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Nic D · Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:31 PM

Hi everyone,

My mate's car was stolen last night in North Derbyshire/Sheffield, it's a red Honda Civic Type R with a very distinctive number plate S13 ERT which makes it look like S BERT. The theiving scrote's broke into his house while he was asleep sometime between 12 and 6.30am and took the keys.

Firstly if anyone see's this car, follow it and call the police, this lot are not common thieves their scum who would probably put a screwdriver or worse into you to get your car keys, they've broken into your house for the keys, what else would they do?

Keep an eye out everyone and please think about your security on windows and doors.

Regards,

Nic

Lavaman23 · Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nic D
Hi everyone,

My mate's car was stolen last night in North Derbyshire/Sheffield, it's a red Honda Civic Type R with a very distinctive number plate S13 ERT which makes it look like S BERT. The theiving scrote's broke into his house while he was asleep sometime between 12 and 6.30am and took the keys.

Firstly if anyone see's this car, follow it and call the police, this lot are not common thieves their scum who would probably put a screwdriver or worse into you to get your car keys, they've broken into your house for the keys, what else would they do?

Keep an eye out everyone and please think about your security on windows and doors.

Regards,

Nic

B*stards the lot of them

Unfortunately with me up in Edinburgh the chances of seeing it is slim but I'll keep an eye out for it. Did he have a Tracking device in the CTR?

cheekymonkey · Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:48 PM

Make sure you report your car stolen on the www.ukstolencars.co.uk - I know the guy who runs the site and it's VERY popular now for checking stolen cars in the UK.

Sorry to hear about the car though... should be strung up by the...

Matt

cheekymonkey · Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:49 PM

PS - the site is run from Cardiff, and promoted heavily in South Wales too!

Nic D · Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:51 PM

No he didn't have a tracker, makes you wonder if you really want the car back after its been screwed shitless by scrotes or used in a ram raid...

Good call on the site Matt, i'll recommend it to him now.

randap · Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:55 PM

I was worried about this scenario when I bought my MC. Apparently (my sis is a PC) the number of cars stolen with the keys is on the increase because household security (or rather lack-of) is easier to bypass than modern car security. These cars are normally stolen to order, so using the key is a big benefit to the thieving scrotes.

So I bought a safe from B&Q (£60) and bolted it to the concrete floor under my stairs (not hidden) and put some sticky-back hooks on the inside of the door to hold all my keys. This way, when I go to work on my m/bike, my MC keys are protected and vice-versa. I haven't hidden the safe on the premise that if a thief sees that you are serious about security, they won't bother looking elsewhere in the house (all the valuables are in the safe) - a tip from one of these security TV programmes.

Another point, if your car is stolen with the keys, which insurance policy pays up? Your cars? - Unlikely as most policies don't pay if the key is used. Your house? - Unlikely as most policies have a value limit, or don't cover personal items outside of the home. On this basis £60 is a small amount, and a safe may actually reduce your household insurance premium (make sure you get an insurance approved safe >£10,000 cover).

A small price to pay for peace of mind, and I also have somewhere safe for my V5........

Nic D · Jul 22nd, 2003, 02:02 PM

Good idea, car insurance company is dealing with it randap.

bobnobski · Jul 22nd, 2003, 03:41 PM

if a thief wants to take your car he will & in this day an age there aint a damm thing you can do about it. police define 'car crime' as speeding, no seat belts etc & there idea of a result is a fixed penalty!

SugarBelly · Jul 22nd, 2003, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Another point, if your car is stolen with the keys, which insurance policy pays up? Your cars? - Unlikely as most policies don't pay if the key is used. Your house? - Unlikely as most policies have a value limit, or don't cover personal items outside of the home.

Stateside, the auto insurance would likely pick-up the tab. Otherwise, one's homeowner's policy coverage would,- as the vehicle needs only to be at the residence, rather than within it.

Sorry to hear of the loss.

A great benefit to being a UK resident lies in the ability to very cheaply buy a mobile phone (a 1-time fee), then sign it into a GPS location service (also a cheap 1-time annual fee). The service is able to locate the SIM card within the phone, thus giving away the position. [A British MINI2er here taught me this a few weeks back,- alas, all the kings horses & all the kings men can't save our SugarBelly across the pond.]

Granted, one would need to hide the phone from sight, while keeping it plugged-in or charged, but still, a very economical safety net. One may also get large discounts from insurance premiums, - in certain areas of the U.S., 30% off the premium is given for having such a relocation GPS service.

