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I LOVE HONDAS · Jun 28th, 2003, 03:19 AM

Why is the MCS at a displacement of 1.6 rather than 1.8 like the naturally aspirated MC? i thought there was no replacement for displacement, as they would say. Im seriously thinking about getting a MCS just cuz i have a love for small cars with power. I currently own a 94 civic hatch back that has 220 hp naturally aspirated. I believe that the MCS has alot of potential thats why i want one. I just dont get why they didnt stick with the 1.8?

hammarlund · Jun 28th, 2003, 03:30 AM

Both the Cooper and the Cooper S engines have the same displacement, 1.6 liters.

Paul · Jun 28th, 2003, 06:25 AM

'tis true, all petrol MINIs have a 1.6 engine.

Prowse · Jun 28th, 2003, 09:52 AM

What is interesting is that none of the 'I've got a bigger HP number than you' brigade haven't bored out the engine to 1.8 or 2.0.

dietcokeplease · Jun 28th, 2003, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prowse
What is interesting is that none of the 'I've got a bigger HP number than you' brigade haven't bored out the engine to 1.8 or 2.0.

Given time, someone, somewhere, will install a M3 engine soon.

And at the same time they'll add a 5ft whale tail spoiler.........

But, each to their own.

Prowse · Jun 28th, 2003, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dietcokeplease
...And at the same time they'll add a 5ft whale tail spoiler.

ROFL.

dco43054 · Jun 28th, 2003, 12:11 PM

And a big muffler hanging out the back end with a 12" diameter resonator tip. Gots to have the big muffler. Adds another 220 hp....

wils · Jun 28th, 2003, 12:35 PM

u know, someone HAS PUT AN M3 engine into a MINI!
i'm not kidding la
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2002@$...oper%20S3.html

cooper4us · Jun 28th, 2003, 01:19 PM

Can anyone take a post seriously from someone called "I LOVE HONDAS"?

I am smelling a troll....

KlausR · Jun 28th, 2003, 03:18 PM

@wsw

That is not a MINI with an M3 engine, it´s more an M3 with MINI looks. The technical modifications neccessary for that transfer are very huge, no matter which way you choose. But you can see that the car is much bigger than a MINI (BMW 3-series wheelbase) and the engine bay looks completely different from the MINI. However, which way you call it, but that could be the result if you park a MINI next to an M3 in the garage on a romantic summer night.

Klaus

Mugami · Jun 28th, 2003, 03:25 PM

As some one said .. give it some time. Since the engine used in the Mini is Shared with some of the UK Chrysler products (Neon and PT cruiser) and the trannie is same type as the Ford Focus. Wouldnt doubt that its possible with a little Hood massaging to put the Neons 2.0 or even the 2.4 liter engine in the Mini. Personally i dont know the dimentions of the two engines to say for sure. but someone will get around to tring it sometime

BRGreenie · Jun 28th, 2003, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cooper4us
Can anyone take a post seriously from someone called "I LOVE HONDAS"?

I am smelling a troll....

My thoughts exactly - and the name is in UPPERCASE too...

shouldn't it be I LOVE SMALL CARS ???

and also if he/she is 'thinking' of buying MINI then you would of thought they would have read some sort of road test reports that give the engine sizea..

So then I LOVE HONDAS - is this the case sir/madam? or should your name really be 'I HATE MINIS COS NOBODY NOTICES OR CARES ABOUT MY HONDA ANYMORE'???

You must admit your name is a bad choice for a MINI forum..

BRGreenie · Jun 28th, 2003, 04:03 PM

or

I HATE MINIS COS THEY MAKE MY HONDA LOOK ORDINARY

or

I HATE MINIS COS THEY MAKE HONDAS LOOK BORING

bigbaddaboom · Jun 28th, 2003, 07:23 PM

Yes jlm's post was quite informative, almost to make you believe that the neon 2.0l and 1.6l do not share a common engine block. Boring the MINI's engine out would make the cylinder side walls way too thin for reliable everyday use.

moorlockx · Jun 28th, 2003, 11:43 PM

Why did they even start with a 1.6? A 1.8 could have given the same fuel economy, if that was the worrisome point. If not, the Mini could have started off with at least 20 hp more in each configuration. It would have been a no-brainer to fit it in the same space.

