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Old Jan 3rd, 2014, 10:41 PM
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I can't decide, please help......

Ladies and Gents. I've got until tomorrow lunchtime to decide which one of two cars to buy and I'm torn between them.

They're totally different regarding age, price etc but I've driven them both and loved them both. So, what do you reckon - which one would you buy?

1) MCS 55plate, grey, pan sunroof, chilli and chrome pack, Harmon Kardon speakers, part leather, basic wheels 60K - £5000

2) MCS JCW 57plate, white, pan sunroof, chilli and chrome pack, full leather, Satnav, DVD, nice wheels 30K - £10000

Both are in great condition and both drive well and both with FSH. I'm not fussed about MPG. I know the JCW has that extra performance but the chances for me to get the top performance out of it will be limited. Is it worth double the rice of the 55 MCS?

Any advice will be much appreciated.
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Two different animals ...

Car #1 has a supercharged engine. You can bump up the 20-30bhp by having a 15% reduction pulley fitted.

Car #2 is not a true JCW (they weren't available until the 2009 model year) ... it's a MCS with a JCW Engine Tuning Kit. Lots of problems with the turbocharged engine.
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Both sound lush!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Caveman (original)
Car #1 has a supercharged engine. You can bump up the 20-30bhp by having a 15% reduction pulley fitted.

Car #2 is not a true JCW (they weren't available until the 2009 model year) ... it's a MCS with a JCW Engine Tuning Kit. Lots of problems with the turbocharged engine.

Thanks Caveman.

I've driven both this weekend and have told thrill decide tomorrow, I'm not going to be rushed - there's plenty out there to choose from.

Out of interest, what are the common problems with Car #2 ? And is the performance likely to be that much better than Car #1?
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Do some Googling ...

The N14 engine in the 2nd Gen MCS (R56) has had problems with timing chain tensioner. Also these engines have problems with carbon buildup ("coking") on the intake valves which necessitates "walnut blasting".

Car #2 (R56) has about 20 more horsepower than Car #1 (R53) but fitting a 15% reduction supercharger pulley to it will even out the horsepower.

The cars have two different characters ... Car #1 "raw" and Car #2 "refined". There's nothing like the whine of the supercharger in Car #1
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I'd take #car 1 and keep some money for possible repairs and some mods of course.. On top of that there isn't much depreciation possible anymore.

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