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Old Jan 21st, 2002, 01:55 PM   #1
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Mini in Philly

If any of you philly area guys would like to see a MINI Cooper (2002) immediately, you can come to the Philly region autocross on Saturday, January 26th. It is held on the Camden Waterfront, directly south of the Ben Franklin Bridge.

My company, Helix Motorsports, has imported a MINI from Sweden to do performance upgrade r&d. As it sits now, it is bone stock, but by Saturday is should have auto-x tires, a proper alignment and some dynomometer base runs. Some of the quickest autocrossers around (I'm not one of them) will be shaking it down. I an extremely encouraged by the car's bone stock handling. This car has not been over-hyped: we have a go-kart coming our way this spring!

If you need directions, please don't hesitate to email me at eric@helix13.com.
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Old Jan 21st, 2002, 05:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'll try to make it. I run up there every once in awhile (normally WDCR), but I have surgery tomorrow, which puts me out of commision for a little bit (better now than during the season). I'm no.1 on our list at Sterling and will have an S before summer so I'm VERY interested in just seeing a Cooper. I just missed the rep that stopped by a few days ago in a Silver one.

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Old Jan 21st, 2002, 08:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How do i get there from Center City Philadelphia? What time will you be there?


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Old Jan 22nd, 2002, 12:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Speaking of MINIs in the Philly area

Just got a call from Don Rosen (Bala Cynwyd). There's going to be a Cooper in their BMW showroom on Bala Avenue on Thurday (1/24) between 2-3:30.

2002 BRG/W [BRidGet] traded in on 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper [?name?] 2005 #1 wrecked by SUV on 6/03/05 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper (2005 #2) [?name?] picked up on 6/24/05
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Old Jan 22nd, 2002, 02:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Speaking of MINIs in the Philly area

Just got a call from Don Rosen (Bala Cynwyd). There's going to be a Cooper in their BMW showroom on Bala Avenue on Thurday (1/24) between 2-3:30.

I just got the same call! Woo-hoo! Don't know if I can get off of work, though.

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Old Jan 22nd, 2002, 08:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Im SOOOOOOOOOOOOO there
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Old Jan 22nd, 2002, 09:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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MINI in Philly area again?

First Otto's then Bala Cynwyd... Who rates the Philly area better then all the rest. Come on BMW spead the wealth around
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Old Jan 22nd, 2002, 10:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Maybe ill meet some of you guys there . If my midterm dosn't run too long.
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Old Jan 22nd, 2002, 11:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Mini in Philly

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If any of you philly area guys would like to see a MINI Cooper (2002) immediately, you can come to the Philly region autocross on Saturday, January 26th. It is held on the Camden Waterfront, directly south of the Ben Franklin Bridge.

Can't wait! I'll be the goofball in the MINI cap! Weather should be clear and the road free of salt by then so maybe I'll roll out in the Corrado...

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Old Jan 26th, 2002, 02:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Well I had fun at Don Rosen. The gift of the die-cast model was very nice. My red and white Mini die-cast model now sits happily next to my silver and black one.I realy liked the car that was there. What dose every one else who attended think about the event?
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Old Jan 26th, 2002, 06:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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rdcrdc3

I had to work on Thursday and missed a "freebie" from Don Rosen???

Darn!!

Details please (of the experience, that is).

2002 BRG/W [BRidGet] traded in on 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper [?name?] 2005 #1 wrecked by SUV on 6/03/05 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper (2005 #2) [?name?] picked up on 6/24/05
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Old Jan 30th, 2002, 07:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The Cooper was very impressive for a car with so little autocross development in it!

I'm an instructor in Philadelphia region and rode along for one run in the mini and watched a few runs.

First, it accelerates strongly for a car with ~118hp.

I was told this car didn't have the sport plus suspension and it still cornered with less body roll and with better transitional control than I expected.

The car was on Kumho V700 racing tires, so we were giving the suspension a good workout. The Helix guys had also dialed the toe settings out a bit to make the car more responsive and less understeery.

I didn't notice any heavy understeer. I like a little lift-throttle oversteer. This particular setup didn't have it, but I think it could be tuned in. The steering ratio didn't seem slow, but didn't look what I would call quick either. Average for a sporty car.

There was a four cone slalom with about 22 paces between each cone. I'd call it a medium slalom - The Cooper burned through it faster than I think a Miata could have.

My only concern is the 2nd gear ratio. It seems too tall for the ~118hp engine. First launches the car nicely, but in some corners the engine would drop down out of the power band. The person I rode with was very adept at the rapid 1st gear downshift, but it still costs time - anybody know what speed the cooper redlines at in 2nd?

Overall, I was very impressed! With the Sport+ suspension, and the typical SCCA stock class modifications it should be a very quick car. I'd look into smaller than stock diameter tires to try compensating for that tall 2nd gear.

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http://www.awdriven.net/i-club/images/mini1.jpg

http://www.awdriven.net/i-club/images/mini2.jpg

http://www.awdriven.net/i-club/images/mini3.jpg

http://www.awdriven.net/i-club/images/mini4.jpg

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Old Jan 30th, 2002, 11:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
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What did you think of the Indi Blue?
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Old Jan 30th, 2002, 12:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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What did you think of the Indi Blue?

I wasn't there, but from the pictures it looks great! I definately want this color now.

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Old Jan 30th, 2002, 01:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I really didn't pay much attention to anything but how it drove.

The color was nice. It was a fun color but not so flashy that it would attract a lot of attention.
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Old Jan 30th, 2002, 04:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I actually went to the auto-x just to see the MINI. I really wanted to see the Indie blue. I love that color. The only other color I've seen in person was silver with a black roof. Both are nice but the Indie blue looks great on that car. Eric was also kind enough to let me take it for a quick spin. I can't wait until my MINI comes in!

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Old Jan 30th, 2002, 09:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I wasn't there, but from the pictures it looks great! I definately want this color now.

Check out my high res shots of the same car. Very snazzy color. http://www.jasonlivingood.com/mini/01162002/

Good detailed one at http://www.jasonlivingood.com/mini/0...ages/wiss3.htm

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