes on too!! Viva la revolution.

Good to see some good grown up adult attitudes in this thread

[Darthbladerni]

For myself I came into all this recently so the norm for me was just under £1 a litre for petrol and everything else so i cant compare what I have had to pay compared to what you all are as you have been experiancing this for alot longer than me.

From reading through this the same point is coming through, that we arent getting anything obvious back for what we have to pay. You all work hard and then it is taken away with tax and everything else but not seeing anything come back or improved( i say YOU as i am still in college and only have a part time job for which I am still getting taxed on).
Roads not being improved is one point as near me they resurfaced one road then ran out of funds somehow considering that they decided to build a multi million pound shopping centre when there is one less than a mile from it. Makes no sense.
The main thing that f*****g bugs me and actually has done since i was in fourth year is the dole. Benefits for people doing FA!!! why do they get it just because they dont have a job? i understand that some people maybe cant get a job easily but some people just dont want to ever get one and live off the dole. They get tax payers money for absolutely no reason, just because they are inbred f*****g spieds( generalisation there sorry) There used to be people in my year who longed to leave school and get on the dole.

Even though im 19 and dont pay anything near what all of you do, for tax and road tax and everything. i still understand where everyone is coming from as my parents swear at the TV alot when news stories like this comes on. My dad would share the same point as some of you about moving away from here.
TBH i dont blame you!!!!

So really this post was about government spending in specific areas instead of the thread road tax increase but it is all a result of the government being absolute tw&t$.

[MINI-Morgan]

Wow if the car tax rattled you that much then you'll love the fact that unless you are earning over £40k then you will now have to pay an extra £100 for road tax but also in 2009 you will take a £100 a month pay cut. Ouch! Still no one is yet to stand up about that one.....what can I say other than.... I hope your house is paid off cause we'll be in a recession by 2010. Public spending will be at an all time low.

Why not calculate how much you are given starting 1st of April and how much they take away in a years time here: UK Budget and your pay in 2007 2008 2009 2010

Anyone elses arses feel sore??

[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hickster (original)

Good to see some good grown up adult attitudes in this thread

Hey Paul, what about the potential for building COAL fired power-stations that the Gov have in hand thats not exactly green is it?
The coal has to be transported hundreds of miles from mines in Eastern Euro land and then pumps tonnes of CO2 when its turned into electricity, and car owners are being hit for MINIscule amounts.

[Jove]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Wow if the car tax rattled you that much then you'll love the fact that unless you are earning over £40k then you will now have to pay an extra £100 for road tax but also in 2009 you will take a £100 a month pay cut. Ouch! Still no one is yet to stand up about that one.....what can I say other than.... I hope your house is paid off cause we'll be in a recession by 2010. Public spending will be at an all time low.

Why not calculate how much you are given starting 1st of April and how much they take away in a years time here: UK Budget and your pay in 2007 2008 2009 2010

Anyone elses arses feel sore??

Time to leave this country!

[Lawrothegreat]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Why not calculate how much you are given starting 1st of April and how much they take away in a years time here: UK Budget and your pay in 2007 2008 2009 2010

Anyone elses arses feel sore??

Poo my take home pay goes down - but that wouldn't take into account cost of living increases. It would be really interesting to do a comparison with other countries - e.g. how much you would be taxed on a similar salary, how much you'd be taxed on a similar car etc. I'd make a bet that other European countries have it worse but probably only a few

[Hickster]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Wow if the car tax rattled you that much then you'll love the fact that unless you are earning over £40k then you will now have to pay an extra £100 for road tax but also in 2009 you will take a £100 a month pay cut. Ouch! Still no one is yet to stand up about that one.....what can I say other than.... I hope your house is paid off cause we'll be in a recession by 2010. Public spending will be at an all time low.

Why not calculate how much you are given starting 1st of April and how much they take away in a years time here: UK Budget and your pay in 2007 2008 2009 2010

Anyone elses arses feel sore??

That doesn't take account of changes in the tax free allowance (should there be any). Mind you, doesn't look good for 09/10. Better save the extra £270 I'll be getting in 08/09 year!

