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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old Oct 17th, 2012, 04:20 PM Thread Starter
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Hi everyone

i just bought my cooper jcw 2003 with navi and park sensor
i got the sound system without the Harman kardon upgrade. so the sound quality is very bad!

my question is:
will i have any problems with the park sensor or the navi if i change the headunit for a full system upgrade?

my second option was to change the speakers and add an amp to the stock head unit, but there is no RCA in the stock head unit. so what can i do ?

please help

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Hi everyone

i just bought my cooper jcw 2003 with navi and park sensor
i got the sound system without the Harman kardon upgrade. so the sound quality is very bad!
please help

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Youve got the one for deaf folk, thats standard.
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Tip of the day:
Use an iPod with some decent Sony earphones, that way you don't annoy your passengers.

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Haha!

yes i got the wrong system because im not deaf i like some nice loud and clear music!

the system i using at this moment is an iphone with some nice Bose headphones
but i really like to share the music with others ...

any ideas?
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How bad is the stereo? Mine is standard (I think) and sounds good. Minis are quality cars and I can't imagine them putting a sh*te sound system in. Perhaps yours is faulty.
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How bad the Sound is, is hard to tell, but one thing i know for sure
Is that the midrange 5.1/4 speaker are not Working proper , so i Think i Will try to replace the oem speakers with some from Rainbow audio,
And fleck you are right , it is quality made cars so the Sound shouldn't be That bad normally
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Perhaps its just the music thats bad? as you get older you find the stuff the youngsters listen gets on your nerves more and more
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You can add an amp to a headunit without RCA pre out's.
Many amp's have a speaker level input, which means you
connect the headunits speaker output wires to the amp.
It's not ideal in terms of sound quality, but it can be done.
By far the best solution is to purchase a better headunit with three
pre-outs. (sub, front & rear)
This will give you a better quality source signal for the amplifier
to amplify.
Hope this makes sense?
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As with any audio setup, your speakers (drivers and enclosures) will make the most dramatic impact in an audible difference in sound quality. If it were me, I'd be investing in them rather than the source equipment.
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As with any audio setup, your speakers (drivers and enclosures) will make the most dramatic impact in an audible difference in sound quality. If it were me, I'd be investing in them rather than the source equipment.

Sorry, but this is incorrect.
The speakers can only reproduce the signal that is sent to them.
If you have great speakers but a poor source and amplifier, then the speakers
will only be able to reproduce that poor signal.
The source needs to be able to feed the cleanest, most accurate signal,
to the amplifier.
This, in turn, need to be able to amplify this signal, without distortion
or colouration in order for the speaker to reproduce this signal for the
listener.
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what is in the harman kardon setup as i have it but its nothing special
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Adrian no need to apologise, but you're the one that is incorrect in this instance.

The speakers are the instruments which dictate the quality of sound that reaches our ears, and in this instance, as I previously mentioned, if the OP wanted to hear a truly discernable difference in sound then it should be his speaker drivers and enclosures that he/she should be upgrading in preference to the source.

You can try it for yourself if you don't believe me.

Play a 10k source through some 100 speakers, and then use a 100 source through some 10k speakers. I don't think I need to suggest what would sound better.
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your both kinda wrong

with a rubbish standard stereo comes rubbish speakers and with a good stereo you get good speakers its not one or another as you both are saying they are matched to suit each other ha ha just thought i would have my 10p worth
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your both kinda wrong

with a rubbish standard stereo comes rubbish speakers and with a good stereo you get good speakers its not one or another as you both are saying they are matched to suit each other ha ha just thought i would have my 10p worth
Kelv I love your post. What you are saying is that with whatever you purchase, whether it be speakers or source, then the partnering kit will be optimum?! LMFAO !! XD
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Kelv I love your post. What you are saying is that with whatever you purchase, whether it be speakers or source, then the partnering kit will be optimum?! LMFAO !! XD
yes mate its no good having 1000s worth of head unit and amp then running speakers that can not take the mid range or bass or a cheap head unit with powerful speakers it will always sound rubbish at high volume. always go for a good brand speaker and head unit like kenwood, alpine or pioneer. speakers i would buy focal or vibe same for amp
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