Prowse · Jun 29th, 2003, 12:55 AM

Quote:

...If I had dream money I'd go for replacing the current components with stronger bits and pumping up the flow. Bigger SC, or turbo?, better cam, heads exhaust system,etc and then the entire drive train and suspension

LOL!

If you race, then fine, if not, why? This "I'm getting more HP than you" is starting to get a little childish IMHO. I bet that 95% of people that own a One couldn't drive it to its max, never mind a Cooper S. Why not spend the money on getting some racing lessons so that you can learn to use the full rev range and control the car? Mind you, even that's a total waste of money unless you're on a track!

Bonnie Scotland · Jun 29th, 2003, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prowse
Why not spend the money on getting some racing lessons so that you can learn to use the full rev range and control the car? Mind you, even that's a total waste of money unless you're on a track!

Whats a track

Bonnie Scotland

Bonnie Scotland · Jun 29th, 2003, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by obehave
You know. Track 1, of your favorite CD, that you listen to as you blast around the country in your ridiculously overpowered MINI.

Yes I'm poking fun at a prior post and no Bonnie I don't think that of your car.

Really hope you keep it

No offence taken

I don't really want to sell it

Bonnie Scotland

Bonjour · Jun 29th, 2003, 06:40 PM

Bonjour · Jun 29th, 2003, 07:23 PM

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Jun 28th, 2003, 03:19 AM	#1
I LOVE HONDAS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Local Time: 09:52 AM Posts: 1 Offline	why 1.6 for mcs? Why is the MCS at a displacement of 1.6 rather than 1.8 like the naturally aspirated MC? i thought there was no replacement for displacement, as they would say. Im seriously thinking about getting a MCS just cuz i have a love for small cars with power. I currently own a 94 civic hatch back that has 220 hp naturally aspirated. I believe that the MCS has alot of potential thats why i want one. I just dont get why they didnt stick with the 1.8?

Jun 28th, 2003, 06:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 10:52 AM Posts: 41,276 Offline	'tis true, all petrol MINIs have a 1.6 engine. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Jun 28th, 2003, 10:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
dietcokeplease Official MINI2 Fluffer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Spearmint Rhino Local Time: 09:52 AM Posts: 5,315 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Prowse What is interesting is that none of the 'I've got a bigger HP number than you' brigade haven't bored out the engine to 1.8 or 2.0. Given time, someone, somewhere, will install a M3 engine soon. And at the same time they'll add a 5ft whale tail spoiler......... But, each to their own. There is just one moon and one golden sun; And a smile mean friendship to ev'ryone; Through the mountains divide, and the oceans are wide; It's a small world after all.

Jun 28th, 2003, 12:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
dco43054 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Local Time: 04:52 AM Posts: 662 Offline	And a big muffler hanging out the back end with a 12" diameter resonator tip. Gots to have the big muffler. Adds another 220 hp.... Gotten anything useful from MINI2? How about giving a little something back? '03 MCS BRG/W Anthracite Pkg 1,2,3

Jun 28th, 2003, 12:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
wils formerly known as wsw Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Local Time: 07:52 PM Posts: 684 Offline	u know, someone HAS PUT AN M3 engine into a MINI! i'm not kidding la http://www.supercars.net/cars/2002@$...oper%20S3.html i got an exhaust because i wanted to make my car sound fast, but its not fast at all, so therefore i am a ricer....

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Jun 28th, 2003, 03:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
hammarlund MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 09:52 AM Posts: 10 Offline	Both the Cooper and the Cooper S engines have the same displacement, 1.6 liters.

Jun 28th, 2003, 09:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
Prowse MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lancs Local Time: 10:52 AM Posts: 1,542 Offline	What is interesting is that none of the 'I've got a bigger HP number than you' brigade haven't bored out the engine to 1.8 or 2.0.

Jun 28th, 2003, 11:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
Prowse MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lancs Local Time: 10:52 AM Posts: 1,542 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by dietcokeplease ...And at the same time they'll add a 5ft whale tail spoiler. ROFL.

