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sr-euro · May 4th, 2008, 05:39 PM

I've been looking into getting a cooper s, but I still know nothing about the cars I have a few questions.
What year cooper did best and should I look into (for performance)? I'm also looking into getting a grey w black trim, was that only available in the newer cooper?
My reason for getting a mini is that I currently drive a LR (v8) and my wallet is constantly empty.
And previously to the land rover I had a 325i E30 which I wholeheartedly miss and I need another better fuel efficient, faster car.
thank you.

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · May 4th, 2008, 06:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sr-euro (original)

I've been looking into getting a cooper s, but I still know nothing about the cars I have a few questions.
What year cooper did best and should I look into (for performance)? I'm also looking into getting a grey w black trim, was that only available in the newer cooper?
My reason for getting a mini is that I currently drive a LR (v8) and my wallet is constantly empty.
And previously to the land rover I had a 325i E30 which I wholeheartedly miss and I need another better fuel efficient, faster car.
thank you.

To try and answer your questions:

1. Grey with black trim is available in all years of MINI production.

2. There have been many changes since the Cooper S was first introduced. To summarise pages of information into about 3 lines (if that's possible!)

2002-2004: Pre facelift 163 bhp supercharged Cooper S
2004-2006: Post facelift 170 bhp supercharged Cooper S
2006-now: Second generation 175 turbocharged Cooper S

There was nothing wrong with the 2002-2004 car, though the 2004-2006 car offers a lot of small improvements, if the funds can run to it. They are both highly tunable and robust, though the fuel economy can suffer if you use the performance

The supercharger is amazing, not only does it make a great noise, but the reaction is instant with none of the lag associated with turbos (though the fuel economy suffers!) The high point of Cooper S production so far, in my opinion.

2006 onwards car is a matter of taste. It's definitely more economical (by about 10-15%), more comfortable, quieter, safer and easier to drive, though the looks and driver feedback are the subject of much controversial debate and cost cutting is apparent. See and try one for yourself, then decide.

Look out for the "Works" version of any generation which will have 200 (02-04), 210 (04-06) or 211bhp (08 onwards).

Whatever you do, go and buy one; you'll love it and save a pile of cash in comparison to driving the LR!

Tigger.

beken · May 5th, 2008, 05:32 PM

Welcome, Sr-euro.

Best to go for a test drive. All MINIs have been fun with subtle changes over the years.
MINIs are highly customisable, limited only by the size of your wallet. Where I am, if you want black trim, there are many who do a great job blacking out the trim pieces and I'm sure there are other MINI enthusiasts all over who can do it also. It doesn't sound difficult to do it yourself.

Wishing you luck finding your MINI.

AprilWhine · May 6th, 2008, 05:07 AM

Hi and welcome! Any MINI you chose will be great, there are no bad choices available.

Darcy · May 6th, 2008, 04:20 PM

welcome

sr-euro · May 6th, 2008, 10:00 PM

thanks for the advice.. this seems to be a cool forum.
and i cant wait to get my mini!

May 4th, 2008, 05:39 PM	#1
sr-euro MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Local Time: 10:35 PM Posts: 2 Offline	I'm new I've been looking into getting a cooper s, but I still know nothing about the cars I have a few questions. What year cooper did best and should I look into (for performance)? I'm also looking into getting a grey w black trim, was that only available in the newer cooper? My reason for getting a mini is that I currently drive a LR (v8) and my wallet is constantly empty. And previously to the land rover I had a 325i E30 which I wholeheartedly miss and I need another better fuel efficient, faster car. thank you.

May 4th, 2008, 06:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo May '08: Bye bye Mini2... My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 11:35 PM Posts: 4,512 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sr-euro (original) I've been looking into getting a cooper s, but I still know nothing about the cars I have a few questions. What year cooper did best and should I look into (for performance)? I'm also looking into getting a grey w black trim, was that only available in the newer cooper? My reason for getting a mini is that I currently drive a LR (v8) and my wallet is constantly empty. And previously to the land rover I had a 325i E30 which I wholeheartedly miss and I need another better fuel efficient, faster car. thank you. To try and answer your questions: 1. Grey with black trim is available in all years of MINI production. 2. There have been many changes since the Cooper S was first introduced. To summarise pages of information into about 3 lines (if that's possible!) 2002-2004: Pre facelift 163 bhp supercharged Cooper S 2004-2006: Post facelift 170 bhp supercharged Cooper S 2006-now: Second generation 175 turbocharged Cooper S There was nothing wrong with the 2002-2004 car, though the 2004-2006 car offers a lot of small improvements, if the funds can run to it. They are both highly tunable and robust, though the fuel economy can suffer if you use the performance The supercharger is amazing, not only does it make a great noise, but the reaction is instant with none of the lag associated with turbos (though the fuel economy suffers!) The high point of Cooper S production so far, in my opinion. 2006 onwards car is a matter of taste. It's definitely more economical (by about 10-15%), more comfortable, quieter, safer and easier to drive, though the looks and driver feedback are the subject of much controversial debate and cost cutting is apparent. See and try one for yourself, then decide. Look out for the "Works" version of any generation which will have 200 (02-04), 210 (04-06) or 211bhp (08 onwards). Whatever you do, go and buy one; you'll love it and save a pile of cash in comparison to driving the LR! Tigger. May 08: Thanks to all of my friends on Mini2 for a lot of great times over the last 4 years. In future I can always be contacted here! Last edited by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo : May 4th, 2008 at 08:04 PM.

May 5th, 2008, 05:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
beken 05 MCS BEP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Delta, BC, Canada Local Time: 03:35 PM Posts: 1,174 Offline	Welcome, Sr-euro. Best to go for a test drive. All MINIs have been fun with subtle changes over the years. MINIs are highly customisable, limited only by the size of your wallet. Where I am, if you want black trim, there are many who do a great job blacking out the trim pieces and I'm sure there are other MINI enthusiasts all over who can do it also. It doesn't sound difficult to do it yourself. Wishing you luck finding your MINI. 05MCS BEP - Alta 22mm rear anti-swaybar, Madness CAI

May 6th, 2008, 05:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
AprilWhine Loves the Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Black Hills S Dakota Local Time: 04:35 PM Posts: 16,780 Offline	Hi and welcome! Any MINI you chose will be great, there are no bad choices available. Global Moderator

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