Idiot Mini Driver JAILED!!! - with video

[Buffster Bird]

Although he got eight months, he'll be out in four. I used to work for the Prison Service calculating sentences and anyone sentenced to under 4 years only does half the sentence in prison less remand time and police custody time. He'll get a day off for spending it in the police station whilst he was being charged. The rest is served on licence outside.

[sav112]

If there was any justice he would get a ten year ban in which time he might actually grow up. The Car taken off him and re-registered under a new plate and sold with the proceeds going to a Children’s Hospital.

After the ten years he has to sit his driving test and only allowed to drive up to 1.2lt and be on probation for another five with the view any more dangerous driving and it’s a life ban.

[deanquartermaine]

Quote: Originally Posted by S8RAH (original)

Specky, Dean, keep your hair on lads!
I didn't say that every young driver in a MINI is an idiot or even that every idiot in a MINI is young, the youth of today, so touchy

My point is that there is a certain group of younger drivers who chose the most trendy cars just cos they are the latest craze then rag them everywhere much to the annoyance of other road users. It gives us sensible and loyal MINI owners a bad rep.I'll bet that older Pug 106, Clio & Saxo owners felt the same way some years ago.
I am sure that you are the most considerate and law abiding MINI drivers but the fact remains that there are a load of young drivers around who are not and this is why, and forgive me for pointing it out, younger drivers' insurance is so much more than insurance for us wrinklies.
Sorry, I meant no offence.

No offence taken!!

[Tommo]

Sorry but I have to defend the bikes point a bit and make a few other observations.

The thing with bikes is, that while I agree that (some) do those sorts of speeds most of us bikers are a dammed sight more carefull in our use of speed and the environment in which we do it. Not having a steel shell wrapped around you, seems to make you more aware of your own mortality

Plus the current bike test is now actually quite hard. And coupled with that the fact that you must be 21 to take the test for direct access and enable you to ride any bike means that the access to a truly quick bike is limited until most youngsters have more/some experience. Since this was introduced the number of riders killed in the first couple of years of riding has been cut by a significant percent.

Maybe this should be something that should be looked at with cars ? Although I agree that to tar all younger drivers with the same brush is unfair, there is a reason that insurance companies load the premiums of younger drivers with very little experience. The statistics paint their own picture ?

I think that the only way to make it safer and fairer for everyone is to make the test more comprehensive and more difficult. In many ways like the bike test. Make the test a multiple stage affair with increased driver training including some skid pan training, motorway training etc. How can the current test see you fit to drive with usually around ten to twenty hours training and then able to get onto motorways with no experience of them whatsoever ? Or the first time that most new drivers experience a slide is when it's actually happening and is usually too late ?

Really how many people take the test and then that's it I can drive. You see countless posts on here with, I modified my car with this so it does that better or these tyres have more grip than those etc and people will spend a small fortune doing all sorts to the car to make it better and quicker. How many have truthfully put their hand in a pocket and spent money on some further training to make them better ?

I will admit that maybe none of the points above would have stopped this cretin from driving like he did, and there will always be a small percentage of drivers like that. But by at least by trying to educate them before they get a licence, they may have more understanding of the dangers involved and some semblance of common sense may take over ?

[Paul]

To be honest, I've never had a car over take me on a dual at about 90, cut in front, go into a road side parking area and out again onto the road while maintaining a speed high enough to keep ahead of me going at 70. Happened only a matter of weeks ago with a biker.

Sorry, but I think that there's a fair share of idiots in cars and on bikes, but with bikers it often seems more extreme, maybe because around MK we have a lot fast roads where bikers seem to just go mental, frequently.

[Hugo]

That was a mistake After the guy in the VXR220 got done for doing 150mph! But it is idiotic on a single lane road!

I got 134mph out of 181bhp S with 163lb ft with a bit left in it! I've had a standard GP doing over 130mph changing from 4th into 5th could probably do 150mph! On a private airfield of course!

[Tommo]

The thing with idiot bikers though is they aren't usually around for long. It's like natural selection in action.
It's no wonder hospitals refer to us as "Donors"

[JerzyBondov]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

funny though, you all scorn and say how bad it is, ( and yes it is bad and silly but must be a bloody quick car to 130mph as my GTT260 tops out at 135 on an autobahn???)

BUT and its a big but

Motorbikes do this sort of driving and at higher speeds every day yet nobody seems to bat an eyelid as they are bikes.

Just food for thoight

Slightly surprised by your top speed with that power Ant - I'd blame it on a deceptive hill and a headwind - 260bhp should get you 150mph +, even with the Mini's brick aerodynamics.
Fastest I've had mine (220bhp or thereabouts) was 130mph at the Ring (Schwedenkreuz - hairy) and obviously that will be some way off top whack, so I reckon yours MUST go more than 135!

[airbusA346]

What a complete idiot!!