Jun 28th, 2003, 01:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 04:52 AM Posts: 1,423 Offline	Can anyone take a post seriously from someone called "I LOVE HONDAS"? I am smelling a troll.... '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

Jun 28th, 2003, 03:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
KlausR MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany (NRW) Local Time: 11:52 AM Posts: 507 Offline	@wsw That is not a MINI with an M3 engine, it´s more an M3 with MINI looks. The technical modifications neccessary for that transfer are very huge, no matter which way you choose. But you can see that the car is much bigger than a MINI (BMW 3-series wheelbase) and the engine bay looks completely different from the MINI. However, which way you call it, but that could be the result if you park a MINI next to an M3 in the garage on a romantic summer night. Klaus Don´t bother me with: Vans, SUVs and Grandpatronic

Jun 28th, 2003, 03:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mugami MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 1,215 Offline	As some one said .. give it some time. Since the engine used in the Mini is Shared with some of the UK Chrysler products (Neon and PT cruiser) and the trannie is same type as the Ford Focus. Wouldnt doubt that its possible with a little Hood massaging to put the Neons 2.0 or even the 2.4 liter engine in the Mini. Personally i dont know the dimentions of the two engines to say for sure. but someone will get around to tring it sometime 02 MCS DS/W (Totaled November 02 on Fall Folage Run) 03 MCS DS/W (See my MINI Profie for extensive list of mods)

Jun 28th, 2003, 04:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
BRGreenie Warning! Armed with Volvo Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW London Local Time: 10:52 AM Posts: 1,244 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by cooper4us Can anyone take a post seriously from someone called "I LOVE HONDAS"? I am smelling a troll.... My thoughts exactly - and the name is in UPPERCASE too... shouldn't it be I LOVE SMALL CARS ??? and also if he/she is 'thinking' of buying MINI then you would of thought they would have read some sort of road test reports that give the engine sizea.. So then I LOVE HONDAS - is this the case sir/madam? or should your name really be 'I HATE MINIS COS NOBODY NOTICES OR CARES ABOUT MY HONDA ANYMORE'??? You must admit your name is a bad choice for a MINI forum..

Jun 28th, 2003, 04:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
BRGreenie Warning! Armed with Volvo Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW London Local Time: 10:52 AM Posts: 1,244 Offline	or I HATE MINIS COS THEY MAKE MY HONDA LOOK ORDINARY or I HATE MINIS COS THEY MAKE HONDAS LOOK BORING

Jun 28th, 2003, 07:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
bigbaddaboom MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brighton, UK Local Time: 10:52 AM Posts: 1,297 Offline	Yes jlm's post was quite informative, almost to make you believe that the neon 2.0l and 1.6l do not share a common engine block. Boring the MINI's engine out would make the cylinder side walls way too thin for reliable everyday use.

Jun 28th, 2003, 11:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
moorlockx MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Fayetteville, NC, US Local Time: 04:52 AM Posts: 893 Offline	Why did they even start with a 1.6? A 1.8 could have given the same fuel economy, if that was the worrisome point. If not, the Mini could have started off with at least 20 hp more in each configuration. It would have been a no-brainer to fit it in the same space. -- '03 S B/W

Jun 29th, 2003, 12:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
Prowse MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lancs Local Time: 10:52 AM Posts: 1,542 Offline	Quote: ...If I had dream money I'd go for replacing the current components with stronger bits and pumping up the flow. Bigger SC, or turbo?, better cam, heads exhaust system,etc and then the entire drive train and suspension LOL! If you race, then fine, if not, why? This "I'm getting more HP than you" is starting to get a little childish IMHO. I bet that 95% of people that own a One couldn't drive it to its max, never mind a Cooper S. Why not spend the money on getting some racing lessons so that you can learn to use the full rev range and control the car? Mind you, even that's a total waste of money unless you're on a track!

Jun 29th, 2003, 06:46 AM	#17 (permalink)
Bonnie Scotland Gadget Man Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Montrose, Scotland Local Time: 08:52 AM Posts: 1,961 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Prowse Why not spend the money on getting some racing lessons so that you can learn to use the full rev range and control the car? Mind you, even that's a total waste of money unless you're on a track! Whats a track Bonnie Scotland

Jun 29th, 2003, 06:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
Bonnie Scotland Gadget Man Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Montrose, Scotland Local Time: 08:52 AM Posts: 1,961 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by obehave You know. Track 1, of your favorite CD, that you listen to as you blast around the country in your ridiculously overpowered MINI. Yes I'm poking fun at a prior post and no Bonnie I don't think that of your car. Really hope you keep it No offence taken I don't really want to sell it Bonnie Scotland

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