**U.S. technology is so far behind that even our 911 emergency services can't get this GPS-via-SIM card thing working. If we had, many many lives could've been saved on 9-11-01.

-s.b.

smiffy · Jul 22nd, 2003, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheekymonkey
PS - the site is run from Cardiff, and promoted heavily in South Wales too!

Ive never heard of it

mikeythemini · Jul 22nd, 2003, 10:13 PM

Alarms/immobilisers are no protection anymore
The way forward is tracking
or anti hook & cane devices - there is one on my mini. See site below
mike

spod · Jul 22nd, 2003, 11:10 PM

This seems to be happening all to often nowadays.

A year ago my friend's house was broken into (in the middel of the night) and they took his 7 series keys, the car was then used in a number of ram raids and also a hit and run. The police panda cars couldn't catch it!

A month ago my friend girlfriends brother bought a brand new clio, 1 week old someone came into the house, took his keys a took the car. He did actually get the car back this time.

You have to be so careful, if they are willing to break in when you are asleep then they are not going to be unarmed and they wont be scared of confronting you if needed!

Bonjour · Jul 22nd, 2003, 11:48 PM

I don't think I should have read this just before I went to bed.

I quite like the sound of those anti hook & cane devices. Might investigate further.

randap · Jul 23rd, 2003, 08:56 AM

I use an Metro Stoplok Pro - (Halfords £49.99

) which fits very snuggly on my steering wheel. Bright yellow so you can't miss it, and rubber backed so it doesn't scratch the steering wheel centre.

Only problems is that with sports seats, sometimes getting in/out of the car with the Autolok in place is a bit of a squeeze!!!

Nic D · Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:23 AM

Guys, news just in:

Quote:

The power of the net eh? Put up a post on the CTR owners forum yesterday for people to keep an eye out for my car. Got this pm at 11.20 last night.

In reply to:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just seen some little chap driving your motor near Drakehouse retail park - the fact that it was yours didn't register till I got home and logged on here - looks fine but the offside headlamp was out. He was being followed by his mat ein some sort of dark coloured Mk 4 Golf. I've just finished on the phne to the law, they've taken the details and my vague description of the guy. Looked like he was about twelve, about 5'8" and wearing a bb cap. I'm going to go out again now and have another look - if you want to call me, I'm on ....

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thats definitely my car as the headlamp bulb blew a few weeks ago.

Once again thanks for the support on here and if you are around Yorkshire its still out there so please let me know if you spot it - while I dont really want the car back I'd like the ****s who broke into the house nicked.

So please if your in that area keep your eye's peeled!!!!

Thanks

Nic

sarahharris28 · Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:32 AM

I had my cooper stolen a few weeks ago. The gits broke into the house and took the keys which were hidden away. My other half's TT was taken as well. He had a tracker and it turned up about 5 hours later. Mine hasn't, but the insurance company have paid out. So, now I'm car-less until the Cooper S turns up !

cheekymonkey · Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:42 AM

Good news Nic... I just sold my car with a tracker... but I was cheap skate this time around... sods law an all that eh...

Nic D · Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:48 AM

Nasty thing to have happened Sarah

Yeah there's still hope for a happy ending here Cheeky, myself and a couple of other friends are thinking about going up to Sheffield to have a look around on Friday night, it's garanteed to be out at a cruise or something from the discription of the 'driver'.

To be honest the car isn't the main issue, the fact they broke into his house is.

Cheers

Nic

cheekymonkey · Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:56 AM

Just don't be tempted to teach the scrote a physical lesson... call him in, I know how tempted I would be! Scrotes like this always know the law inside and out...

The police will clip his ear when no-one is looking!

Nic D · Jul 23rd, 2003, 11:09 AM

We wouldn't dare!

Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:31 PM	#1
Nic D MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Swansea Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 902 Offline	Important! Car stolen, please read!! Hi everyone, My mate's car was stolen last night in North Derbyshire/Sheffield, it's a red Honda Civic Type R with a very distinctive number plate S13 ERT which makes it look like S BERT. The theiving scrote's broke into his house while he was asleep sometime between 12 and 6.30am and took the keys. Firstly if anyone see's this car, follow it and call the police, this lot are not common thieves their scum who would probably put a screwdriver or worse into you to get your car keys, they've broken into your house for the keys, what else would they do? Keep an eye out everyone and please think about your security on windows and doors. Regards, Nic

Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lavaman23 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Scotland Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 24 Offline	Re: Important! Car stolen, please read!! Quote: Originally posted by Nic D Hi everyone, My mate's car was stolen last night in North Derbyshire/Sheffield, it's a red Honda Civic Type R with a very distinctive number plate S13 ERT which makes it look like S BERT. The theiving scrote's broke into his house while he was asleep sometime between 12 and 6.30am and took the keys. Firstly if anyone see's this car, follow it and call the police, this lot are not common thieves their scum who would probably put a screwdriver or worse into you to get your car keys, they've broken into your house for the keys, what else would they do? Keep an eye out everyone and please think about your security on windows and doors. Regards, Nic B*stards the lot of them Unfortunately with me up in Edinburgh the chances of seeing it is slim but I'll keep an eye out for it. Did he have a Tracking device in the CTR?

Jul 22nd, 2003, 06:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
SugarBelly MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: MadTown, Midwest Local Time: 07:27 PM Posts: 493 Offline	Quote: Another point, if your car is stolen with the keys, which insurance policy pays up? Your cars? - Unlikely as most policies don't pay if the key is used. Your house? - Unlikely as most policies have a value limit, or don't cover personal items outside of the home. Stateside, the auto insurance would likely pick-up the tab. Otherwise, one's homeowner's policy coverage would,- as the vehicle needs only to be at the residence, rather than within it. Sorry to hear of the loss. A great benefit to being a UK resident lies in the ability to very cheaply buy a mobile phone (a 1-time fee), then sign it into a GPS location service (also a cheap 1-time annual fee). The service is able to locate the SIM card within the phone, thus giving away the position. [A British MINI2er here taught me this a few weeks back,- alas, all the kings horses & all the kings men can't save our SugarBelly across the pond.] Granted, one would need to hide the phone from sight, while keeping it plugged-in or charged, but still, a very economical safety net. One may also get large discounts from insurance premiums, - in certain areas of the U.S., 30% off the premium is given for having such a relocation GPS service. *U.S. technology is so far behind that even our 911 emergency services can't get this GPS-via-SIM card thing working. If we had, many many lives could've been saved on 9-11-01. -s.b. Last edited by SugarBelly : Jul 22nd, 2003 at 08:23 PM.*

Jul 22nd, 2003, 06:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
smiffy MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Here Local Time: 12:27 AM Posts: 5,718 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by cheekymonkey PS - the site is run from Cardiff, and promoted heavily in South Wales too! Ive never heard of it S for Smiffy "Kids in the front seat cause accidents, accidents in the backseat cause kids!"

Jul 22nd, 2003, 10:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
mikeythemini I can't get no sleep My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Capital of Culture Local Time: 12:27 AM Posts: 9,438 Offline	Alarms/immobilisers are no protection anymore The way forward is tracking or anti hook & cane devices - there is one on my mini. See site below mike Lakes Tour 2008 coming soon Are you ready for Lakes 2008 - details soon

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Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
cheekymonkey MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bristol Local Time: 12:27 AM Posts: 24 Offline	Make sure you report your car stolen on the www.ukstolencars.co.uk - I know the guy who runs the site and it's VERY popular now for checking stolen cars in the UK. Sorry to hear about the car though... should be strung up by the... Matt

Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
cheekymonkey MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bristol Local Time: 12:27 AM Posts: 24 Offline	PS - the site is run from Cardiff, and promoted heavily in South Wales too!

Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nic D MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Swansea Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 902 Offline	No he didn't have a tracker, makes you wonder if you really want the car back after its been screwed shitless by scrotes or used in a ram raid... Good call on the site Matt, i'll recommend it to him now.

Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
randap Hangin at the Krusty Krab My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bikini Bottom Local Time: 12:27 AM Posts: 860 Offline	I was worried about this scenario when I bought my MC. Apparently (my sis is a PC) the number of cars stolen with the keys is on the increase because household security (or rather lack-of) is easier to bypass than modern car security. These cars are normally stolen to order, so using the key is a big benefit to the thieving scrotes. So I bought a safe from B&Q (£60) and bolted it to the concrete floor under my stairs (not hidden) and put some sticky-back hooks on the inside of the door to hold all my keys. This way, when I go to work on my m/bike, my MC keys are protected and vice-versa. I haven't hidden the safe on the premise that if a thief sees that you are serious about security, they won't bother looking elsewhere in the house (all the valuables are in the safe) - a tip from one of these security TV programmes. Another point, if your car is stolen with the keys, which insurance policy pays up? Your cars? - Unlikely as most policies don't pay if the key is used. Your house? - Unlikely as most policies have a value limit, or don't cover personal items outside of the home. On this basis £60 is a small amount, and a safe may actually reduce your household insurance premium (make sure you get an insurance approved safe >£10,000 cover). A small price to pay for peace of mind, and I also have somewhere safe for my V5........