[RooniusMaximus]

Quote: Originally Posted by sav112 (original)

Your having a laugh surly! That speed on a country road smacks of the brainless brigade, As I said in my original post its got nothing to do with what age, just being an idiot period but because of his like that’s why you young drivers are paying mega insurance premiums.

He hits a patch of oil kills both himself and his girlfriend its chalked off as young driver with inexperience in a car that he plainly should not be driving so anyone else that age and class of car are branded high risks…………

Everyone in there day has been over the speed limit but not at this sort of speed on roads like that. He looks like he knows nothing about driving and pulled it off by blind luck. As I said just be thankful Mrs smith with the three kids in the people carrier were not coming round that blind corner on the other side!

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul (original)

No there isn't. Ever.

There may be times when it is less dangerous, but never, EVER safe.

As said, it certainly wasn't safe in that instance, but there are stretches of road where they're straight, smooth, have no junctions, blind bends or crests and, because you can see far enough ahead no people. If you do it only when these conditions are present then it certainly can be safe.

The problem in most instances is that people don't tend to use those criteria. Unfortunatley they pay no attention to the possibility of:

horses
pedestrians on road because there is no footpath
Tractors or slow moving traffic around the bext bend
Junctions
Mud on Road
the fact that country roads are often bumpy and can unsettle your car

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating it, and nor do I do it, but to say it's never safe is ridiculous. Does that mean it's not safe to do it on an Autobahn? Arguably it's less safe there because you have other road users most of the time - and you can never guarantee what anotehr driver will do.

Bear in mind that the only stretches of Autobahn that are derestricted are those that have no junctions joining or leaving so you won't have slow moving traffic - but that doesn't mean someone won't just pull out into your lane without seeing you.

For me, the great thing about the Mini is that it's fun to drive at a slower pace due to the way it handles. Our BMW is far quicker in a straight line. But straight line speed is not fun. For me I'd have more enjoyment out of traveling at 60 on a windy country road in our Mini than at 140 on an Autobahn in our Beemer.

[Paul]

Quote: Originally Posted by RooniusMaximus (original)

As said, it certainly wasn't safe in that instance, but there are stretches of road where they're straight, smooth, have no junctions, blind bends or crests and, because you can see far enough ahead no people. If you do it only when these conditions are present then it certainly can be safe.

The problem in most instances is that people don't tend to use those criteria. Unfortunatley they pay no attention to the possibility of:

horses
pedestrians on road because there is no footpath
Tractors or slow moving traffic around the bext bend
Junctions
Mud on Road
the fact that country roads are often bumpy and can unsettle your car

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating it, and nor do I do it, but to say it's never safe is ridiculous. Does that mean it's not safe to do it on an Autobahn? Arguably it's less safe there because you have other road users most of the time - and you can never guarantee what anotehr driver will do.

Bear in mind that the only stretches of Autobahn that are derestricted are those that have no junctions joining or leaving so you won't have slow moving traffic - but that doesn't mean someone won't just pull out into your lane without seeing you.

For me, the great thing about the Mini is that it's fun to drive at a slower pace due to the way it handles. Our BMW is far quicker in a straight line. But straight line speed is not fun. For me I'd have more enjoyment out of traveling at 60 on a windy country road in our Mini than at 140 on an Autobahn in our Beemer.

As long as you know EXACTLY what wildlife are around, that nobody is playing nearby, that farmers aren't going to pull out of fields, birds aren't going to dive at the car, animals aren't going to run out in front of you....

It's NEVER safe, maybe you could say less dangerous, but never safe, always illegal, and always stupid.

[ViscountCharles]

130mph+ is doable on the autobahn, mind-you.

Quote: Originally Posted by Buffster Bird (original)

Although he got eight months, he'll be out in four. I used to work for the Prison Service calculating sentences and anyone sentenced to under 4 years only does half the sentence in prison less remand time and police custody time. He'll get a day off for spending it in the police station whilst he was being charged. The rest is served on licence outside.

You're out of date. Prisoners now serve at most just half of whatever was announced however long it is (although I think that the "tariff" life sentences, where the judge says "at least X years", means that you serve the whole of those X years. Like you say, time off for days spent in custody before sentence (including any day/part day spent at the police station). then you have early release on home detention curfew - pretty much everyone in for a non-violent, non-sex crime will be getting released early on HDC. So it wouldn't surprise me if that chap is only in gaol for 2 and a half months.

[MINI-Morgan]

Who really cares how long he gets? he didnt actually hurt anyone and he will be paying for it by have a prison sentance on his record, no job, no house(if he has one now...). Nothing like one moment acting like a pratt to effect your life so much.

[m_cooke999]

******, shame he didnt crash the thing into a tree

[Saad]

Quote: Originally Posted by m_cooke999 (original)

******, shame he didnt crash the thing into a tree

Yeah shame... Let's just go hide outside prison on his release date and stab him...

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