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Greendevil · Dec 2nd, 2003, 04:12 AM

The legendary grip MINIs have around corners is exhaustable!

checkitout http://scampbell.co.uk/highlights.php and go to the John Cooper Challenge higlights video..

warning - 15MB in size.

GreenDevil

cityclinic · Dec 2nd, 2003, 04:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil

The legendary grip MINIs have around corners is exhaustable!

checkitout http://scampbell.co.uk/highlights.php and go to the John Cooper Challenge higlights video..

warning - 15MB in size.

GreenDevil

Someone else is obviously picking up the repair tab for these guys ..... less than 50% of the field finished on a dry track.

I think we will be a little more conservative .... smooth and fast at Wakefield.

swamos · Dec 2nd, 2003, 04:59 AM

Interesting to see a gravel trap overturning a car too. It can happen

Boo · Dec 2nd, 2003, 07:24 AM

You would have to be pushing really hard to off a Mini...

Mini2v · Dec 2nd, 2003, 07:37 AM

I'm sure our professional training will see us avoid all that carnage.

robbo mcs · Dec 2nd, 2003, 09:32 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Boo

You would have to be pushing really hard to off a Mini...

Hi,

I agree with Boo,

You would either have to be pushing very, very hard, have a major mechanical failiure or be a very bad driver to have a major off with the mini.

However, my 2cents worth about possible mini2 track days :

* The events should be non-competitive and non-timed, orientated towards driver training, and experiencing fun trivng on the track. Obviously, groups can be streamed to drivers / cars of equal ability, but as soon as you start timing things, and posting times, inexperienced drivers start pushing things harder than they should. If people want to compete seriously they should go to other days such as BMW club motorsport days
* It would be worthwhile getting an opinion on insurance status from some of the major insurance companies. As long as the day is non-competative, non-timed driver training with proper instructors there is a chance that some insurance companies will cover it.
* Maybe one of the BMW dealerships could provide a mechanic with some basic spares to help out on the day in case of any minor mechanical problems.
* If there is going to be a motorkhana I would really like it to be on the wet skid pan / figure 8 at Eastern Creek. This venue is expensive, but is so much better than anywhere else. Due to the wet polished concrete it is more fun than any other venue, and is also less stressful on the car.

Robbo

Mini2v · Dec 2nd, 2003, 10:43 AM

Robbo

Thanks for your feedback on the track days, Brad and i are meeting with our professional trainers on thursday so your comments are very timely and appropriate. The last Mini Gymkhana I ran for Col Crawford Motors was on the skid pan at Eastern Creek, it is an excellent venue and evryone had a ball, this is where we are planning our CLUBMINI gymkhanas.

Vic

swamos · Dec 2nd, 2003, 11:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs

Hi,

I agree with Boo,

You would either have to be pushing very, very hard, have a major mechanical failiure or be a very bad driver to have a major off with the mini.

However, my 2cents worth about possible mini2 track days :

* The events should be non-competitive and non-timed, orientated towards driver training, and experiencing fun trivng on the track. Obviously, groups can be streamed to drivers / cars of equal ability, but as soon as you start timing things, and posting times, inexperienced drivers start pushing things harder than they should. If people want to compete seriously they should go to other days such as BMW club motorsport days
* It would be worthwhile getting an opinion on insurance status from some of the major insurance companies. As long as the day is non-competative, non-timed driver training with proper instructors there is a chance that some insurance companies will cover it.
* Maybe one of the BMW dealerships could provide a mechanic with some basic spares to help out on the day in case of any minor mechanical problems.
* If there is going to be a motorkhana I would really like it to be on the wet skid pan / figure 8 at Eastern Creek. This venue is expensive, but is so much better than anywhere else. Due to the wet polished concrete it is more fun than any other venue, and is also less stressful on the car.

