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MiniCool · May 18th, 2003, 03:26 AM

with the new minis, you can open the windows and the sun roofs with the open buton on the remote control, but you can not close them with the Remote Control,

so would like to know if it is possible to get this changed and make the locking button clsoe the windows and sunroof?
can it be re-programmed?,

thanks

MiniCool

KenL · May 18th, 2003, 03:33 AM

Not possible I'm afraid due to safety reasons apparantly. I asked to have it done but it wasn't possible.

Did you know you can close windows/sunroof with the key in the door?

MiniCool · May 18th, 2003, 03:37 AM

safety reasons?
can you explain? is it possible to do it with a non mini garage?

would it be a hard thing to re-programme?

MiniCool

BartMack · May 18th, 2003, 05:50 AM

That would be a popular request I'm sure. I'd do it.
I found I can close both windows at once by putting my index finger on the passenger toggle & stretching my little finger to the driver toggle. Including the sunroof in that game of twister is another story!

My MINI cd said to push the central lock up & hold to close all, but it no workie.

EBMCS03 · May 18th, 2003, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MiniCool
safety reasons?
can you explain?

Its so u wont be holding the button on the remote to close your windows while walking away with someones hand/finger in your window and u dont know it and crushing them. While as if u were closing them with the key u can see all the activity aroudn your car. With that said I still like to close my windows with they remote.

dco43054 · May 18th, 2003, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MiniCool
...would it be a hard thing to re-programme?...

As things stand now, it is not possible to reprogram. MINI/BMW does not allow owner access to change options, and this is not even an option.

Further, there are several non-U.S. options, like one touch up for the windows, that we can't get due to perceived safety/liability issues in the U.S.

To do a "convenience closing" would require reprogramming the BC1 (main body computer). Not something that MINI gives access to.

Regards,

Dave

cooper4us · May 18th, 2003, 09:39 PM

Any savvy technician with good working knowledge of German car's engine computer management systems and the proper computer tools might be able to access some of the programmable functions in the BC1 module.

Remember that the electronics in the MINI were developed by Siemens.

jmusicman · May 19th, 2003, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dco43054

Further, there are several non-U.S. options, like one touch up for the windows, that we can't get due to perceived safety/liability issues in the U.S.

This is nonsense. They have one-touch closing in BMW models... why not MINI models?? There is NO good excuse for the lack of one-touch up... The majority of new car models in the US are adding this feature... and MINI is being left behind....

Paul · May 19th, 2003, 04:35 PM

I don't think you can have one-touch up on BOTH windows in any country, only on the drivers side.

The MINI doesn't have any kind of sensor to check if something is obscuring the window closing (I assume to reduce costs), so they have to cover themselves by not offering it.

If they would spend some cash on a sensor, then I don't see why they couldn't allow us this option. It's frustrating not to have it.

Prowse · May 19th, 2003, 04:42 PM

I think that some BMW's will have automatic window closing, but the MINI does not, here's why: The MINI does not have the safety mechanism found in 'proper' BMW's that detects resistance against a closing window... With your drivers window fully open, start closing the window and then press down lightly on the glass (DO NOT GET YOUR HAND STUCK IN THE DAMN WINDOW). The mechaism will continue to push the window up. On a BMW the safety device they are fitted with will detect the obstruction or resistance and reverse the window winding motor, so you can't get anything stuck in it.

The MINI is a 'cheap' car for BMW, they had to make the cut-backs somewhere I guess!

Paul · May 19th, 2003, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prowse
I think that some BMW's will have automatic window closing, but the MINI does not, here's why: The MINI does not have the safety mechanism found in 'proper' BMW's that detects resistance against a closing window... With your drivers window fully open, start closing the window and then press down lightly on the glass (DO NOT GET YOUR HAND STUCK IN THE DAMN WINDOW). The mechaism will continue to push the window up. On a BMW the safety device they are fitted with will detect the obstruction or resistance and reverse the window winding motor, so you can't get anything stuck in it.

The MINI is a 'cheap' car for BMW, they had to make the cut-backs somewhere I guess!

Beat you to it by seven minutes.

Prowse · May 19th, 2003, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Mullett
Beat you to it by seven minutes.

Paul · May 19th, 2003, 04:52 PM

But at least we agree, BMW seem to simply be being cheap on this one.

jmusicman · May 20th, 2003, 05:18 AM

Cheap is right Paul!

volkswagon offers this feature here in the US (ALL WINDOWS)! I currently have a VW, and am going to be losing some of those little features we all love.... (not that its not worth losing them for the fun factor).... but there is no reason BMW cannot simply do this....

