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Paul · Aug 8th, 2003, 11:31 AM

Look what they openly show on the Japanese MINI site, be nice if this transparancy was available worldwide.

KJ_daGreenMini · Aug 8th, 2003, 12:04 PM

its good to see that actually, openess generally increases trust imo.

Paul · Aug 8th, 2003, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KJ_daGreenMini
its good to see that actually, openess generally increases trust imo.

My thoughts exactly.

Humourl3ss · Aug 9th, 2003, 01:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

My thoughts exactly.

There's supposedly a tradition in Japan that favours heartfelt apologies and quick, complete remedies over secrecy, wrangling and litigation. I think this is an expression of that attitude.

In some ways it sure beats our system.

-CW

MEBOB · Aug 9th, 2003, 07:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Look what they openly show on the Japanese MINI site, be nice if this transparancy was available worldwide.

Okay, maybe this is a dumb question, as I am fairly new to mini2. What is the recall for?

Should I be worried about my S that's about to be built?

Thanks in advance!

Paul · Aug 9th, 2003, 07:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MEBOB

Okay, maybe this is a dumb question, as I am fairly new to mini2. What is the recall for?

Should I be worried about my S that's about to be built?

Thanks in advance!

It could be one of a number of recalls, I assume their site lists them all. If your S is about to be built, all 'recall' modifications will be in place on the line already.

MEBOB · Aug 9th, 2003, 08:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

It could be one of a number of recalls, I assume their site lists them all. If your S is about to be built, all 'recall' modifications will be in place on the line already.

Thanks Paul! I was getting worried.

Rob. · Aug 9th, 2003, 09:03 PM

That is interesting.
If MINI UK admitted to problems when you asked them directly about a particular fault, that would be a start. You have to really push hard to get anyone at Mini UK to admit they have heard of a problem before, never mind them knowing how to fix it.

DanBrady · Aug 11th, 2003, 04:36 AM

My May 2003 build had a recall service done on it when I took it in to have them work on a rattle. The recall involved adding a diode to the electrical system somewhere where they'd been having fits. If I understand right, diodes, in addition to lighting up with minimal drain, also have the feature that they only allow current to flow in one direction.

Didn't sounded like a serious issue to me; more of a fix that they'll roll in as they see the cars in casual appointments. Every car that I've owned in the last 20 years has had recalls. The serious recalls are all accompanied by letters warning you of such; the legal hounds in today's society wouldn't let it be anything less.

edlfrey · Aug 12th, 2003, 04:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Humourl3ss

There's supposedly a tradition in Japan that favours heartfelt apologies and quick, complete remedies over secrecy, wrangling and litigation. I think this is an expression of that attitude.

In some ways it sure beats our system.

-CW

Japanese car companies in Japan have also become much more "open" since 2000-2001 when there was a very big scandal involving Mitsubishi. They were found to have "modified records" involving customer compalints. ALL the Japanese car companies then came under suspicion and started to bend over backwards to show how open and forthcoming they were.

Not much litigation thats for sure

and beats what we got

Aug 8th, 2003, 11:31 AM	#1
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:28 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	MINI Japan, more honest than most? (Recalls) Look what they openly show on the Japanese MINI site, be nice if this transparancy was available worldwide. Attached Thumbnails Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Aug 8th, 2003, 12:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:28 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by KJ_daGreenMini its good to see that actually, openess generally increases trust imo. My thoughts exactly. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Aug 9th, 2003, 01:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Humourl3ss Now With More Cowbell Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada City Local Time: 08:28 PM Posts: 1,695 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett My thoughts exactly. There's supposedly a tradition in Japan that favours heartfelt apologies and quick, complete remedies over secrecy, wrangling and litigation. I think this is an expression of that attitude. In some ways it sure beats our system. -CW Global Moderator

Aug 9th, 2003, 07:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:28 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MEBOB Okay, maybe this is a dumb question, as I am fairly new to mini2. What is the recall for? Should I be worried about my S that's about to be built? Thanks in advance! It could be one of a number of recalls, I assume their site lists them all. If your S is about to be built, all 'recall' modifications will be in place on the line already. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Aug 12th, 2003, 04:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
edlfrey MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Reno, NV Local Time: 05:28 PM Posts: 146 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Humourl3ss There's supposedly a tradition in Japan that favours heartfelt apologies and quick, complete remedies over secrecy, wrangling and litigation. I think this is an expression of that attitude. In some ways it sure beats our system. -CW Japanese car companies in Japan have also become much more "open" since 2000-2001 when there was a very big scandal involving Mitsubishi. They were found to have "modified records" involving customer compalints. ALL the Japanese car companies then came under suspicion and started to bend over backwards to show how open and forthcoming they were. Not much litigation thats for sure and beats what we got 2003 Cooper: VR/W, Black Cloth & Interior, Cold Pak, MFSW, DSC & OBC Mod: Clear Lens 3rd Brake, Stubby Antenna, Cocomats, Clean Visors, Minilite Wheels, CNC Pedals, Custom LED Tail Lights, DaLan Hitch w/Whalen Engraved Hitch Cover

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Aug 8th, 2003, 12:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
KJ_daGreenMini what happened to that boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Local Time: 01:28 AM Posts: 1,625 Offline	its good to see that actually, openess generally increases trust imo.

Aug 9th, 2003, 07:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
MEBOB No, my name's not BOB :O) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Local Time: 08:28 PM Posts: 36 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett Look what they openly show on the Japanese MINI site, be nice if this transparancy was available worldwide. Okay, maybe this is a dumb question, as I am fairly new to mini2. What is the recall for? Should I be worried about my S that's about to be built? Thanks in advance!

Aug 9th, 2003, 08:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
MEBOB No, my name's not BOB :O) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Local Time: 08:28 PM Posts: 36 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett It could be one of a number of recalls, I assume their site lists them all. If your S is about to be built, all 'recall' modifications will be in place on the line already. Thanks Paul! I was getting worried.

Aug 9th, 2003, 09:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rob. MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Middlesbrough UK Local Time: 12:28 AM Posts: 1,616 Offline	That is interesting. If MINI UK admitted to problems when you asked them directly about a particular fault, that would be a start. You have to really push hard to get anyone at Mini UK to admit they have heard of a problem before, never mind them knowing how to fix it.

Aug 11th, 2003, 04:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
DanBrady MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Denver, CO Local Time: 12:28 AM Posts: 25 Offline	My May 2003 build had a recall service done on it when I took it in to have them work on a rattle. The recall involved adding a diode to the electrical system somewhere where they'd been having fits. If I understand right, diodes, in addition to lighting up with minimal drain, also have the feature that they only allow current to flow in one direction. Didn't sounded like a serious issue to me; more of a fix that they'll roll in as they see the cars in casual appointments. Every car that I've owned in the last 20 years has had recalls. The serious recalls are all accompanied by letters warning you of such; the legal hounds in today's society wouldn't let it be anything less.

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