[Hickster]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)

Hey Paul, what about the potential for building COAL fired power-stations that the Gov have in hand thats not exactly green is it?
The coal has to be transported hundreds of miles from mines in Eastern Euro land and then pumps tonnes of CO2 when its turned into electricity, and car owners are being hit for MINIscule amounts.

I thought the government was kicking off building Nuclear power stations again instead of Coal??

[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hickster (original)

That doesn't take account of changes in the tax free allowance (should there be any). Mind you, doesn't look good for 09/10. Better save the extra £270 I'll be getting in 08/09 year!

This is true Lets hope for a £1200 increase

I was actually sad enough to read quite a bit of the budget today. well actually I was really bored! And the only good bits that stuck out are that over 65s will get £9K soon as there tax free allowance and that I'm better off with 2 kids in theory. Although kids are expensive so I hear! Aeroplanes are going to be taxed per plane instead of per person so full flights id hope now! and best of all.... the government are going a trial of trains running on bio diesel

I think people that use Tesco 99 with its Bio Ethanol content should get a 10% rebate on fuel tax

[Tara&Paul]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)

You do have a choice, We all have a choice, it's called the ballot box, there is also civil disobedience, protest and a hundred other ways to change things.
At the end of the day, the government is elected to do our bidding, if they don' t measure up then all we have to do is tell them en masse. A quiet but orderly revolution. I feel a Number 10 petition coming on to start with......

I agree 100%.

[Prowse]

Quote: Originally Posted by alski (original)

just to cheer every one up our 18 ton derv spewing truck the size of a furnture removal wagon costs £110.00 for the last 6 months road tax, about 10-12mpg
just shows how consumers fair....

Wouldn't worry about that. The government's trying to get everyone into diesel cars (I'd rather walk). Once they've achieved this with the majority of car owners, they'll start putting the price of diesel up.

What we need is an electric MINI, powered by a nice zero carbon nuclear power station.


It's only a £90 increase, over a year that's very little. I'm doing my bit for global warming, which, if it works, will mean the UK weather will improve so I'll have to spend less of foreign holidays.

[giler]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hickster (original)

Good to see some good grown up adult attitudes in this thread

What I call childish is the fact the bas***ds can claim £750 expenses for a tv and another £750 for hifi for their SECOND house and thats just for starters, its not suprising it arouses a few negative comments.

[Goonery]

Lets explode a myth or two on the Bio Fuel subject.

Firstly it is seen as an alternative to oil, not a substitute. Its increasing use is there to reduce reliance on fossil fuel oil based product which is increasingly difficult to extract, then there is the price of oil which is rising, so the use of bio fuel is substitutional as an offset against higher costs and dwindling supply for many countries.
Secondly, the growing of bio fuel crops is taking away land the food crop would normally use, so there is less of that to go round which in turn means higher prices to manufacturers and consumers.
Thirdly, the process of growing, harvesting and converting plant based fuels is arguably higher in Co2 terms than extracting conventional oil. You can't just pipe it from where it is grown to a refinery or terminal.
Fourthly it has a shelf life, so it cannot be stored in its natural state in stockpiles of 'crude' like oil from the ground, it has to be processed quite quickly after harvesting.
And my last point is that it cannot be grown in a way that can be considered organically sustainably, in that it requires huge amounts of fertilizers and genetic engineering to get the yields up to commercially viable levels, add to this the need for irrigation , sympathetic weather conditions and the fact the the growing medium (soil) will become exhausted from over use, its hardly a reliable source of future energy.

[randap]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)

You do have a choice, We all have a choice, it's called the ballot box, there is also civil disobedience, protest and a hundred other ways to change things.
At the end of the day, the government is elected to do our bidding, if they don' t measure up then all we have to do is tell them en masse. A quiet but orderly revolution. I feel a Number 10 petition coming on to start with......

That's so true. How many people just criticise, but then don't vote, quoting "there's no alternative". You are much better off voting but spoiling you ballot paper - makes more of a statement than apathy.

Personally I didn't vote for this lot, and never have. Yet whilst there is no "viable" alternative I still feel I have to vote in order to be non-hypocritical and be able to criticise.

In my opinion, you MUST vote.