Robbo

IMHO, all great ideas

robbo mcs · Dec 2nd, 2003, 08:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mini2v

Robbo

Thanks for your feedback on the track days, Brad and i are meeting with our professional trainers on thursday so your comments are very timely and appropriate. The last Mini Gymkhana I ran for Col Crawford Motors was on the skid pan at Eastern Creek, it is an excellent venue and evryone had a ball, this is where we are planning our CLUBMINI gymkhanas.

Vic

Hi,

I dont know what instructors you are speaking to. However, it would be worth checking out "tracktime". They put on excellent days, with very experienced instructors. Also, they are very safe, and do not push people too hard, or let people get aggressive.

Also, FYI there is a BMW club motorsport day at Oran Park Sunday March 7th. It would be a bummer if the days clashed

Cheers

Robbo

cityclinic · Dec 2nd, 2003, 09:49 PM

Thanks for the imput robbo and swamos. Mini2v and cityclinic are meeting with tracktime with a view to develop training modules that are unique for MINI owners in addition to what is already provided. We have had very good feedback about the company and Mini2v has had prior experince with their services.

I have made a note to avoid March 7. We also have a show and shine day being planned for March 14 at Cronulla in conjuction with Sutherland Council. Last weekend of Feb (28-29) is looking good.

warped · Dec 3rd, 2003, 01:02 AM

While it was fun to watch most of those drivers were absolute idiots on the track

There ain't know way known I would be game to go on a track with that many other cars, timed event or no timed event

I'm really looking forward to the track day having never done one before ... I expect that I will learn a lot and discover I make a lot more mistakes than I think I do

though I have to admit I'm thinking that the tyres and brakes might take a bit of a hammering in the process

gazah · Dec 3rd, 2003, 05:53 AM

anyone else got this to work on their mac? i get audio but that's it! i got most major codecs, so i dunno what it is!
don't worry though... i managed to watch it just fine on the pc in the other room!

anyways... i reckon one of the first cars to go off [with it's wipers on] looked like a mix between the CITY.CLINIC & SMURFN MCSs... bright green with white trim!

kinda expensive to use MCs in a demo derby, but & i s'pose they could always use it as an ad for the mini's safety features!

those front grille camera angles are a killer... nice find greendevil!

nonsequitur · Dec 3rd, 2003, 06:06 AM

Couldn't make any arrangement of Mac OS10.3.1, IE or Safari, and Windows Media Player work on this one.

cityclinic · Dec 3rd, 2003, 07:11 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by gazah

anyone else got this to work on their mac? i get audio but that's it! i got most major codecs, so i dunno what it is!
don't worry though... i managed to watch it just fine on the pc in the other room!

anyways... i reckon one of the first cars to go off [with it's wipers on] looked like a mix between the CITY.CLINIC & SMURFN MCSs... bright green with white trim!

kinda expensive to use MCs in a demo derby, but & i s'pose they could always use it as an ad for the mini's safety features!

those front grille camera angles are a killer... nice find greendevil!

Macs lead a sheltered life, only creative types and ad agencies use em. Good to see you have expanded your horizons and bought a PC so you can keep up with the rest of the world.

Mini2v · Dec 3rd, 2003, 07:46 AM

Robbo

We are in fact talking with TrackTime, i have used them before and support your comments, thanks for the heads up on 7/3/04

Vic

gazah · Dec 3rd, 2003, 08:49 AM

10.3.1 here too... & have tried all the options i can think of!

& brad, the mac is only a recent acquisition, after the PC... so maybe i'm a 'creative type' !?!

& i use the mini to 'expand my horizons' [only when viewed in the rear vision!]

JugMan · Dec 4th, 2003, 06:34 AM

I loved the bit in that vid where the camera got right up close to the rear bumper "GENUINE MINI PARTS" then panned back just to make sure you knew they were "GENUINE"

Loved it. Great vid.

chiph · Dec 6th, 2003, 11:24 PM

Jeezus, what a disaster! Obviously it was filmed over the season, but a couple of those wrecks at any one track should have been enough to stop the race.

Why didn't the cars have their "L" learner decals on?

