[Darthbladerni]

Im going on a trip to england on the 20th June. Ferry from Belfast to Stranraer then driving to Leicester. Alot of petrol money there especially with England prices

[minibee]

start work 7.30 am

Car takes 15-20 min's 8.5 miles

Bus from my village 1 per hour to town and then from town to work 30 mins and then 25 walk to work,

would have to be at the bus stop by 5.30 am .

I need my car.

Neil

[Hyper Active]

Quote: Originally Posted by mister.t (original)

Never on any account would I stop driving - The day I hang up my keys is the day I wish to die thank you very much

Yes, that's exactly my sentiments as well .

[zyo]

I notice the News was asking if the increased costs would stop us using the car so much and if it was succeeding where various schemes to tempt us out of our cars have failed. I think that the Government would cac themselves if we stopped driving and paying the extortionate petrol bills.They don't appear to be doing anything at the moment and they seem to be leaving it as long as possible because all the while their percentageof the increased price is coining in millions.People always seem suprised that the big oil companies are trying to make big profits, that's ulimately why they are in business but the tax is ridiculous. You are taxed on your wage then the bit you have left pays for everything else including petrol for which you are taxed heavily again. I, like many people just put ten ,twenty or thirty quid in when I need to and at some point in the not too distant future it will get me as far as the end of the garage forecourt. I'm glad I have the R56 MCS from an mpg point of view but at this current moment in time I could do with a Dooper

[mooneymini]

Its so annoying that they are still planning on raising petrol tax by 2p again this autumn.
Thing its appauling along with charging loads extra on tax for cars built since 2001!

Me and my partner have lived with 1 car 99% of the time in the past 3 years and there is no problem at all, but just becuase we need at least 1 car and choose to have that 1 car as something a little bit special, I feel we are being penalised as if we are huge gas guzzling people.
It would end up being cheaper for us in many ways to spend the money we just spent on our cooper s to buy two small cars what with cheaper tax and petrol, but it wouldnt be any good for congestion and pollution etc...
I just hope it stops going up and comes back down sometime soon.

A big thing that the government doesnt take into consideration is that all the pollution caused from manufacturing new cars way outways the badness of huge engined 4x4's.
For all the new cars built, it adds to pollution and also causes cars to be scrapped which doesnt help with the worlds disposal problems.
So please Mr Brown - stop penalising people who arn't doing that much of a bad thing.


It cost almost £70 to fill up my last car - the main reason I sold it.

I think its

[*Vikki*]

This has got to effect the amount of people going on MINI runs surely? i for one havent gone on any for along time now as it just costs too much.

[Lorri]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chilli21 (original)

This has got to effect the amount of people going on MINI runs surely? i for one havent gone on any for along time now as it just costs too much.

We don't go on many now, and if we do it might only be half the run

[Goonery]

Buy a pre 2001 car, or something older than 25 years like this and you'd be laughing

[Martin L]

I'll pay as much as it takes.

The higher the better
It'll get more cars off the road

If you actually look at things a garage sells, petrol is still the cheapest liquid you can get there

[Roofas]

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L (original)

I'll pay as much as it takes.

The higher the better
It'll get more cars off the road

Have to agree - way too many cars on the road at the moment. It seems every household has 2 cars or more where I used to live which is fine if you park on your own driveway and not in front of your neighbours..........

[*Vikki*]

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L (original)

I'll pay as much as it takes.

The higher the better
It'll get more cars off the road

If you actually look at things a garage sells, petrol is still the cheapest liquid you can get there

gee thanks, i suppose its alright though if you have the ££ to buy nice new cars then a few pence on fuel wont make much difference. It effects the low earners, familys etc the poorest most i think

[Martin L]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chilli21 (original)

gee thanks, i suppose its alright though if you have the ££ to buy nice new cars then a few pence on fuel wont make much difference. It effects the low earners, familys etc the poorest most i think

Ok, this is a repeat of a discusion we had at work today....

Now lets go back 30 years or more when I was young. We had no car, in fact not a lot of the population had cars... you could play out in the street with no fear of getting run over and if you did have the privalege to have a car you'd never have problems finding a parking space.
I just wonder how we managed

Now let me think.....
I used to walk to school... shock horror
When I went to "big" school I caught the bus....

When we needed shopping we caught the bus....
When we went out we caught the tube....

Do you see a pattern,,,,

Nothing wrong with public transport I say

Petrol IMHO is not overpriced for the private consumer. High taxes is the correct way to reduce road usage.
I do fully empathise with the haulage firms though. The current government don't have the bottle to reduce or give a duty rebate to those haulage firms. They need to to help make our haulers competetive with those in Europe.

