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SUGARMUPPET · Mar 19th, 2008, 02:36 PM

Now i wish i went for the diesel!!

In the running for a new job at work, will be quite a bit of travelling involved, covering area from aberdeen to newcastle! so will get to spend lots of time in my mini! yay!

Question being....they give 9p per mile travelling costs. Do you think this is reasonable? and could i run a mini (cooper 1.6) on that? (doesnt seem that much to me, and my baby so far has seemed quite expensive on fuel although not worked out mile to gallon) comments please!

thanks

paige07 · Mar 19th, 2008, 02:39 PM

9P per mile is that all, i thought mine was bad when i get expenses for traveling and i get 35p per mile and do around 700 miles per month for business.

Prowse · Mar 19th, 2008, 02:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SUGARMUPPET (original)

Now i wish i went for the diesel!!

Wash your mouth out.

dlpruk · Mar 19th, 2008, 02:52 PM

Both 9p per mile and 35p are ridiculous if you supply the car in order to do the job. See:

Running Cost Tables - The AA for petrol costs and:
Running Cost Tables - The AA for diesel.

humph · Mar 19th, 2008, 02:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SUGARMUPPET (original)

Now i wish i went for the diesel!!

In the running for a new job at work, will be quite a bit of travelling involved, covering area from aberdeen to newcastle! so will get to spend lots of time in my mini! yay!

Question being....they give 9p per mile travelling costs. Do you think this is reasonable? and could i run a mini (cooper 1.6) on that? (doesnt seem that much to me, and my baby so far has seemed quite expensive on fuel although not worked out mile to gallon) comments please!

thanks

And I thought the 11.7p/mile we get was disgusting

. At the moment based on 34 mpg and 102.9p a litre my R50 Cooper costs about 14-15p/mile to run. I keep an accurate spreadsheet for work/tax purposes. Try pushing for more.

The one plus point is that the government says that you are entitled to earn 40p/mile for the first 10k, and 25p/mile thereafter, tax free. So you can get a tax rebate on the difference. So for example you will get a tax rebate on 40p-9p = 31pence. Tax rebate will be 31x22% = 6.82 p/mile (for the first 10k anyway). You will need to keep a record of all journeys you make for work. And don't forget that a commute from your usual place of residence to any workplace other than your permanent office is a business journey.

humph · Mar 19th, 2008, 02:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dlpruk (original)

Both 9p per mile and 35p are ridiculous if you supply the car in order to do the job. See:

Running Cost Tables - The AA for petrol costs and:
Running Cost Tables - The AA for diesel.

Good point. I do get a car allowance to put towards buying/running the car of my choice. So my mileage rate is essentially purely for putting fuel in it, should also cover some wear and tear but doesn't at the moment. If you do not get a car allowance then your mileage rate should be far far higher, more like the tax free rates. Your car will tumble in value, trust me I know, and you should be compensated for it somehow.

Posts001 · Mar 19th, 2008, 03:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Prowse (original)

Wash your mouth out.

Good Call Mate

jlove · Mar 19th, 2008, 04:24 PM

We keep accurate fleet costings on our vehicles and our 2004 Cooper has averaged a fuel cost of 11.2p per mile and vehicle cost of 13.7, giving a total cost of 24.9p per mile. This total includes an estimate for depreciation that is quite optimistic, so I'd say that the true cost, when we sell it, will be higher.

Having said that, it's cheaper to run that a Ford Courier 50TD, the next best one.

SUGARMUPPET · Mar 21st, 2008, 08:12 PM

Well having been a bit more informed about new job (i.e speaking to my, hopefully, new boss instead of taking my currents boss's word for it) it appears that i get 40p a mile!!!

Which is an awful lot better and realistic i think. Job is pretty good, very different to what i do now, but would mean putting an awful lot of miles on my car (currently done 18k) but that would be good too, spending quality time everyday with my mini!! But would mean being away from home etc etc ... oh the dilema....better stop rambling as getting off topic, just feeling confused

KillerByte · Mar 21st, 2008, 08:21 PM

40p per mile is good.

As Humph mentioned earlier, make sure you're insured for business use on your MINI or else you're not covered.

SUGARMUPPET · Mar 21st, 2008, 08:27 PM

yeah, was told that too. Dont get expenses book until i provide insurance certificate with business use on it ! Is this likely to make a huge difference to policy?

humph · Mar 21st, 2008, 09:14 PM

Most insurers throw it in free these days. Is the rate 40p flat rate no matter how many miles you do? Or does it drop after say 10k like the tax free allowance. It's just that if it's flat rate you could end up being taxed on it after 10k miles.

Some links to the IR pages

Employees using own vehicles for work: statutory mileage rates 2002/03 onwards: kinds of vehicle

Employees using own vehicles for work: use of the approved amount: chargeable amount and relief available

Employees using own vehicles for work: examples: mileage allowance payments at pence per mile rate

gunge · Mar 21st, 2008, 09:17 PM

I have just renewed my insurance (with e-sure, having previously been with Tesco for many years). Adding business use to the policy cost me nothing extra, I was told that is the case for all of their policys, not just for my circumstances.

S.