Chip H.

Boo · Dec 7th, 2003, 07:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs

Hi,

I dont know what instructors you are speaking to. However, it would be worth checking out "tracktime". They put on excellent days, with very experienced instructors. Also, they are very safe, and do not push people too hard, or let people get aggressive.

Also, FYI there is a BMW club motorsport day at Oran Park Sunday March 7th. It would be a bummer if the days clashed

Cheers

Robbo

March the 7th, damn, that's the day i get home

robbo mcs · Dec 7th, 2003, 08:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Boo

March the 7th, damn, that's the day i get home

Hi,

Dont worry, its just a quick 2 hour drive down from the airport to Wakefield park

As long as you are on the early flight, no problems

Robbo

Dec 2nd, 2003, 04:12 AM	#1
Greendevil Track Pal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Local Time: 11:46 AM Posts: 298 Offline	I hope our track day ain't like this (video) The legendary grip MINIs have around corners is exhaustable! checkitout http://scampbell.co.uk/highlights.php and go to the John Cooper Challenge higlights video.. warning - 15MB in size. GreenDevil BMW E36 M3R Alpine White - Engine : 6 cylinder; DOHC 24 valve Capacity : 2990cc Power : 243KW @ 7000 rpm Torque : 323NM @ 3900rpm Produced : Jan - May 1995 How many :15 ONLY

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Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 1,735 Offline	You would have to be pushing really hard to off a Mini... The original SWORKS

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gazah M2 Procrastinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: sydney, OZ! Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 1,856 Offline	anyone else got this to work on their mac? i get audio but that's it! i got most major codecs, so i dunno what it is! don't worry though... i managed to watch it just fine on the pc in the other room! anyways... i reckon one of the first cars to go off [with it's wipers on] looked like a mix between the CITY.CLINIC & SMURFN MCSs... bright green with white trim! kinda expensive to use MCs in a demo derby, but & i s'pose they could always use it as an ad for the mini's safety features! those front grille camera angles are a killer... nice find greendevil! come MOTOR with clubMINI

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nonsequitur MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle area, WA Local Time: 04:46 PM Posts: 1,471 Offline	Couldn't make any arrangement of Mac OS10.3.1, IE or Safari, and Windows Media Player work on this one. '02 MINI Cooper CVT(6/12/02; Indi Blue/Black, R-81 7-hole 15x5.5" or NZO 16x6.5") '67 Austin Cooper S (6/26/67; Tartan Red/Black, 10x4.5")

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gazah M2 Procrastinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: sydney, OZ! Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 1,856 Offline	10.3.1 here too... & have tried all the options i can think of! & brad, the mac is only a recent acquisition, after the PC... so maybe i'm a 'creative type' !?! & i use the mini to 'expand my horizons' [only when viewed in the rear vision!] come MOTOR with clubMINI

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Dec 2nd, 2003, 04:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
cityclinic MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 1,524 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Greendevil The legendary grip MINIs have around corners is exhaustable! checkitout http://scampbell.co.uk/highlights.php and go to the John Cooper Challenge higlights video.. warning - 15MB in size. GreenDevil Someone else is obviously picking up the repair tab for these guys ..... less than 50% of the field finished on a dry track. I think we will be a little more conservative .... smooth and fast at Wakefield.

Dec 2nd, 2003, 04:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 4,985 Offline	Interesting to see a gravel trap overturning a car too. It can happen

Dec 2nd, 2003, 07:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mini2v MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern Beaches Syd Local Time: 11:46 AM Posts: 1,099 Offline	I'm sure our professional training will see us avoid all that carnage.

