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Apial · Dec 9th, 2001, 05:43 PM

Ok, NO,NO,NO! Which means no.

R1 · Dec 9th, 2001, 05:58 PM

Despite the few problems, it hasn't detracted from the driving experience of the car. So my answer is YES I still like my MINI Cooper. Should have all the problems left fixed tomorrow...it's booked in at my dealers and they have been pretty good so far!!

Red Cooper · Dec 9th, 2001, 06:58 PM

I wish it would be that simple...

I like the MINI very much, but the whole experience of owning one from even before I had the car has been unnecessarily stressfull...

It certainly ruined the experience of owning my first new car and my opinion about BMW and their customer care...

Chip · Dec 9th, 2001, 07:51 PM

I am delighted with my Cooper

It is the first new car I have bought, waited 2 months for it and don't regret anything about the purchase. Trouble free so far except for poor fuel consumption but it is only 555 miles old (23mpg around town) so it needs time to loosen up a bit before I say anything......and anyway, I am in the best place possible if something does go wrong. I get to work with them everyday

Saw the 17" wheels for the first time this week, and wish I had waited 6 weeks longer, but then again, am glad I went for the 16" as the past 5 weeks ownership have been great fun. It turns heads and stands out......my kind of car totally

Silverstone · Dec 10th, 2001, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Red Cooper
I wish it would be that simple...

I like the MINI very much, but the whole experience of owning one from even before I had the car has been unnecessarily stressfull...

It certainly ruined the experience of owning my first new car and my opinion about BMW and their customer care...

RC- Try buying a new Alfa Romeo (I did) - I think you'll find it a much more stressful experience!

jcuthell · Dec 10th, 2001, 05:58 AM

Its not that I don't like my I do... but I thought I would like it more I don't whether it is the faults that are putting me off or what. I spent the whole summer driving a Yaris for my IAM test and at the moment I think possibly I liked that more. I was just expected to be overwhelmed by it and I am not but sure its a very nice car overall. I think the difference is the Yaris you were never in any doubt that there would be a problem but now I just expect my car to go wrong.

This may seem irrational I can't really put into words but I wish I was more overwhelmed by it. I must also admit generally the Yaris Auto felt quicker than my Steptronic and could return 48mpg with ac on at 70 compared with only 31.3 running in my Cooper carefully.

James

sweeny · Dec 10th, 2001, 08:50 AM

YES, - what a fantastic car!

Apial · Dec 10th, 2001, 03:04 PM

I have owned 2 brand new Alfas. They were brilliant fun. Italian cars have something passionate about them. Their temprement is also typically Italian. The electrics a little weak, but never the mechanicals. They used to say that when you bought an Alfa you only had to pay for the mechanical parts, the bodywork was free! The engines were always an aural delight. The cars stylish. Any faults were promptly fixed. The performance of their cars was always their strength and pulling to the left was never an issue.

Anyway what Alfa do and MINI do is not the issue. I can only judge a car by the ones that I have driven. The MINIs that I have owned have consistently been built to the same quality, ie unacceptable.

If MINI put a better engine in the bay, tuned up the exhaust note, and fixed the steering pull, the latter most definately,I would happily praise all the other good points of the MINI. Until then I will continue to go around in circles.

pbraun · Dec 10th, 2001, 04:24 PM

I am very happy with the Minis I have owned. I can't wait to get my new MINI...... sure I will be extremely happy with that one, too!

The eternal optomist!

LMB · Dec 10th, 2001, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pbraun
The eternal optomist!

Me too

LMB

lightbody · Dec 11th, 2001, 04:43 AM

LOVE IT TO BITS!

Its the best car I've ever driven (let alone owned) by a really long margin.

kjs · Dec 11th, 2001, 07:35 AM

am very happy with my Cooper but, jeez, this site makes me sooooooo depressed!

kjs

Basil · Dec 12th, 2001, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dinger

Exactly the same as I said LMB on a previous thread. and got another member on here thinking I wanted to start a trade union.

It is a very good car indeed.

Blimey, that "union" remark of mine has stuck in your mind hasn't it.....well if it makes up for my remarks I'm trying to help redress the situation.......take a look if you havn't already...

