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vegasmini · Oct 30th, 2003, 06:21 AM

I was looking around on miniusa.com and noticed that you can now order you MINI from the factory with rear fog lights.

It is about time I must say.

SugarBelly · Oct 30th, 2003, 03:49 PM

Howdy, vegasmini!

Howdy, CurtP!

We recently sourced the correct 6-Toggle "Switch" from a MINI dealer & installed it ourselves. It's really very easy (I mostly watched & learned

) & you'll feel fab &

after doing it yourself!

Instructions on MINI2 provide great guidance, are less complicated than MINI's dealer-instructions & are "safer for avoiding scratches to the downtubes." It's interesting if you care to check into such things.

Of course one still needs to go to the dealer to get a software update to activate them. [Hubby's scared about that,- doesn't want them to download a version exposing a further Yo-Yo or Stutter problem.

Just to say, - if you're really anxious. I think it cost $83 UPS'd to the house with an Oil Filter ($7) thrown in.

-Lucka

ayn · Oct 30th, 2003, 07:49 PM

I bought mine from a sponsor at MCO for $60, installed the panel this Monday, but haven't got it programmed yet... looks much better with the missing switch...

--Andrew

jlivingood · Oct 30th, 2003, 09:07 PM

Yup - directions and pics at http://www.thelivingoods.com/mini/ToggleSwitchPanel/ Just had the software installed and it was easy and works great.

Minimum · Oct 30th, 2003, 09:39 PM

jlivingood,

I'm curious what your dealer charged you for the programming since it sounds like you installed the switch yourself. I put my new switch in, but haven't made it to the dealer yet for the programming.

MiniMan7 · Oct 30th, 2003, 09:46 PM

Sadly my dealer doesn't know anything about this.

I am going to drive to a US dealer and see if they can add the rear fogs to my MINI for me.

-Adam

ayn · Oct 30th, 2003, 10:11 PM

I have read anywhere from $20 to half an hour of labor...

jlivingood · Oct 30th, 2003, 10:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Minimum

jlivingood,

I'm curious what your dealer charged you for the programming since it sounds like you installed the switch yourself. I put my new switch in, but haven't made it to the dealer yet for the programming.

1/2 hour labor.

obehave · Oct 30th, 2003, 10:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniMan7

Sadly my dealer doesn't know anything about this.

I am going to drive to a US dealer and see if they can add the rear fogs to my MINI for me.

-Adam

Just don't drive to mine

$112 for the switch and $129 for the install. And they won't tell me how much if I do the work myself.

paddy · Oct 31st, 2003, 02:32 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ayn

I bought mine from a sponsor at MCO for $60, installed the panel this Monday, but haven't got it programmed yet... looks much better with the missing switch...

--Andrew

Which sponsor over at MCO?????

obehave · Oct 31st, 2003, 03:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by CurtP

Heh. I *JUST* asked about this last week when I was in getting my first oil change and some other items looked at. You must have the same SA I do (the female, can't remember her name). She said someone was just asking about it a couple of weeks ago. It was you!

They acted like they haven't heard of such a thing

My MCS should be going on eBay sometime this weekend or beginning of next week, provided everything goes well on Saturday with the Formula.

I'll assume you weren't surprised they were clueless

5'5", blonde,rude, with a thin veneer of acting like she gave a crap? Yea, same one I had.

Let's see. The remembered someone asking about it but weeks later they still didn't hve a clue. Yep! That's our proactive service center

Good luck on the sale and the Formula. Hope to see you at the Va Beach thing next mmonth.

Minimum · Oct 31st, 2003, 03:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by jlivingood

1/2 hour labor.

That's ridiculous. I'll bet they can do the programming in under 1 minute.

stryder · Oct 31st, 2003, 03:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by paddy

Which sponsor over at MCO?????

Classic MINI is an MCO Sponsor, but for whatever reason doesn't sponsor here.

If you call them (MINI parts under www.driveclassic.com) and ask for the MCO discount (or discount, they're not too picky) they'll ship you whatever OEM parts you need at a discount, depending on what their markup on that is.

1/2 Labor is sorta a standard minimum charge, so you can't really fault them for charging it, even if it takes 10 min. They do need to bring the car in, write it up, plug it in, etc, so its more then just 1 min work. Best plan is to get them to do it when they're doing something else, like an oil change or warranty work.

