[tom-sanders]

Hi everyone.
Im in the process of buying a Mini Cooper S with JCW Kit.
How it possible to check that im acually gettting the full kit... Engine.. etc ..
Although the mini has got the works badge is there any other way to check???

thanks in advance!!!

tom

[MarkXR]

there should be a plaque on the top of the engine and a fitting certificate, lots of second hand jcw's have lost the cert tho

[tom-sanders]

thanks mark for the quick reply.
if the engine has got the plague does that mean its got the full kit?
Im getting it from a mini dealer but just wanted to be 100%..

[Bhozar]

I have seen those plaques for sale on eBay recently. The BMW dealership should be able to give you a full list of everything that has ever been done to the vehicle within the BMW network.

[MarkXR]

http://www.motoringfile.com/howto/JCW_MCS_install.pdf

Thats the MINI fitting instructions for the early 200BHP JCW Kit, the later 210 Kit had different injectors and the airbox. Visually parts you'll see
exterior badges (if fitted)
engine plaque
airbox with JCW badge (if its a 210bhp)
JCW Intercooler Cover
JCW Exhaust

the rest you really can't tell easily, one cylinder head looks pretty much like another to the untrained eye (definately me ). Howver all those visible parts could be fitted without the rest and as Bhozar says the engine plaques are turning up on eBay. Personally I feel it's a little early in the cars life for a lot of fakes being sold as the real thing but have no doubt that as the MINI's price drops fakes will become more common.

You best bet is to spaek with the dealer as Bhozar suggests or if you buying private/non BMW dealer get the JCW Plaque, registration and VIN numbers and I would think any MINI dealer would be able to tell you from those

[tom-sanders]

HI,
nice one. when i go and pick the car up on wednesday ill look out for those things.. thanks guys!
Anyways when is there a mini meet around the northampton area as i want to get out there asap!!!!!!

[Rakey]

Quote: Originally Posted by tom-sanders (original)

HI,
nice one. when i go and pick the car up on wednesday ill look out for those things.. thanks guys!
Anyways when is there a mini meet around the northampton area as i want to get out there asap!!!!!!

at 10.30 today

Then the Ball tonight

Next then its the Cotswolds in August

[tom-sanders]

i saw the one today bt i havent got my car yet !!! lol
You might see me at the cotswolds one.. have you got anymore details on it???

thanks

[Rakey]

Its in the regional forums

[Scrogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by tom-sanders (original)

How it possible to check that im acually gettting the full kit... Engine.. etc ..

As you are buying from a MINI dealership, ask them to give you a copy of the VZAR print-out. This will show you a full list of all the factory-fitted options.

If it's not on that list it will be a dealer-fitted kit, which means it could be missing the suspension and/or brakes (both of which are easy to check). Everything else is the same.

The fact that a MINI dealership is advertising the car as a JCW means it definitely is one, so you've nothing to worry about there.

[Scrogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bhozar (original)

The BMW dealership should be able to give you a full list of everything that has ever been done to the vehicle within the BMW network.

Only if the dealership that did the work put any details on. Mostly, it's just a list of visits with 'Service' or 'Bodyshop' etc as the reason.

[tom-sanders]

thanks guy for all of your time in answering these questions!!!
From what you have said i tihnk it has got the whole JCW kit in it! And its also from a mini dealer so all good!
Anyways whats everyones opinion on the JCW kit.. can you feel the diff between a normal cooper s and then one with the works kit in it??

thanks

[Scrogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by tom-sanders (original)

can you feel the diff between a normal cooper s and then one with the works kit in it??

And then some!

[tom-sanders]

o really because i have only been for a drive in the Cooper S JCW.
Sounds like im going to have a lot of fun when i get it on wednesday!!!

[Scrogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by tom-sanders (original)

Sounds like im going to have a lot of fun when i get it on wednesday!!!

So much fun!

Make sure you post some pictures when you collect it.

[tom-sanders]

dont worry as soon as i get that baby its gettin a full photo shoot!!!!!!
not long now!!!

[Scrogg]

In the meantime, what's the spec details?