Jul 22nd, 2003, 02:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
Nic D MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Swansea Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 902 Offline	Good idea, car insurance company is dealing with it randap.

Jul 22nd, 2003, 03:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
bobnobski MINI2 Irritant My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 939 Offline	if a thief wants to take your car he will & in this day an age there aint a damm thing you can do about it. police define 'car crime' as speeding, no seat belts etc & there idea of a result is a fixed penalty!

Jul 22nd, 2003, 11:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
spod MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Midlands Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 206 Offline	This seems to be happening all to often nowadays. A year ago my friend's house was broken into (in the middel of the night) and they took his 7 series keys, the car was then used in a number of ram raids and also a hit and run. The police panda cars couldn't catch it! A month ago my friend girlfriends brother bought a brand new clio, 1 week old someone came into the house, took his keys a took the car. He did actually get the car back this time. You have to be so careful, if they are willing to break in when you are asleep then they are not going to be unarmed and they wont be scared of confronting you if needed!

Jul 22nd, 2003, 11:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bonjour der Hummermeister Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stuck in a box Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 1,519 Offline	I don't think I should have read this just before I went to bed. I quite like the sound of those anti hook & cane devices. Might investigate further.

Jul 23rd, 2003, 08:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
randap Hangin at the Krusty Krab My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bikini Bottom Local Time: 12:27 AM Posts: 860 Offline	I use an Metro Stoplok Pro - (Halfords £49.99 ) which fits very snuggly on my steering wheel. Bright yellow so you can't miss it, and rubber backed so it doesn't scratch the steering wheel centre. Only problems is that with sports seats, sometimes getting in/out of the car with the Autolok in place is a bit of a squeeze!!!

Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
Nic D MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Swansea Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 902 Offline	Guys, news just in: Quote: The power of the net eh? Put up a post on the CTR owners forum yesterday for people to keep an eye out for my car. Got this pm at 11.20 last night. In reply to: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just seen some little chap driving your motor near Drakehouse retail park - the fact that it was yours didn't register till I got home and logged on here - looks fine but the offside headlamp was out. He was being followed by his mat ein some sort of dark coloured Mk 4 Golf. I've just finished on the phne to the law, they've taken the details and my vague description of the guy. Looked like he was about twelve, about 5'8" and wearing a bb cap. I'm going to go out again now and have another look - if you want to call me, I'm on .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thats definitely my car as the headlamp bulb blew a few weeks ago. Once again thanks for the support on here and if you are around Yorkshire its still out there so please let me know if you spot it - while I dont really want the car back I'd like the ****s who broke into the house nicked. So please if your in that area keep your eye's peeled!!!! Thanks Nic

Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
sarahharris28 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Godalming, Surrey Local Time: 12:27 AM Posts: 35 Offline	I had my cooper stolen a few weeks ago. The gits broke into the house and took the keys which were hidden away. My other half's TT was taken as well. He had a tracker and it turned up about 5 hours later. Mine hasn't, but the insurance company have paid out. So, now I'm car-less until the Cooper S turns up !

Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:42 AM	#17 (permalink)
cheekymonkey MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bristol Local Time: 12:27 AM Posts: 24 Offline	Good news Nic... I just sold my car with a tracker... but I was cheap skate this time around... sods law an all that eh...

Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:48 AM	#18 (permalink)
Nic D MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Swansea Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 902 Offline	Nasty thing to have happened Sarah Yeah there's still hope for a happy ending here Cheeky, myself and a couple of other friends are thinking about going up to Sheffield to have a look around on Friday night, it's garanteed to be out at a cruise or something from the discription of the 'driver'. To be honest the car isn't the main issue, the fact they broke into his house is. Cheers Nic

Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:56 AM	#19 (permalink)
cheekymonkey MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bristol Local Time: 12:27 AM Posts: 24 Offline	Just don't be tempted to teach the scrote a physical lesson... call him in, I know how tempted I would be! Scrotes like this always know the law inside and out... The police will clip his ear when no-one is looking!

Jul 23rd, 2003, 11:09 AM	#20 (permalink)
Nic D MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Swansea Local Time: 01:27 AM Posts: 902 Offline	We wouldn't dare!

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