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...&threadid=2730

PS. No offence was meant by my comments, just afraid of a few overreactions spoiling it for the masses. i do have an not inconsiderable financial interest in the matter....

LMB · Dec 20th, 2001, 10:51 PM

What can I say; 87% of Mini owners are happy with their car

Hopefully I will increase that a bit when I get mine

LMB

jomini · Feb 24th, 2002, 09:02 AM

After four weeks and 3000 km (one week in service to sort out drown body controller / water leak) I am still amazed by the car. Pure fun!

I'm just sorting out, if I can afford driving 3000 km in one month - I have doubts

- will post a own thread/poll about fuel consumption.

j.

Apial · Feb 24th, 2002, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LMB
What can I say; 87% of Mini owners are happy with their car

Hopefully I will increase that a bit when I get mine

LMB

Sorry LMB, it looks like you have forgotten to vote, and I suspect that it will not be entirely as you hoped when you do.

dcfkan · Feb 24th, 2002, 07:10 PM

After nearly 600 miles in a week, so far so good!

DK

LMB · Feb 24th, 2002, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Apial

Sorry LMB, it looks like you have forgotten to vote, and I suspect that it will not be entirely as you hoped when you do.

I did as well

Am I happy with my Mini?...I would have to say Yes. Whilst I have had my days when I wish I had never bought the thing, the majority of the time I love the car.

To me the Mini is a love/hate relationship. The design of the car is absolutely spot on. I have spent several weekends test-driving various rivals just to see how they compare to my Mini. But nothing has come close.

However, I hate it when I spot faults with the car no matter how minor. Especially as most of them are due to sloppy workmanship. But what can you do, it seems the majority of people are in the same boat. In fact I don't recon there is *one* Mini out there that has not had one fault or another. Finding a fault free Mini is like searching for the wholly grail

But BMW are lucky because the car has this hypnotic charm to it that makes you forget it all once you start driving.

LMB

orie's_mini · Feb 25th, 2002, 03:31 AM

LOVE IT!!!!! it's definitely a fun car and that's what i wanted.

did more than 1,000km this weekend to Ticino and all systems go! no left pull, etc. but definitely bumpy ride on certain not so smooth highways. glad i didnt opt for the SS+ suspension

ricardo · Feb 25th, 2002, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LMB
...I don't recon there is *one* Mini out there that has not had one fault or another. Finding a fault free Mini is like searching for the wholly grail

Mine has the following "faults":-

1) Rear wiper arc doesn't quite reach the top of the glass
2) Greasy smudge still appearing on osf door glass

So insignificant that I would class the vehicle as fault free. So they can build 'em right in Oxford.

By the way, I've started compiling a MINI faults database. This lists every MINI-owning MINI2 member that has posted details on the site, together with any faults they've mentioned and the build date and spec of the car. Over 100 cars listed so far. Hope to finish it this week and will then provide more details and see if the results can be published in some useful format.

PS. I have entered this project in the Anorak of the Year competition and am confident of 1st place.

Dec 9th, 2001, 05:43 PM	#21
Apial MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Lincolnshire Wolds Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 819 Offline	Ok, NO,NO,NO! Which means no. Balloons? http://www.loony-balloony.co.uk

Dec 9th, 2001, 05:58 PM	#22 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 4,866 Offline	Happy..but even more tomorrow Despite the few problems, it hasn't detracted from the driving experience of the car. So my answer is YES I still like my MINI Cooper. Should have all the problems left fixed tomorrow...it's booked in at my dealers and they have been pretty good so far!!

Dec 10th, 2001, 03:13 AM	#25 (permalink)
Silverstone MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Silverstone Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 149 Offline	You think MINI is Bad? Quote: Originally posted by Red Cooper I wish it would be that simple... I like the MINI very much, but the whole experience of owning one from even before I had the car has been unnecessarily stressfull... It certainly ruined the experience of owning my first new car and my opinion about BMW and their customer care... RC- Try buying a new Alfa Romeo (I did) - I think you'll find it a much more stressful experience! Cooper Chili - Silk Green & Black, Climate Contol, Heated Jets, ASC+T, Alarm Arrived Nov 30 - Love it to bits

Dec 10th, 2001, 08:50 AM	#27 (permalink)
sweeny MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 53 Offline	YES, - what a fantastic car! Finally here - not stopped smiling yet!