Jay

SteveBrass · May 20th, 2003, 03:27 PM

It is a bit of a pain - but get on the open road and the pain goes away.

rocketpop · May 20th, 2003, 07:58 PM

In my BMW I have one touch up on both my front windows.

KPTech · May 31st, 2004, 03:06 PM

Is anyone still interested in trying to find a way to raise the windows using the OEM remote? It would definately be a nice feature to have.

Kevin

HoG · May 31st, 2004, 03:43 PM

It is a head ache. My brother has a bmw 330CI, Both his windows go up and down either by remote or door so its oviously just lazyness on behalf of Mini/BMW.

fergusor · Jun 1st, 2004, 03:28 PM

When I try and use the convenience feature I have to stand dead still and continually hold the button down... if I let go the windows and sunroof stop opening. I like the idea of the feature but I'd prefer not to have to hold the button down continuously!!

Richard.

huntmdwn · Jun 1st, 2004, 11:03 PM

Hi, I'm new here but I am a member at the BMW forum since I currently own a 2003 325i. I know that this question has been brought up many many times at our forum and I have 2 things to share.

1) You cannot close your windows and sunroof with the remote as that is not an option at all. ( I believe it is only available in some European countries and our cars (US) do not have the Euro spec.)

2) In my BMW all FOUR of the windows convenience close...Look into it at your dealer, I'm sure you'll find one that is willing to help.

I look forward to posting here for a while as I am interested in a MC.

Hunter

May 18th, 2003, 03:26 AM	#1
MiniCool MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Uk Local Time: 01:17 AM Posts: 87 Offline	Comfort Opening and Closing with the new minis, you can open the windows and the sun roofs with the open buton on the remote control, but you can not close them with the Remote Control, so would like to know if it is possible to get this changed and make the locking button clsoe the windows and sunroof? can it be re-programmed?, thanks MiniCool

May 18th, 2003, 03:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 12:17 AM Posts: 5,102 Offline	Not possible I'm afraid due to safety reasons apparantly. I asked to have it done but it wasn't possible. Did you know you can close windows/sunroof with the key in the door? Red/Black R56 Cooper

May 18th, 2003, 06:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
EBMCS03 M5 Extraordinare! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: So Cal Local Time: 05:17 PM Posts: 6,768 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by MiniCool safety reasons? can you explain? Its so u wont be holding the button on the remote to close your windows while walking away with someones hand/finger in your window and u dont know it and crushing them. While as if u were closing them with the key u can see all the activity aroudn your car. With that said I still like to close my windows with they remote. EB/W MCS Arrived (3/26/03) SOLD 4/25/06

May 18th, 2003, 08:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
dco43054 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Local Time: 07:17 PM Posts: 646 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by MiniCool ...would it be a hard thing to re-programme?... As things stand now, it is not possible to reprogram. MINI/BMW does not allow owner access to change options, and this is not even an option. Further, there are several non-U.S. options, like one touch up for the windows, that we can't get due to perceived safety/liability issues in the U.S. To do a "convenience closing" would require reprogramming the BC1 (main body computer). Not something that MINI gives access to. Regards, Dave Gotten anything useful from MINI2? How about giving a little something back? '03 MCS BRG/W Anthracite Pkg 1,2,3

May 18th, 2003, 09:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 07:17 PM Posts: 1,423 Offline	Any savvy technician with good working knowledge of German car's engine computer management systems and the proper computer tools might be able to access some of the programmable functions in the BC1 module. Remember that the electronics in the MINI were developed by Siemens. '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

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May 18th, 2003, 03:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
MiniCool MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Uk Local Time: 01:17 AM Posts: 87 Offline	safety reasons? can you explain? is it possible to do it with a non mini garage? would it be a hard thing to re-programme? MiniCool

May 18th, 2003, 05:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
BartMack #1647 of 1960 Join Date: May 2003 Location: RS60ville Local Time: 08:17 PM Posts: 3,373 Offline	That would be a popular request I'm sure. I'd do it. I found I can close both windows at once by putting my index finger on the passenger toggle & stretching my little finger to the driver toggle. Including the sunroof in that game of twister is another story! My MINI cd said to push the central lock up & hold to close all, but it no workie.

May 19th, 2003, 11:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
jmusicman MINI2 Stalker Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Local Time: 08:17 PM Posts: 97 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by dco43054 Further, there are several non-U.S. options, like one touch up for the windows, that we can't get due to perceived safety/liability issues in the U.S. This is nonsense. They have one-touch closing in BMW models... why not MINI models?? There is NO good excuse for the lack of one-touch up... The majority of new car models in the US are adding this feature... and MINI is being left behind.... 2004 DS/B MCS Lapis Blue Leather Prem, DSC, Xeon,H/K Finished on Sept 12, 2003 (At Dealer NOW!)

