Oversteer.....

[Weemann]

Ok, so i went to Tesco, midnight last night to get some food, dont want to make exucses but it was pretty greasy on the roads..... So i was going round a roundabout n i started to get a little bit of understeer, so i eased off as usual n then BANG it suddenly flipped the other way into huge oversteer.....at this point i was heading towards some railings and absolutely bricking it.....i countered it (little scandinavian flick i was thinking i might be able to pass it off as ) n then i pretty much ran out of space n lost control..... went straight into a kerb head on!!!!

Firstly has anyone else had 'oversteer' like this???

Secondly n more importantly i snapped the black lip underneath my new aerokit clean off! u know that bit that always scrapes on speed bumps?? is it needed for airflow n what not, am i gonna take off next time i go slightly quickly ??

Ian

[Paul]

In a FWD car, if you feel the back going, DO NOT let off the pedal, that was your first mistake.

If you want to invoke oversteer, one of the easiest ways is to go in a bit tight, a bit too quick for whatever road/conditions, then lift off. That'll pop the back out. You want to go steady with the throttle (unless it's private road/track play time) and pull yourself through it. What you experienced is known as lift of oversteer. Not fun when you don't mean it, can be great fun when you do.

No idea on the aerokit, but you wont fly or anything.

[Weemann]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul (original)

No idea on the aerokit, but you wont fly or anything.

yeah i mean i have had lift of oversteer plenty of times, like i do it on purpose to test the limits but damn, it just flipped in the other direction like turned bout 100 degrees... like u said not fun if u dont mean to...

[adam_Randell]

i dont have that bit on my aero kit! took it off coz it was annoying me!

i'd check you dont have flat spots on your front wheels too mate!

[Weemann]

well luckily......i currently have my original 15" hubcaps on which i tbh dont care about ..... but Adam u havent had any problems since that bit has disappeared... cos the only thing i i can think of is that induces drag on the front end at speed to keep the front down, so more grip etc etc????

[MattJCW]

There could have been diesel on the roundabout. I've had a couple of hairy moments with diesel. You usually need to do the opposite of what your brain is telling you to do!

[Paul]

^^^ I was just coming back to say that. I've hit diesel (or something similar) before on a roundabout and there's nothing much you can do until the slip stops apart from try to keep it "normal" and don't stare at dangerous objects such as cars, people, lampposts... (your brain is evil, and tends to get you to aim for what you're looking at, even if you don't mean to!).

[MattJCW]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul (original)

^^^ I was just coming back to say that. I've hit diesel (or something similar) before on a roundabout and there's nothing much you can do until the slip stops apart from try to keep it "normal" and don't stare at dangerous objects such as cars, people, lampposts... (your brain is evil, and tends to get you to aim for what you're looking at, even if you don't mean to!).

Yep been there, done that! I once looked at the curb of the roundabout whilst slipping on diesel - I ended up mounting the curb facing the opposite direction!! Luckily it wasn't a mini (so didn't matter too much ) with steel wheels!

[Haggi]

the mini aero kit is that in name only,

[Weemann]

haha yeah, u cant seem to help but focus on the bad things....ur kinda of going crap crap crap back end out n then woah those railings r coming at me at some pace.....n then when u get past them without incident n u look wher u actually going u realise ur 2 inches from a kerb n hav run outta space but stil doin 15-20mph...Sh*t

[Weemann]

Quote: Originally Posted by Haggi (original)

the mini aero kit is that in name only,

haha yeah i swear when they sold it to me it they said i would get new unparalleled levels of grip from downforce

[MattJCW]

Quote: Originally Posted by Weemann (original)

haha yeah i swear when they sold it to me it they said i would get new unparalleled levels of grip from downforce

They saw you coming!

[GP1904]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul (original)

^^^ I was just coming back to say that. I've hit diesel (or something similar) before on a roundabout and there's nothing much you can do until the slip stops apart from try to keep it "normal" and don't stare at dangerous objects such as cars, people, lampposts... (your brain is evil, and tends to get you to aim for what you're looking at, even if you don't mean to!).

On the track I've always been told to aim at the middle of a car that spins in front of you because it'll not be there when you actually get there, it seems to have worked so far.

[MattJCW]

Quote: Originally Posted by GP1904 (original)

On the track I've always been told to aim at the middle of a car that spins in front of you because it'll not be there when you actually get there, it seems to have worked so far.

I'll try that next time - I'll blame you if it goes wrong!!

[Paul]

Quote: Originally Posted by GP1904 (original)

On the track I've always been told to aim at the middle of a car that spins in front of you because it'll not be there when you actually get there, it seems to have worked so far.

Yes, but we're talking about when YOU'RE out of control, not someone or something around you.