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Steady · Mar 15th, 2008, 03:11 PM

what's the CO2 emissions for a GP?

Joogle · Mar 15th, 2008, 03:26 PM

207 - its in the £300 bracket.......

MINI-Morgan · Mar 15th, 2008, 03:48 PM

Does anyone know if the R53 works has the same CO2 and mpg figures as the standard R53? Being a tuning kit id expect do but just wondered if you ordered it from the factory if it was changed?

MINI-Morgan · Mar 15th, 2008, 03:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Steady (original)

what's the CO2 emissions for a GP?

second that!?

Got to be much higher un;ess MINI did some fudge on the numbers

Fin · Mar 15th, 2008, 05:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Steady (original)

what's the CO2 emissions for a GP?

Quote: Originally Posted by Joogle (original)

207 - its in the £300 bracket.......

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

second that!?

Got to be much higher un;ess MINI did some fudge on the numbers

Says 207 g/km on my V5.

Hugo · Mar 15th, 2008, 05:26 PM

SSSSHhhhhhhhhhhh I'm buying a Works Kit

Hugo · Mar 15th, 2008, 05:27 PM

My dads 05 Focus 1.8 is going to hit hard and its only 115bhp............. Ford and there dirty engines

MINI-Morgan · Mar 15th, 2008, 07:09 PM

45 extra HP and only a couple more CO2! Well actually i will give the GP its credit, it is good on fuel

Fin · Mar 15th, 2008, 07:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

45 extra HP and only a couple more CO2! Well actually i will give the GP its credit, it is good on fuel

A little bit lighter and slightly lower drag coefficient compared to the standard MCS mean that it isn't too much worse on fuel.

And it will take more than an idiot with grey hair and black eyebrows to drag me out of it!

bigpoppa81 · Mar 15th, 2008, 11:38 PM

here is a calculator, seems that if your mini is before 2004 its slightly cheaper than the face lifted versions?

Road tax - Parker's

hoojkel · Mar 21st, 2008, 11:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hickster (original)

VED hasn't been specifically for road maintenance since it's stopped being called Road Tax. It's a 'Green' tax based on vehicle ownership that all goes into a big pot along with fuel duty and probably most other taxes, to be distributed however the treasury sees fit.

It wasn't so long ago when 'Road Tax' bands where based on the type of vehicle - motorcycles, passenger vehicles, commercial vehicles etc (reliant robins were actually classed as motorcycles and my dad did try to convince me to buy one

). Then it became linked to engine capacity, and now it's based on CO2 emissions.

Come the time when most cars are below the 120g/km threshold, the goalposts will either move down, or it'll be based on other emissions as well as CO2.

If you used V power or BP Ultimate, which increase fuel economy, you'll pay less tax through fuel duty because you won't be filling up so often, though with the prices of these premium fuels, I'm not sure how worthwhile it is.

BTW, you'll be paying 15 times more VED than me next year.

I'll be going 15 times faster than you in my JCW !!

aharte · Mar 22nd, 2008, 02:16 AM

What annoys me is the government takes manufacturers figures as gospel. Which Magazine has just tested the Mini D and instead of having BMW figures of MPG of 72.4 it managed 53.3 -26% worse and a CO2 of, BMW claimed 104 they recorded 133 +28% worse.

It sums up to me what a farce the whole thing is. Normally I would discount the majority of Which Road Tests but they have always been very minded towards green issues, so I don't have very much cause to dis-believe them in this case.

It almost makes me want to buy a Mini D!

MINI-Morgan · Mar 22nd, 2008, 11:31 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by aharte (original)

What annoys me is the government takes manufacturers figures as gospel. Which Magazine has just tested the Mini D and instead of having BMW figures of MPG of 72.4 it managed 53.3 -26% worse and a CO2 of, BMW claimed 104 they recorded 133 +28% worse.

It sums up to me what a farce the whole thing is. Normally I would discount the majority of Which Road Tests but they have always been very minded towards green issues, so I don't have very much cause to dis-believe them in this case.

It almost makes me want to buy a Mini D!

Its all about who drives it.......but the fact it took them 5 minutes to reach 50mph wasnt recorded

Mar 15th, 2008, 03:26 PM	#162 (permalink)
Joogle MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2006 Location: Midlands Local Time: 02:23 AM Posts: 918 Offline	207 - its in the £300 bracket....... Its a very difficult job and the only way to get through it is we all work together as a team.....