Dealers are in business to make money. Just not $112 worth of programming money, that's the insane part.

NEMINI · Oct 31st, 2003, 04:17 AM

self installed my panel and service programmed it for free to try and get on my good side again since they are a bunch of ^@%$^$@^%#$^%@$^%#$%^@%^#$@

paddy · Oct 31st, 2003, 10:04 AM

Thanks, stryder

obehave · Oct 31st, 2003, 11:56 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03

self installed my panel and service programmed it for free to try and get on my good side again since they are a bunch of ^@%$^$@^%#$^%@$^%#$%^@%^#$@

A fellow sufferer.
You got one up on me because I can guarantee you it'll cost me no matter what.

Have you gotten the "If you don't like us you can always go someplace else" line yet. I have. This from the Service Manager

I think he lost about 5 pounds of ***** immediately after uttering that idiocy. I enjoyed that one.

scooterboy · Oct 31st, 2003, 01:24 PM

Got the switch panel from Classic for $60, installed the panel tuesday night, brought it into my dealer to be activated (and for my 10K service) yesterday morning. They charged me $36 for the activation (approx 1/3 hour labor).

They have to hook up to the car's computer, go into a series of menus to activate the fogs, and then reconfigure your memory options (DRLs, autolock, etc) because for some reason they get set to their defaults along the way. I don't think 20 minutes labor is unreasonable for this.

Deealer was Peabody MA, BTW. Those guys are great.

stryder · Oct 31st, 2003, 03:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by scooterboy

and then reconfigure your memory options (DRLs, autolock, etc) because for some reason they get set to their defaults along the way.

For some reason anytime you touch anything programmed this happens. If you want to change an option, you need to reset them all. If you get a new CDs software you need to reset them all. Its just some MINI service quirk thing. Go figure.

scooterboy · Oct 31st, 2003, 03:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by stryder

For some reason anytime you touch anything programmed this happens. If you want to change an option, you need to reset them all. If you get a new CDs software you need to reset them all. Its just some MINI service quirk thing. Go figure.

That would seem to be the case. When I had my alarm activated a while ago, the same thing happened - all my memory settings were lost. Not very efficient programming!

SugarBelly · Oct 31st, 2003, 04:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by obehave

$112 for the switch and $129 for the install. And they won't tell me how much if I do the work myself.

Piggly-wigglies! That's gotta be 100% profit mark-up on an otherwise economical part.

I'm sorry to hear it obehave! Uglyness. Others are running into the same, rude, 5' 5" blonde-syndrome treatment?!
[Next time around, ask her how much for the "Special 1/2 hour Back-Alley MINI Fun" she usually performs, while they change your oil.

] j/k

We haven't even approached our nearest dealer for fear of running into the same discussed herein, which we saw in INDY where we bought our MINI. [We called it the GAP Store from Hell Treatment!

] Further, we already had fine, weasel-treatment from the MINI Sales Manager, "Mr. Dud"

[not his real name] at a WI MINI dealer, losing our first MCS purchase; so, I'm nervous about their MINI Service Center.

Point: Few easily get over poor customer treatment, especially regarding an expensive purchase (1) & one with an emotional attachment (2).

I'm going to tell them I already paid MINI Service in INDY to install & program it, but, hmm, the programming didn't take?! Could you please do it once more?

I'll offer to tip the service person $20.

OK. $36. That's scooterboy's happy result & it's fair. What am I saying?! $1.80/minute is "fair?!" *But obehave's MINI Service Center needs to get smacked!

PS. Anyone throwin' in the diode once re-programmed, to resume the brake-light mod?

Oct 30th, 2003, 06:21 AM	#1
vegasmini Just Motor Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 06:44 PM Posts: 184 Offline	Rear Fogs.....Finally I was looking around on miniusa.com and noticed that you can now order you MINI from the factory with rear fog lights. It is about time I must say.

