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Old Sep 7th, 2012, 12:42 PM
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Bonded or Gasket sump seal?

Can anyone tell me if I can find out if my Mini 1.4 petrol second generation, came out of the factory with a bonded sump seal or the later gasket type.
The chassis number is WMWME32070TM47535
I assume someone can work out the build date, however when did they start using a gasket and not the bonding?
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Old Sep 7th, 2012, 02:15 PM
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I have put your chassis number into the BMW decoder and its says its a MINI ONE auto with N12 engine produced 08/2007
If you then go into the realoem.com parts site and enter the details for your car/engine it lists a separate sump gasket not sealant.
Thats all I can say.
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Old Sep 8th, 2012, 11:11 AM
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Thank you for the information, sorry I missed it at first.
I am not confident on forums as yet.

Just a little gray area its a manual and not an auto.

I have had a go on realoem.com and it says its a coupe. Its a hatch. I put the sump gasket part no in 11 13 7 565 928 AD01 06G4A
The results then got a little confusing with codes such as R56N and things. HELP!!!!

I have re-checked the vin code and it is correct TM47535
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Old Sep 8th, 2012, 01:01 PM
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The hatch used to be referred to as the coupe, and I think it still is in the US but now they have brought out a Coupe model is a bit confusing.
Yours is a coupe hatch
R56 is model designation for the MINI hatch generation 2 which yours is.
N12 is the engine type
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Old Sep 8th, 2012, 02:48 PM
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OK I think I have got it now.

I have followed your instructions carefully and finished with a list of vehicles (Part Cross-reference) is this proof that my car came off the production line with a gasket and not a bonded sump?.
I have to be sure as I am in dispute with a BMW dealer over a sump leak job they allegedly did.
He says it came out of the factory with a bonded sump and now it has a gasket fitted so it must have been replaced by them.
I am no expert, however it looked just the same to me after.
Would they have removed the bonding and fitted a gasket instead?
Whatever was done it certainly did not cure the leak, it was worse after.
Its not easy being a female driver.
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Old Sep 8th, 2012, 03:19 PM
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I can only go off the information thats available and that says it has a gasket.
I guess if the sump had have been bonded they would replace it with a proper gasket if the sump was ever removed as that might be considered a better repair, a gasket will take up any uneveness in the joining halves better, I tend to use a gasket and sealant.
If BMW say it was originally bonded but now has a gasket so it was replaced by them, then why didnt they do it properly, then it wouldnt be leaking?
Are we sure its the sump thats leaking and its not coming from somewhere else and running down the sump?
Whatever or however BMW did a repair that didnt work, then they should do it again, whats the dispute in that?
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I have totally lost all confidence in the dealer, they consistently hide behind the BMW logo and tell lie after lie. I have had the gasket replaced privately and the leak is no longer apparent. Proving that it was the gasket and they did not effect a satisfactory repair.
I suppose it has got a bit personal now.
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