Dec 10th, 2001, 03:04 PM	#28 (permalink)
Apial MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Lincolnshire Wolds Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 819 Offline	I have owned 2 brand new Alfas. They were brilliant fun. Italian cars have something passionate about them. Their temprement is also typically Italian. The electrics a little weak, but never the mechanicals. They used to say that when you bought an Alfa you only had to pay for the mechanical parts, the bodywork was free! The engines were always an aural delight. The cars stylish. Any faults were promptly fixed. The performance of their cars was always their strength and pulling to the left was never an issue. Anyway what Alfa do and MINI do is not the issue. I can only judge a car by the ones that I have driven. The MINIs that I have owned have consistently been built to the same quality, ie unacceptable. If MINI put a better engine in the bay, tuned up the exhaust note, and fixed the steering pull, the latter most definately,I would happily praise all the other good points of the MINI. Until then I will continue to go around in circles. Balloons? http://www.loony-balloony.co.uk

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Dec 9th, 2001, 06:58 PM	#23 (permalink)
Red Cooper Master of Disaster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Auburn Hills, MI Local Time: 06:54 PM Posts: 571 Offline	I wish it would be that simple... I like the MINI very much, but the whole experience of owning one from even before I had the car has been unnecessarily stressfull... It certainly ruined the experience of owning my first new car and my opinion about BMW and their customer care...

Dec 9th, 2001, 07:51 PM	#24 (permalink)
Chip MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Merseyside Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 171 Offline	I am delighted with my Cooper It is the first new car I have bought, waited 2 months for it and don't regret anything about the purchase. Trouble free so far except for poor fuel consumption but it is only 555 miles old (23mpg around town) so it needs time to loosen up a bit before I say anything......and anyway, I am in the best place possible if something does go wrong. I get to work with them everyday Saw the 17" wheels for the first time this week, and wish I had waited 6 weeks longer, but then again, am glad I went for the 16" as the past 5 weeks ownership have been great fun. It turns heads and stands out......my kind of car totally

Dec 10th, 2001, 05:58 AM	#26 (permalink)
jcuthell MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Essex Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 279 Offline	Its not that I don't like my I do... but I thought I would like it more I don't whether it is the faults that are putting me off or what. I spent the whole summer driving a Yaris for my IAM test and at the moment I think possibly I liked that more. I was just expected to be overwhelmed by it and I am not but sure its a very nice car overall. I think the difference is the Yaris you were never in any doubt that there would be a problem but now I just expect my car to go wrong. This may seem irrational I can't really put into words but I wish I was more overwhelmed by it. I must also admit generally the Yaris Auto felt quicker than my Steptronic and could return 48mpg with ac on at 70 compared with only 31.3 running in my Cooper carefully. James

Dec 10th, 2001, 04:24 PM	#29 (permalink)
pbraun Summer Splasher Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: in or near my MINI Local Time: 08:54 PM Posts: 666 Offline	Are you happy with your Mini? I am very happy with the Minis I have owned. I can't wait to get my new MINI...... sure I will be extremely happy with that one, too! The eternal optomist! Ride on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4l65QGCGzY BLOG: http://peterbraunblog.wordpress.com

Dec 10th, 2001, 05:14 PM	#30 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 23,727 Offline	Re: Are you happy with your Mini? Quote: Originally posted by pbraun The eternal optomist! Me too LMB Global Moderator

Dec 11th, 2001, 04:43 AM	#31 (permalink)
lightbody MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 888 Offline	LOVE IT TO BITS! Its the best car I've ever driven (let alone owned) by a really long margin. Rob Lightbody - http://www.roblightbody.com 2004 Red/Black Cooper replaced a 2001 BRG/White Cooper

Dec 11th, 2001, 07:35 AM	#32 (permalink)
kjs MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dreaming Spires, Oxf Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 334 Offline	am very happy with my Cooper but, jeez, this site makes me sooooooo depressed! kjs

Dec 12th, 2001, 06:31 AM	#33 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:54 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	*Newsflash*** Quote: Originally posted by dinger Exactly the same as I said LMB on a previous thread. and got another member on here thinking I wanted to start a trade union. It is a very good car indeed. Blimey, that "union" remark of mine has stuck in your mind hasn't it.....well if it makes up for my remarks I'm trying to help redress the situation.......take a look if you havn't already... http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...&threadid=2730 PS. No offence was meant by my comments, just afraid of a few overreactions spoiling it for the masses. i do have an not inconsiderable financial interest in the matter....