Oct 30th, 2003, 03:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
SugarBelly MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: MadTown, Midwest Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 527 Offline	Once done, the 6-Switchs Yield a Balance to the Interior's Appearance Howdy, vegasmini! Howdy, CurtP! We recently sourced the correct 6-Toggle "Switch" from a MINI dealer & installed it ourselves. It's really very easy (I mostly watched & learned ) & you'll feel fab & after doing it yourself! Instructions on MINI2 provide great guidance, are less complicated than MINI's dealer-instructions & are "safer for avoiding scratches to the downtubes." It's interesting if you care to check into such things. Of course one still needs to go to the dealer to get a software update to activate them. [Hubby's scared about that,- doesn't want them to download a version exposing a further Yo-Yo or Stutter problem. Just to say, - if you're really anxious. I think it cost $83 UPS'd to the house with an Oil Filter ($7) thrown in. -Lucka

Oct 30th, 2003, 07:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
ayn Gone Motoring! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bay Area, CA Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 140 Offline	I bought mine from a sponsor at MCO for $60, installed the panel this Monday, but haven't got it programmed yet... looks much better with the missing switch... --Andrew 2005 Evolution MR 2004 MINI Cooper S 2003 OB/NB 330Ci (sold) 2001 SB/Tan 330Ci (sold)

Oct 30th, 2003, 09:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
jlivingood MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA, US Local Time: 02:44 AM Posts: 808 Offline	Yup - directions and pics at http://www.thelivingoods.com/mini/ToggleSwitchPanel/ Just had the software installed and it was easy and works great. Jason Livingood \| personal web site 2002 DS/W MINI Cooper S Thank you for signing my rear fog light petition. Now we have rear fogs! :-)

Oct 30th, 2003, 09:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
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Oct 30th, 2003, 09:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
Minimum MINI2 Something or Other Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oregon Local Time: 07:44 PM Posts: 309 Offline	jlivingood, I'm curious what your dealer charged you for the programming since it sounds like you installed the switch yourself. I put my new switch in, but haven't made it to the dealer yet for the programming.

Oct 30th, 2003, 10:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
ayn Gone Motoring! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bay Area, CA Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 140 Offline	I have read anywhere from $20 to half an hour of labor... 2005 Evolution MR 2004 MINI Cooper S 2003 OB/NB 330Ci (sold) 2001 SB/Tan 330Ci (sold)

Oct 30th, 2003, 10:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
jlivingood MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA, US Local Time: 02:44 AM Posts: 808 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Minimum jlivingood, I'm curious what your dealer charged you for the programming since it sounds like you installed the switch yourself. I put my new switch in, but haven't made it to the dealer yet for the programming. 1/2 hour labor. Jason Livingood \| personal web site 2002 DS/W MINI Cooper S Thank you for signing my rear fog light petition. Now we have rear fogs! :-)

Oct 30th, 2003, 10:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniMan7 Sadly my dealer doesn't know anything about this. I am going to drive to a US dealer and see if they can add the rear fogs to my MINI for me. -Adam Just don't drive to mine $112 for the switch and $129 for the install. And they won't tell me how much if I do the work myself.

Oct 31st, 2003, 02:32 AM	#10 (permalink)
paddy Anyone seen MP lately??? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Olney, MD Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 1,126 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ayn I bought mine from a sponsor at MCO for $60, installed the panel this Monday, but haven't got it programmed yet... looks much better with the missing switch... --Andrew Which sponsor over at MCO????? "We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail..." -- President George W. Bush - Sept. 20, 2001

Oct 31st, 2003, 03:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CurtP Heh. I JUST asked about this last week when I was in getting my first oil change and some other items looked at. You must have the same SA I do (the female, can't remember her name). She said someone was just asking about it a couple of weeks ago. It was you! They acted like they haven't heard of such a thing My MCS should be going on eBay sometime this weekend or beginning of next week, provided everything goes well on Saturday with the Formula. I'll assume you weren't surprised they were clueless 5'5", blonde,rude, with a thin veneer of acting like she gave a crap? Yea, same one I had. Let's see. The remembered someone asking about it but weeks later they still didn't hve a clue. Yep! That's our proactive service center Good luck on the sale and the Formula. Hope to see you at the Va Beach thing next mmonth.

Oct 31st, 2003, 03:41 AM	#12 (permalink)
Minimum MINI2 Something or Other Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oregon Local Time: 07:44 PM Posts: 309 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by jlivingood 1/2 hour labor. That's ridiculous. I'll bet they can do the programming in under 1 minute.