[specky001]

I live 6 miles from my work, 12 mile round trip, so 60 miles a week, i'm now cycling those 60 miles. We were discussing this today, i dont think the governement will really realise what they're doing unless everyone stopped buying fuel for a week, but that isnt gonna happen, but its going to reflect on everything, food prices will go up, everything will go up in price, this country is going downhill big style unless we get the tories into power In my opinion, think labour has had their chance. £300 a yr road tax for a Cooper s? yet a vw golf is free? i thought we were paying for the use of the roads in road tax, not the emissions

anyone up for big MINI slow convoy on m25?? lol

[rellik666]

There is no way I could afford to run a MCS in the UK now.

I agree with taxing emmissions but it does seem that the government is going the wrong way about it.....the keep taxing and yet not really offering a viable alternative!

It seems to be up to private companies do the job of research and development and not the government. And while there is still oil in the ground where is the motivation.

Maybe instead of penalising those who are already struggling and those that are just trying to enjoy life a bit......push the likes of Ford, GM ect to develop new tech......at least BMW are looking into hydrogen....even if it is a bit half hearted....and although I don't like the Prius and it is really not that great...it is a step.....where is the government encouragement?????

Driving really is a passion for a lot of people....and I really don't care if I fill my car up with water or petrol as long as I can drive it a bit spiritedly!

BTW it cost me $50 to put in 30 litres this morning! Thats about 25 quid!

[Tommo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L (original)

Ok, this is a repeat of a discusion we had at work today....

Now lets go back 30 years or more when I was young. We had no car, in fact not a lot of the population had cars... you could play out in the street with no fear of getting run over and if you did have the privalege to have a car you'd never have problems finding a parking space.
I just wonder how we managed

Now let me think.....
I used to walk to school... shock horror
When I went to "big" school I caught the bus....

When we needed shopping we caught the bus....
When we went out we caught the tube....

Do you see a pattern,,,,

Nothing wrong with public transport I say

Petrol IMHO is not overpriced for the private consumer. High taxes is the correct way to reduce road usage.
I do fully empathise with the haulage firms though. The current government don't have the bottle to reduce or give a duty rebate to those haulage firms. They need to to help make our haulers competetive with those in Europe.

Oh that's where we've been going wrong ? I'll leave my car at home today and take the tube for the 25 mile journey into Manchester. Oh wait a minute yeah that's right I live in the countryside outside London
And there's the problem, once again, the Government seems to think what works in London works everywhere else. You have half a chance of persuading people to use alternative transport if there is an alternative ! Why is that difficult to grasp, cretins.

[Dawn]

I voted never
i think its a case of if you want something bad enough then you sacfifice for it
if you smoke, cut down, what are cigarettes now days, £5 a pack? How much is an average bottle of wine £5?.. these are examples only ...
Its all things we enjoy ( although i dont smoke ), but get penalised for
If i have to resort to 'just unleaded' then so be it !
Nobody keeps my baby in the garage

[KPKalle]

Even living and working in a city like London, public transport is only really viable if you just have to make one or two tube/bus changes. Otherwise it can take more than an hour to travel a few miles. I know I did that for 15 years of my life. Not to mention the cost and overcrowding and delays And the heat in the summer

That's why, this time round, I chose to live and work outside the big smoke. But now public transport can't take me to my place of work - at least not without going a seriously long way around. So I'm reliant on my car. At whatever the price of fuel.

The lucky people are those who live and work in the same town/village. Or live just a few tube/bus stops away from their work in the city.

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L (original)

Petrol IMHO is not overpriced for the private consumer. High taxes is the correct way to reduce road usage.

Rubbish! The government should incentivise people to reduce their road usage not punish them

[Tombles]

I voted for £2 but purely because of my low mpg in my MCS JCW. I would have to change it for something more economical if prices were to get out of hand as i wouldn't like to stop driving.

[GARY GP]

well we are all paying towards a w@r! that's were a lot of our war duty or (taxes) are going don't go thinking any silly petitions or wagon blockade's will make any difference at all, if you challenge the (government pimps) your going too the Big House (hmp) or at a prison near YOU!!.. we all know! we are all been screwed but when does it stop!!..

[Darthbladerni]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chilli21 (original)

This has got to effect the amount of people going on MINI runs surely? i for one havent gone on any for along time now as it just costs too much.

There have been a few for me that I havent gone on for this reason.

Quote: Originally Posted by Chilli21 (original)

gee thanks, i suppose its alright though if you have the ££ to buy nice new cars then a few pence on fuel wont make much difference. It effects the low earners, familys etc the poorest most i think

Exactly, it isnt fair!!!!

Quote: Originally Posted by V 5ARY (original)

well we are all paying towards a w@r! that's were a lot of our war duty or (taxes) are going don't go thinking any silly petitions or wagon blockade's will make any difference at all, if you challenge the (government pimps) your going too the Big House (hmp) at a prison near YOU!!..

Petitions and blockades will do sweet F*** all and doing them and seeing no change to petrol prices will ****** people off who are under the impression they will work.

If only I was old to enough to just leave this country and go somewhere else.