May 19th, 2003, 04:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:17 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	I don't think you can have one-touch up on BOTH windows in any country, only on the drivers side. The MINI doesn't have any kind of sensor to check if something is obscuring the window closing (I assume to reduce costs), so they have to cover themselves by not offering it. If they would spend some cash on a sensor, then I don't see why they couldn't allow us this option. It's frustrating not to have it. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

May 19th, 2003, 04:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
Prowse MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lancs Local Time: 12:17 AM Posts: 1,550 Offline	I think that some BMW's will have automatic window closing, but the MINI does not, here's why: The MINI does not have the safety mechanism found in 'proper' BMW's that detects resistance against a closing window... With your drivers window fully open, start closing the window and then press down lightly on the glass (DO NOT GET YOUR HAND STUCK IN THE DAMN WINDOW). The mechaism will continue to push the window up. On a BMW the safety device they are fitted with will detect the obstruction or resistance and reverse the window winding motor, so you can't get anything stuck in it. The MINI is a 'cheap' car for BMW, they had to make the cut-backs somewhere I guess!

May 19th, 2003, 04:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:17 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Prowse I think that some BMW's will have automatic window closing, but the MINI does not, here's why: The MINI does not have the safety mechanism found in 'proper' BMW's that detects resistance against a closing window... With your drivers window fully open, start closing the window and then press down lightly on the glass (DO NOT GET YOUR HAND STUCK IN THE DAMN WINDOW). The mechaism will continue to push the window up. On a BMW the safety device they are fitted with will detect the obstruction or resistance and reverse the window winding motor, so you can't get anything stuck in it. The MINI is a 'cheap' car for BMW, they had to make the cut-backs somewhere I guess! Beat you to it by seven minutes. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

May 19th, 2003, 04:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
Prowse MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lancs Local Time: 12:17 AM Posts: 1,550 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Paul Mullett Beat you to it by seven minutes.

May 19th, 2003, 04:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:17 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	But at least we agree, BMW seem to simply be being cheap on this one. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

May 20th, 2003, 05:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
jmusicman MINI2 Stalker Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Local Time: 08:17 PM Posts: 97 Offline	Cheap is right Paul! volkswagon offers this feature here in the US (ALL WINDOWS)! I currently have a VW, and am going to be losing some of those little features we all love.... (not that its not worth losing them for the fun factor).... but there is no reason BMW cannot simply do this.... Jay 2004 DS/B MCS Lapis Blue Leather Prem, DSC, Xeon,H/K Finished on Sept 12, 2003 (At Dealer NOW!)

May 20th, 2003, 07:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
rocketpop MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dallas,TX Local Time: 07:17 PM Posts: 70 Offline	In my BMW I have one touch up on both my front windows. MCS DS/W black leather Premium package (bonnet strips, sun roof, OBC, MFSW) Sport Package (DSC, 17' S-Lites, Zenon, Fog lamps) HK. Madness Intake Borla Exhaust OZ Racing Prodrive P1's

May 20th, 2003, 03:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
SteveBrass MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: staffordshire (not a Local Time: 12:17 AM Posts: 383 Offline	It is a bit of a pain - but get on the open road and the pain goes away. R56 AB Cooper

May 31st, 2004, 03:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
KPTech MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dayton, Oh Local Time: 08:17 PM Posts: 20 Offline	Is anyone still interested in trying to find a way to raise the windows using the OEM remote? It would definately be a nice feature to have. Kevin

May 31st, 2004, 03:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
HoG 1 + 2 = 3 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Ireland Local Time: 01:17 AM Posts: 103 Offline	It is a head ache. My brother has a bmw 330CI, Both his windows go up and down either by remote or door so its oviously just lazyness on behalf of Mini/BMW.

Jun 1st, 2004, 03:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
fergusor MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chesterfield Local Time: 01:17 AM Posts: 420 Offline	When I try and use the convenience feature I have to stand dead still and continually hold the button down... if I let go the windows and sunroof stop opening. I like the idea of the feature but I'd prefer not to have to hold the button down continuously!! Richard.

Jun 1st, 2004, 11:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
huntmdwn MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Louisiana Local Time: 06:17 PM Posts: 97 Offline	Hi, I'm new here but I am a member at the BMW forum since I currently own a 2003 325i. I know that this question has been brought up many many times at our forum and I have 2 things to share. 1) You cannot close your windows and sunroof with the remote as that is not an option at all. ( I believe it is only available in some European countries and our cars (US) do not have the Euro spec.) 2) In my BMW all FOUR of the windows convenience close...Look into it at your dealer, I'm sure you'll find one that is willing to help. I look forward to posting here for a while as I am interested in a MC. Hunter

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