Oct 31st, 2003, 03:48 AM	#13 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 3,358 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by paddy Which sponsor over at MCO????? Classic MINI is an MCO Sponsor, but for whatever reason doesn't sponsor here. If you call them (MINI parts under www.driveclassic.com) and ask for the MCO discount (or discount, they're not too picky) they'll ship you whatever OEM parts you need at a discount, depending on what their markup on that is. 1/2 Labor is sorta a standard minimum charge, so you can't really fault them for charging it, even if it takes 10 min. They do need to bring the car in, write it up, plug it in, etc, so its more then just 1 min work. Best plan is to get them to do it when they're doing something else, like an oil change or warranty work. Dealers are in business to make money. Just not $112 worth of programming money, that's the insane part. Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

Oct 31st, 2003, 04:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 7,911 Offline	self installed my panel and service programmed it for free to try and get on my good side again since they are a bunch of ^@%$^$@^%#$^%@$^%#$%^@%^#$@ NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Oct 31st, 2003, 10:04 AM	#15 (permalink)
paddy Anyone seen MP lately??? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Olney, MD Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 1,126 Offline	Thanks, stryder "We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail..." -- President George W. Bush - Sept. 20, 2001

Oct 31st, 2003, 11:56 AM	#16 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GMINI03 self installed my panel and service programmed it for free to try and get on my good side again since they are a bunch of ^@%$^$@^%#$^%@$^%#$%^@%^#$@ A fellow sufferer. You got one up on me because I can guarantee you it'll cost me no matter what. Have you gotten the "If you don't like us you can always go someplace else" line yet. I have. This from the Service Manager I think he lost about 5 pounds of ***** immediately after uttering that idiocy. I enjoyed that one.

Oct 31st, 2003, 01:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
scooterboy MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NH Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 795 Offline	Got the switch panel from Classic for $60, installed the panel tuesday night, brought it into my dealer to be activated (and for my 10K service) yesterday morning. They charged me $36 for the activation (approx 1/3 hour labor). They have to hook up to the car's computer, go into a series of menus to activate the fogs, and then reconfigure your memory options (DRLs, autolock, etc) because for some reason they get set to their defaults along the way. I don't think 20 minutes labor is unreasonable for this. Deealer was Peabody MA, BTW. Those guys are great. My MINI Mods

Oct 31st, 2003, 03:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 3,358 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by scooterboy and then reconfigure your memory options (DRLs, autolock, etc) because for some reason they get set to their defaults along the way. For some reason anytime you touch anything programmed this happens. If you want to change an option, you need to reset them all. If you get a new CDs software you need to reset them all. Its just some MINI service quirk thing. Go figure. Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

Oct 31st, 2003, 03:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
scooterboy MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NH Local Time: 10:44 PM Posts: 795 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by stryder For some reason anytime you touch anything programmed this happens. If you want to change an option, you need to reset them all. If you get a new CDs software you need to reset them all. Its just some MINI service quirk thing. Go figure. That would seem to be the case. When I had my alarm activated a while ago, the same thing happened - all my memory settings were lost. Not very efficient programming! My MINI Mods

Oct 31st, 2003, 04:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
SugarBelly MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: MadTown, Midwest Local Time: 09:44 PM Posts: 527 Offline	I Know Where You're At! Quote: Originally Posted by obehave $112 for the switch and $129 for the install. And they won't tell me how much if I do the work myself. Piggly-wigglies! That's gotta be 100% profit mark-up on an otherwise economical part. I'm sorry to hear it obehave! Uglyness. Others are running into the same, rude, 5' 5" blonde-syndrome treatment?! [Next time around, ask her how much for the "Special 1/2 hour Back-Alley MINI Fun" she usually performs, while they change your oil. ] j/k We haven't even approached our nearest dealer for fear of running into the same discussed herein, which we saw in INDY where we bought our MINI. [We called it the GAP Store from Hell Treatment! ] Further, we already had fine, weasel-treatment from the MINI Sales Manager, "Mr. Dud" [not his real name] at a WI MINI dealer, losing our first MCS purchase; so, I'm nervous about their MINI Service Center. Point: Few easily get over poor customer treatment, especially regarding an expensive purchase (1) & one with an emotional attachment (2). *I'm going to tell them I already paid MINI Service in INDY to install & program it, but, hmm, the programming didn't take?!* Could you please do it once more? I'll offer to tip the service person $20. OK. $36.** That's scooterboy's happy result & it's fair. What am I saying?! $1.80/minute is "fair?!" But obehave's MINI Service Center needs to get smacked!* PS. Anyone throwin' in the diode once re-programmed, to resume the brake-light mod? Last edited by SugarBelly : Oct 31st, 2003 at 04:44 PM.

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