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MiniMan7 · May 23rd, 2003, 10:05 PM

I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about, the small circular reflectors that are on the two doors of the Mini. I noticed mine are white, but when I had the loaner Cooper, I noticed they were red?

Is there some sort of difference between model spec? Do the S models get white little refectors and the Coopers get red ones?

Thanks.

-MiniMan7

nickworld · May 23rd, 2003, 10:11 PM

No idea - but let me be the first in there with my ignorance. The ones in my Cooper are red.

MiniMan7 · May 23rd, 2003, 10:12 PM

Hmmm.... interesting.

MiniMan7 · May 23rd, 2003, 10:20 PM

I can't add a poll, its too late?

Any moderators out there wanna add a poll to this thread?

MICKEY · May 23rd, 2003, 10:32 PM

yep

the coopers get red
the S's get white

but real question is "why the difference ?"

HarryHBMCC · May 23rd, 2003, 10:42 PM

Just like the side markers which are white on S and orange on Cooper, they did it to be different. Why a different spoiler? Why different side running boards? To make the two models stand apart, I guess.

Harry

nickworld · May 23rd, 2003, 10:50 PM

Money to burn more like...

GTmini · May 23rd, 2003, 11:13 PM

Speaking of which, this directly ties into something I had wondered when I received my MCS. There was a red reflector about the exact same size as the white ones sitting in my passenger door pocket when I recieved my car. I absolutely can't figure out where it could have been from or anything that's missing a reflector. I'm wondering if it just happens to be an extra reflector that was placed in my car...maybe at the VPC it was originally red by accident and they swapped it with the white one and forgot to throw it out?

MICKEY · May 23rd, 2003, 11:24 PM

nickworld, like it

Not sure this still counts in this country, (the standard of parking has deteriorated over the years).
Don’t you have to park facing the direction of traffic flow, If so and you park on a dark road, when you open the Cooper door the red reflector would warn the traffic to an open door and would be legal, the S having a white reflector would be illegal.

MiniMan7 · May 23rd, 2003, 11:39 PM

GTmini... very unusual story.

Hickster · May 24th, 2003, 12:32 AM

As far as I know, you are supposed to park with the direction of traffic flow, not against Mickey (unless I'm reading you wrong) but I don't think there is a standard controlling door reflectors, only rearward reflectors (which must be red). They're only useful if the door is wide open and no-one is standing in the way (i.e. getting out the car!) anyway.

These extra bit on the S are mostly just to charge more money (called up-charge or product differentiation) and are bit that are not significantly more expensive to produce but add salable value to the product.. therefore a bigger margin for the seller.

Paul.

HarryHBMCC · May 24th, 2003, 12:45 AM

True, S stuff is more expensive. S clear side lamps are more expensive than the Cooper orange ones for some strange reason.

Harry

IBMiniG · May 24th, 2003, 12:47 AM

Hmmm, on my S the dirvers (left) is red while the passenger is white.....hmmmmm......

Root Ginger · May 24th, 2003, 01:09 AM

Hickster. The law in UK is you can park your car in the direction of flow of traffic or against.

If you park against the flow of traffic you must leave your side lights on as you will be displaying no reflectors.

It's in the highway code or driving manual, can't remember which.

As for the door reflector issue. Displaying white to front and red to the rear only applies to reflectors attached to the outside of your car. They can't govern what you have on the interior of your car. Besides which, there are no laws pertaining to door reflectors, as they're not a legal requirement here anyway.

