[KenL]

I know many of us on here have faults with our beloved MINIs but perhaps we should be thankful they are not made by VW.

From the BBC consumer programme Watchdog:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/report...subcat=vwcoils

My mate has a TT which broke down on him 2 weeks ago with this problem. He got a Golf courtesy car and when he asked when he would get his TT back fixed they couldn't tell him as there are so many cars affected the parts are on a long back order.

Perhaps I should be happy with my clunking tailgate and clicking steering wheel and not something like this

[profets]

the news about all those cars seems pretty bad. In canada, i've rarely heard of any vw problems affecting so many cars. i'm 21, and have had 3 volkswagens, a black 98 golf, '00 silver golf 2.0, and now i'm driving '01 rave green GTI VR6. i've never had any problems with any of the vw's i've had, which i am pretty happy about, especially with the brutal winters we go through over here. every car is going to have little bugs or problems here and there, but thats what warranties are for. i was surprised actually, last week i had a big crack in my windsheild, and becaues there was no evidence of an external force, it was replaced with a new one by vw, covered by warranty.

i love vw's, but would take a bmw over a vw any day. my brother (miniMan7) got his cooper S last fall, and you should see him try to keep up with me when we're flying around. our cars cost the exact same amount, and mine is loaded with much more luxury than his S. but if i ever had to choose one over the other, there is no way i could turn down a cooper S... unless its the new VW R32 (241hp, 6speed, 4wheel drive, w/18 inch wheels) - which we all know would run circles around the cooper S..

-profets

[MiniMan7]

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Originally posted by profets
...and you should see him try to keep up with me when we're flying around.

I don't know what he's talking about here!?

Last time we raced... it was him trying to keep up with me!

About the R32 running circles around the Mini, I can't argue against that.

[Willy]

The celebration of taking delivery of my MINI will be two-fold.

1) I am happy to get my MINI
2) I am happier to be parting with my basketcase VW

I can't wait until Friday

[Loui]

When i bought my mini last march one of my mates went out and bought a VW lupo GTI. Ive had a number of faults with my mini, and it has been back to the dealer a number of times, but saying that my mates has had a far from trouble free time with his lupo he actually had a very serious problem with part of the engine management system which had caused a problem with the electrics at one point he was using the brakes and the headlamp washers would pop out and spreay the front headlamps. Hes also had problems with leaks in the engine bay. Makes me glad i bought my mini ok ive had problems but no real serious ones and the dealers have been nothing but helpful

[Mini Cruiser]

my b/f has the Audi A3 1.8 Turbo Quattro, doh

Hes only had one prob with it, it had a flat spot he took it back and the air flow sensor had gone

[MiniMan7]

I don't think you guys have the right to start bashing VW just because of few of your friends have owned a VW that has had problems.

So because one of your friends VW has had a problem, means all VW's have problems!? Sure... all cars comes with their share problems that have to be sorted out, and some come problem free, it doesn't mean that every VW has problems?

Like my brother said, he has owned 3 VW's and has never had a problem. So don't start bashing VW just because your friend has had a problem with his?!

I hate to say it, but I have heard about more problems concerning Mini's than I have about VW's.

I own a Mini Cooper S, and my brother owns a VW GTI, and to be honest... I've been the one making constant trips to the dealership with the problems... not him.

So the next time you make a thread, think about which car company you bash because I definitly know VW should not be one of them.

[AprilWhine]

I have a VW TDI and a MINI, both are problem free. The VW is a much more solidly built car, it has none of the squeaks and rattles that are inherent to the MINI. But I live driving both of them.

[Loui]

Quote:

Originally posted by MiniMan7
I don't think you guys have the right to start bashing VW just because of few of your friends have owned a VW that has had problems.

So because one of your friends VW has had a problem, means all VW's have problems!? Sure... all cars comes with their share problems that have to be sorted out, and some come problem free, it doesn't mean that every VW has problems?

Like my brother said, he has owned 3 VW's and has never had a problem. So don't start bashing VW just because your friend has had a problem with his?!

I hate to say it, but I have heard about more problems concerning Mini's than I have about VW's.

I own a Mini Cooper S, and my brother owns a VW GTI, and to be honest... I've been the one making constant trips to the dealership with the problems... not him.

So the next time you make a thread, think about which car company you bash because I definitly know VW should not be one of them.

If u mean me im not bashing VW`s, my mom had a golf GTI cab and never had a problem with it. Before the Mini was launched i was thinking about a golf GTI but i fell in love with the mini. Even though ive had problem i would buy another tomorrow

[MiniMan7]

I was mainly concerning myself with KenL.

[Kinster]

You tell 'em kid

Quote:

Originally posted by MiniMan7
I was mainly concerning myself with KenL.

[MiniMan7]

Thanks Kinster...