Dec 20th, 2001, 10:51 PM	#34 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 23,727 Offline	What can I say; 87% of Mini owners are happy with their car Hopefully I will increase that a bit when I get mine LMB Global Moderator

Feb 24th, 2002, 09:02 AM	#35 (permalink)
jomini MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 16 Offline	After four weeks and 3000 km (one week in service to sort out drown body controller / water leak) I am still amazed by the car. Pure fun! I'm just sorting out, if I can afford driving 3000 km in one month - I have doubts - will post a own thread/poll about fuel consumption. j. jomini IndieBlueWhite Chilli Cooper, Panther black, aircon, multifunctional steering wheel, BC, CD Changer, Dunlop Runflats on silver 16" FiveStars, SSP+, heated jets

Feb 24th, 2002, 07:05 PM	#36 (permalink)
Apial MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Lincolnshire Wolds Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 819 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by LMB What can I say; 87% of Mini owners are happy with their car Hopefully I will increase that a bit when I get mine LMB Sorry LMB, it looks like you have forgotten to vote, and I suspect that it will not be entirely as you hoped when you do. Balloons? http://www.loony-balloony.co.uk

Feb 24th, 2002, 07:10 PM	#37 (permalink)
dcfkan In exile, down SOUTH! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: London WC1 Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 13,213 Offline	After nearly 600 miles in a week, so far so good! DK

Feb 24th, 2002, 09:10 PM	#38 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 23,727 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Apial Sorry LMB, it looks like you have forgotten to vote, and I suspect that it will not be entirely as you hoped when you do. I did as well Am I happy with my Mini?...I would have to say Yes. Whilst I have had my days when I wish I had never bought the thing, the majority of the time I love the car. To me the Mini is a love/hate relationship. The design of the car is absolutely spot on. I have spent several weekends test-driving various rivals just to see how they compare to my Mini. But nothing has come close. However, I hate it when I spot faults with the car no matter how minor. Especially as most of them are due to sloppy workmanship. But what can you do, it seems the majority of people are in the same boat. In fact I don't recon there is one Mini out there that has not had one fault or another. Finding a fault free Mini is like searching for the wholly grail But BMW are lucky because the car has this hypnotic charm to it that makes you forget it all once you start driving. LMB Global Moderator

Feb 25th, 2002, 03:31 AM	#39 (permalink)
orie's_mini MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Switzerland Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 48 Offline	LOVE IT!!!!! it's definitely a fun car and that's what i wanted. did more than 1,000km this weekend to Ticino and all systems go! no left pull, etc. but definitely bumpy ride on certain not so smooth highways. glad i didnt opt for the SS+ suspension "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take."

Feb 25th, 2002, 03:21 PM	#40 (permalink)
ricardo MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Norfolk Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 546 Offline	Fault free MINI? Quote: Originally posted by LMB *...I don't recon there is one* Mini out there that has not had one fault or another. Finding a fault free Mini is like searching for the wholly grail** Mine has the following "faults":- 1) Rear wiper arc doesn't quite reach the top of the glass 2) Greasy smudge still appearing on osf door glass So insignificant that I would class the vehicle as fault free. So they can build 'em right in Oxford. By the way, I've started compiling a MINI faults database. This lists every MINI-owning MINI2 member that has posted details on the site, together with any faults they've mentioned and the build date and spec of the car. Over 100 cars listed so far. Hope to finish it this week and will then provide more details and see if the results can be published in some useful format. PS. I have entered this project in the Anorak of the Year competition and am confident of 1st place. Last edited by ricardo : Feb 25th, 2002 at 03:26 PM.

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