Mar 19th, 2008, 02:36 PM	#1
SUGARMUPPET MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 26 Offline	Cost per mile Now i wish i went for the diesel!! In the running for a new job at work, will be quite a bit of travelling involved, covering area from aberdeen to newcastle! so will get to spend lots of time in my mini! yay! Question being....they give 9p per mile travelling costs. Do you think this is reasonable? and could i run a mini (cooper 1.6) on that? (doesnt seem that much to me, and my baby so far has seemed quite expensive on fuel although not worked out mile to gallon) comments please! thanks

Mar 19th, 2008, 02:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
dlpruk MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 362 Offline	Both 9p per mile and 35p are ridiculous if you supply the car in order to do the job. See: Running Cost Tables - The AA for petrol costs and: Running Cost Tables - The AA for diesel. David

Mar 19th, 2008, 02:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
humph Back To My Old Self Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Wind Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 2,415 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SUGARMUPPET (original) Now i wish i went for the diesel!! In the running for a new job at work, will be quite a bit of travelling involved, covering area from aberdeen to newcastle! so will get to spend lots of time in my mini! yay! Question being....they give 9p per mile travelling costs. Do you think this is reasonable? and could i run a mini (cooper 1.6) on that? (doesnt seem that much to me, and my baby so far has seemed quite expensive on fuel although not worked out mile to gallon) comments please! thanks And I thought the 11.7p/mile we get was disgusting. At the moment based on 34 mpg and 102.9p a litre my R50 Cooper costs about 14-15p/mile to run. I keep an accurate spreadsheet for work/tax purposes. Try pushing for more. The one plus point is that the government says that you are entitled to earn 40p/mile for the first 10k, and 25p/mile thereafter, tax free. So you can get a tax rebate on the difference. So for example you will get a tax rebate on 40p-9p = 31pence. Tax rebate will be 31x22% = 6.82 p/mile (for the first 10k anyway). You will need to keep a record of all journeys you make for work. And don't forget that a commute from your usual place of residence to any workplace other than your permanent office is a business journey.

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Mar 19th, 2008, 02:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
paige07 mini-mad Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: north east Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 20 Offline	9P per mile is that all, i thought mine was bad when i get expenses for traveling and i get 35p per mile and do around 700 miles per month for business.

Mar 19th, 2008, 02:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Prowse MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lancs Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 1,499 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SUGARMUPPET (original) Now i wish i went for the diesel!! Wash your mouth out.

Mar 19th, 2008, 02:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
humph Back To My Old Self Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Wind Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 2,415 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by dlpruk (original) Both 9p per mile and 35p are ridiculous if you supply the car in order to do the job. See: Running Cost Tables - The AA for petrol costs and: Running Cost Tables - The AA for diesel. Good point. I do get a car allowance to put towards buying/running the car of my choice. So my mileage rate is essentially purely for putting fuel in it, should also cover some wear and tear but doesn't at the moment. If you do not get a car allowance then your mileage rate should be far far higher, more like the tax free rates. Your car will tumble in value, trust me I know, and you should be compensated for it somehow.

Mar 19th, 2008, 03:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
Posts001 Me new car keeps Whining! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Somewhere Exciting!! Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 1,060 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Prowse (original) Wash your mouth out. Good Call Mate

Mar 19th, 2008, 04:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
jlove 3 JWL Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Salisbury Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 56 Offline	We keep accurate fleet costings on our vehicles and our 2004 Cooper has averaged a fuel cost of 11.2p per mile and vehicle cost of 13.7, giving a total cost of 24.9p per mile. This total includes an estimate for depreciation that is quite optimistic, so I'd say that the true cost, when we sell it, will be higher. Having said that, it's cheaper to run that a Ford Courier 50TD, the next best one.

Mar 21st, 2008, 08:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
SUGARMUPPET MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 26 Offline	Well having been a bit more informed about new job (i.e speaking to my, hopefully, new boss instead of taking my currents boss's word for it) it appears that i get 40p a mile!!! Which is an awful lot better and realistic i think. Job is pretty good, very different to what i do now, but would mean putting an awful lot of miles on my car (currently done 18k) but that would be good too, spending quality time everyday with my mini!! But would mean being away from home etc etc ... oh the dilema....better stop rambling as getting off topic, just feeling confused

Mar 21st, 2008, 08:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
KillerByte Skadoosh! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nottingham Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 9,577 Offline	40p per mile is good. As Humph mentioned earlier, make sure you're insured for business use on your MINI or else you're not covered.

Mar 21st, 2008, 08:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
SUGARMUPPET MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 26 Offline	yeah, was told that too. Dont get expenses book until i provide insurance certificate with business use on it ! Is this likely to make a huge difference to policy?

Mar 21st, 2008, 09:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
humph Back To My Old Self Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Wind Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 2,415 Offline	Most insurers throw it in free these days. Is the rate 40p flat rate no matter how many miles you do? Or does it drop after say 10k like the tax free allowance. It's just that if it's flat rate you could end up being taxed on it after 10k miles. Some links to the IR pages Employees using own vehicles for work: statutory mileage rates 2002/03 onwards: kinds of vehicle Employees using own vehicles for work: use of the approved amount: chargeable amount and relief available Employees using own vehicles for work: examples: mileage allowance payments at pence per mile rate

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Mar 21st, 2008, 09:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
gunge MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Local Time: 01:37 PM Posts: 6 Offline	I have just renewed my insurance (with e-sure, having previously been with Tesco for many years). Adding business use to the policy cost me nothing extra, I was told that is the case for all of their policys, not just for my circumstances. S.