[scott321172]

Well sorry to beat about the bush people but this is the biggest VW recall in the history of vehicle manufacturing.
It effects VW,Skoda,Seat,Audi. (Bentley? Ha)

To put it in to perspective this is worldwide. Ok so how many cars are affected? = 3.4 Million x4

A total of 13.6 Million cars need to be recalled now that is what you call hit the fan. I think a little confidence has been lost in the consumer for VW.

[KenL]

Quote:

Originally posted by MiniMan7
I don't think you guys have the right to start bashing VW just because of few of your friends have owned a VW that has had problems.

So because one of your friends VW has had a problem, means all VW's have problems!? Sure... all cars comes with their share problems that have to be sorted out, and some come problem free, it doesn't mean that every VW has problems?

Like my brother said, he has owned 3 VW's and has never had a problem. So don't start bashing VW just because your friend has had a problem with his?!

I hate to say it, but I have heard about more problems concerning Mini's than I have about VW's.

I own a Mini Cooper S, and my brother owns a VW GTI, and to be honest... I've been the one making constant trips to the dealership with the problems... not him.

So the next time you make a thread, think about which car company you bash because I definitly know VW should not be one of them.

KenL here

I wasn't bashing VW in particular. I was trying to bring to light that other brands of car that produce a quality product can have problems. Often there is much doom and gloom on MINI2 about problems with MINIs so when you see other company's cars having problems it maybe brings things into perspective that the MINI isn't so bad after all.

I'm sorry if I've touched a nerve with you it certasinly wasn't intentional.

Regards,
KenL

ps another friend of mine has a Passat Turbo Diesel and it is a fantastic car.

[scott321172]

Turbo Diesels are Ok from the VW Range. It is aimed at 1.4,1.6,1.8T,2.0, and W8 all these engines are subject to recall.
You didnt hit a nerve Ken L. Its just that you get people slating the mini's niggles and then VW have such a recall on this scale it makes you laugh what all the fuss is about after a minor probem like a door rattle.
These niggles should not be there on the mini but at least you dont have a car for up to two years waiting for a VW Golf Coil to be replaced as the waiting list is astronmical.

Cheers,
Stuart

[profets]

hey guys,

do you know if this recall is subject to VW's in europe? or worldwide?

i'm in canada, and know many people with different VW's and audis, that havent had any problems with their cars over the past 3-4 years...

i was speaking with a friend of mine who is the service manager at a nearby vw/audi dealership, but said they havent been notified of the problem.

it would be really brutal if all the vw's here needed to be recalled too.

-profets

hope my VR6 doesnt have any problems... i've pushed it like crazy for about 2 years now, and havent had any issues with it

[scott321172]

As far as i am aware. It is a worldwide issue.
Sorry for the bad news but i would get any VW's checked out as soon as possible. Just for particular petrol engines though. I am not to sure on the lot.

[profets]

"Should a failure occur, one cylinder will fail to provide power. This will result in unburnt fuel passing into the exhaust system; at this point the engine management warning light will be illuminated instructing the driver to drive to the nearest retailer"


i was actually reading into details about the issue, which makes me laugh, cause i didnt even realize, but it happened to me last year. my engine light came on one day, and when i called the dealership where i was (moved away for school), they had me bring it in a few days later. and i do remember when driving to the dealership that when i would accelerate, it felt like it wasnt at 100% power...
all i remember them telling me at the end of the day was that they found the problem, and had to replace a few parts, and it was fine., didnt give me any other details..

-profets

[Neil Curtis]

The problem affects only 1.8T, V5, V6 and W8 powerplants. The igntion coils are the problem items. The big problem VW have is that they cannot get the parts from the suppliers anywhere near fast enough. Anyone with this problem will be put into a hire vehicle until parts are sourced and fitted.

There is NOT a recall in place in the UK at the moment. This was incorrectly stated on teh Watchdog program. There will be a recall in a few months time when supply of coils has been improved. In the meanwhile, cars will continue to be repaired on a case by case basis.

There you go.

[sjbartnik]

Before I got my MINI I had an '01 Passat V6 which was an excellent car (and thankfully not subject to the current coil pack failures).

As for the current recall, it's all about a whole lot of bad coilpacks that VW got from one of their suppliers, Bremi. In the U.S. they are talking about 530,000 cars. Problem is these coil packs were used on the 1.8T engine, and VW/Audi use the 1.8T in LOTS of cars. New Beetle, Jetta, Golf, GTI, Passat, Audi A4, Audi TT. Also the same coilpacks were used on the VR6 engine (but not the Audi V6 used in the Passat) and on the W8 engine (very few of those around).

I wouldn't put this issue down as a black mark against VW quality, VW wound up getting substandard parts from a supplier. It's just unfortunate that it affected so many cars.

I certainly don't think you're any more likely to have a problem with VW than you are with MINI (coilpack problem excluded of course).