Mar 15th, 2008, 03:48 PM	#163 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 01:23 AM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Does anyone know if the R53 works has the same CO2 and mpg figures as the standard R53? Being a tuning kit id expect do but just wondered if you ordered it from the factory if it was changed? One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Mar 15th, 2008, 03:49 PM	#164 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 01:23 AM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Steady (original) what's the CO2 emissions for a GP? second that!? Got to be much higher un;ess MINI did some fudge on the numbers One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Mar 15th, 2008, 07:09 PM	#168 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 01:23 AM Posts: 4,679 Offline	45 extra HP and only a couple more CO2! Well actually i will give the GP its credit, it is good on fuel One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Mar 22nd, 2008, 11:31 AM	#173 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 01:23 AM Posts: 4,679 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by aharte (original) What annoys me is the government takes manufacturers figures as gospel. Which Magazine has just tested the Mini D and instead of having BMW figures of MPG of 72.4 it managed 53.3 -26% worse and a CO2 of, BMW claimed 104 they recorded 133 +28% worse. It sums up to me what a farce the whole thing is. Normally I would discount the majority of Which Road Tests but they have always been very minded towards green issues, so I don't have very much cause to dis-believe them in this case. It almost makes me want to buy a Mini D! Its all about who drives it.......but the fact it took them 5 minutes to reach 50mph wasnt recorded One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

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Mar 15th, 2008, 05:26 PM	#165 (permalink)
Fin Giggity-goo! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dangling by a thread Local Time: 01:23 AM Posts: 2,640 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Steady (original) what's the CO2 emissions for a GP? Quote: Originally Posted by Joogle (original) 207 - its in the £300 bracket....... Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original) second that!? Got to be much higher un;ess MINI did some fudge on the numbers Says 207 g/km on my V5.

Mar 15th, 2008, 05:26 PM	#166 (permalink)
Hugo MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2006 Location: Over 4.5k RPM Local Time: 01:23 AM Posts: 2,939 Offline	SSSSHhhhhhhhhhhh I'm buying a Works Kit

Mar 15th, 2008, 05:27 PM	#167 (permalink)
Hugo MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2006 Location: Over 4.5k RPM Local Time: 01:23 AM Posts: 2,939 Offline	My dads 05 Focus 1.8 is going to hit hard and its only 115bhp............. Ford and there dirty engines

Mar 15th, 2008, 07:14 PM	#169 (permalink)
Fin Giggity-goo! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dangling by a thread Local Time: 01:23 AM Posts: 2,640 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original) 45 extra HP and only a couple more CO2! Well actually i will give the GP its credit, it is good on fuel A little bit lighter and slightly lower drag coefficient compared to the standard MCS mean that it isn't too much worse on fuel. And it will take more than an idiot with grey hair and black eyebrows to drag me out of it!

Mar 15th, 2008, 11:38 PM	#170 (permalink)
bigpoppa81 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: May 2006 Local Time: 02:23 AM Posts: 160 Offline	here is a calculator, seems that if your mini is before 2004 its slightly cheaper than the face lifted versions? Road tax - Parker's

Mar 21st, 2008, 11:33 PM	#171 (permalink)
hoojkel MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Belfast Local Time: 01:23 AM Posts: 436 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hickster (original) VED hasn't been specifically for road maintenance since it's stopped being called Road Tax. It's a 'Green' tax based on vehicle ownership that all goes into a big pot along with fuel duty and probably most other taxes, to be distributed however the treasury sees fit. It wasn't so long ago when 'Road Tax' bands where based on the type of vehicle - motorcycles, passenger vehicles, commercial vehicles etc (reliant robins were actually classed as motorcycles and my dad did try to convince me to buy one ). Then it became linked to engine capacity, and now it's based on CO2 emissions. Come the time when most cars are below the 120g/km threshold, the goalposts will either move down, or it'll be based on other emissions as well as CO2. If you used V power or BP Ultimate, which increase fuel economy, you'll pay less tax through fuel duty because you won't be filling up so often, though with the prices of these premium fuels, I'm not sure how worthwhile it is. BTW, you'll be paying 15 times more VED than me next year. I'll be going 15 times faster than you in my JCW !!

Mar 22nd, 2008, 02:16 AM	#172 (permalink)
aharte MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 02:23 AM Posts: 47 Offline	What annoys me is the government takes manufacturers figures as gospel. Which Magazine has just tested the Mini D and instead of having BMW figures of MPG of 72.4 it managed 53.3 -26% worse and a CO2 of, BMW claimed 104 they recorded 133 +28% worse. It sums up to me what a farce the whole thing is. Normally I would discount the majority of Which Road Tests but they have always been very minded towards green issues, so I don't have very much cause to dis-believe them in this case. It almost makes me want to buy a Mini D!

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