May 23rd, 2003, 10:05 PM	#1
MiniMan7 Let's Motor. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Local Time: 09:12 PM Posts: 2,891 Offline	Small circular reflectors on the inside of the door? I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about, the small circular reflectors that are on the two doors of the Mini. I noticed mine are white, but when I had the loaner Cooper, I noticed they were red? Is there some sort of difference between model spec? Do the S models get white little refectors and the Coopers get red ones? Thanks. -MiniMan7 http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32165.jpg

May 23rd, 2003, 10:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
MiniMan7 Let's Motor. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Local Time: 09:12 PM Posts: 2,891 Offline	Hmmm.... interesting. http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32165.jpg

May 23rd, 2003, 10:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
MiniMan7 Let's Motor. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Local Time: 09:12 PM Posts: 2,891 Offline	I can't add a poll, its too late? Any moderators out there wanna add a poll to this thread? http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32165.jpg

May 23rd, 2003, 10:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 07:12 PM Posts: 2,655 Offline	Just like the side markers which are white on S and orange on Cooper, they did it to be different. Why a different spoiler? Why different side running boards? To make the two models stand apart, I guess. Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

May 23rd, 2003, 11:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
MiniMan7 Let's Motor. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Local Time: 09:12 PM Posts: 2,891 Offline	GTmini... very unusual story. http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32165.jpg

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May 23rd, 2003, 10:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
nickworld pretend grown-up Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carping from the sidelines Local Time: 01:12 AM Posts: 499 Offline	No idea - but let me be the first in there with my ignorance. The ones in my Cooper are red.

May 23rd, 2003, 10:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
MICKEY MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hillingdon Local Time: 12:12 AM Posts: 283 Offline	yep the coopers get red the S's get white but real question is "why the difference ?"

May 23rd, 2003, 10:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
nickworld pretend grown-up Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carping from the sidelines Local Time: 01:12 AM Posts: 499 Offline	Money to burn more like...

May 23rd, 2003, 11:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
GTmini MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Local Time: 05:12 PM Posts: 455 Offline	Speaking of which, this directly ties into something I had wondered when I received my MCS. There was a red reflector about the exact same size as the white ones sitting in my passenger door pocket when I recieved my car. I absolutely can't figure out where it could have been from or anything that's missing a reflector. I'm wondering if it just happens to be an extra reflector that was placed in my car...maybe at the VPC it was originally red by accident and they swapped it with the white one and forgot to throw it out?

May 23rd, 2003, 11:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
MICKEY MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hillingdon Local Time: 12:12 AM Posts: 283 Offline	nickworld, like it Not sure this still counts in this country, (the standard of parking has deteriorated over the years). Don’t you have to park facing the direction of traffic flow, If so and you park on a dark road, when you open the Cooper door the red reflector would warn the traffic to an open door and would be legal, the S having a white reflector would be illegal.

May 24th, 2003, 12:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
Hickster Man about the house My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The SOUTH Local Time: 12:12 AM Posts: 7,341 Offline	As far as I know, you are supposed to park with the direction of traffic flow, not against Mickey (unless I'm reading you wrong) but I don't think there is a standard controlling door reflectors, only rearward reflectors (which must be red). They're only useful if the door is wide open and no-one is standing in the way (i.e. getting out the car!) anyway. These extra bit on the S are mostly just to charge more money (called up-charge or product differentiation) and are bit that are not significantly more expensive to produce but add salable value to the product.. therefore a bigger margin for the seller. Paul. D-lite-full

May 24th, 2003, 12:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 07:12 PM Posts: 2,655 Offline	True, S stuff is more expensive. S clear side lamps are more expensive than the Cooper orange ones for some strange reason. Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

May 24th, 2003, 12:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
IBMiniG MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Local Time: 05:12 PM Posts: 871 Offline	Hmmm, on my S the dirvers (left) is red while the passenger is white.....hmmmmm...... WARNING-Objects in rear view mirror have a tendency to disappear! 9/20 build '03 MCS IB/W/W, everything but the NAV & Sunroof

May 24th, 2003, 01:09 AM	#14 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 12:12 AM Posts: 4,634 Offline	Hickster. The law in UK is you can park your car in the direction of flow of traffic or against. If you park against the flow of traffic you must leave your side lights on as you will be displaying no reflectors. It's in the highway code or driving manual, can't remember which. As for the door reflector issue. Displaying white to front and red to the rear only applies to reflectors attached to the outside of your car. They can't govern what you have on the interior of your car. Besides which, there are no laws pertaining to door reflectors, as they're not a legal requirement here anyway. It was acceptable in the 80's

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