Dec 2nd, 2003, 09:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 11:46 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Boo You would have to be pushing really hard to off a Mini... Hi, I agree with Boo, You would either have to be pushing very, very hard, have a major mechanical failiure or be a very bad driver to have a major off with the mini. However, my 2cents worth about possible mini2 track days : * The events should be non-competitive and non-timed, orientated towards driver training, and experiencing fun trivng on the track. Obviously, groups can be streamed to drivers / cars of equal ability, but as soon as you start timing things, and posting times, inexperienced drivers start pushing things harder than they should. If people want to compete seriously they should go to other days such as BMW club motorsport days * It would be worthwhile getting an opinion on insurance status from some of the major insurance companies. As long as the day is non-competative, non-timed driver training with proper instructors there is a chance that some insurance companies will cover it. * Maybe one of the BMW dealerships could provide a mechanic with some basic spares to help out on the day in case of any minor mechanical problems. * If there is going to be a motorkhana I would really like it to be on the wet skid pan / figure 8 at Eastern Creek. This venue is expensive, but is so much better than anywhere else. Due to the wet polished concrete it is more fun than any other venue, and is also less stressful on the car. Robbo

Dec 2nd, 2003, 10:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mini2v MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern Beaches Syd Local Time: 11:46 AM Posts: 1,099 Offline	Robbo Thanks for your feedback on the track days, Brad and i are meeting with our professional trainers on thursday so your comments are very timely and appropriate. The last Mini Gymkhana I ran for Col Crawford Motors was on the skid pan at Eastern Creek, it is an excellent venue and evryone had a ball, this is where we are planning our CLUBMINI gymkhanas. Vic

Dec 2nd, 2003, 11:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 4,985 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs Hi, I agree with Boo, You would either have to be pushing very, very hard, have a major mechanical failiure or be a very bad driver to have a major off with the mini. However, my 2cents worth about possible mini2 track days : * The events should be non-competitive and non-timed, orientated towards driver training, and experiencing fun trivng on the track. Obviously, groups can be streamed to drivers / cars of equal ability, but as soon as you start timing things, and posting times, inexperienced drivers start pushing things harder than they should. If people want to compete seriously they should go to other days such as BMW club motorsport days * It would be worthwhile getting an opinion on insurance status from some of the major insurance companies. As long as the day is non-competative, non-timed driver training with proper instructors there is a chance that some insurance companies will cover it. * Maybe one of the BMW dealerships could provide a mechanic with some basic spares to help out on the day in case of any minor mechanical problems. * If there is going to be a motorkhana I would really like it to be on the wet skid pan / figure 8 at Eastern Creek. This venue is expensive, but is so much better than anywhere else. Due to the wet polished concrete it is more fun than any other venue, and is also less stressful on the car. Robbo IMHO, all great ideas

Dec 2nd, 2003, 08:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 11:46 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Mini2v Robbo Thanks for your feedback on the track days, Brad and i are meeting with our professional trainers on thursday so your comments are very timely and appropriate. The last Mini Gymkhana I ran for Col Crawford Motors was on the skid pan at Eastern Creek, it is an excellent venue and evryone had a ball, this is where we are planning our CLUBMINI gymkhanas. Vic Hi, I dont know what instructors you are speaking to. However, it would be worth checking out "tracktime". They put on excellent days, with very experienced instructors. Also, they are very safe, and do not push people too hard, or let people get aggressive. Also, FYI there is a BMW club motorsport day at Oran Park Sunday March 7th. It would be a bummer if the days clashed Cheers Robbo

Dec 2nd, 2003, 09:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
cityclinic MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 1,524 Offline	Thanks for the imput robbo and swamos. Mini2v and cityclinic are meeting with tracktime with a view to develop training modules that are unique for MINI owners in addition to what is already provided. We have had very good feedback about the company and Mini2v has had prior experince with their services. I have made a note to avoid March 7. We also have a show and shine day being planned for March 14 at Cronulla in conjuction with Sutherland Council. Last weekend of Feb (28-29) is looking good.

Dec 3rd, 2003, 01:02 AM	#11 (permalink)
warped JCW No. 1459 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Neutral Bay, Sydney Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 869 Offline	While it was fun to watch most of those drivers were absolute idiots on the track There ain't know way known I would be game to go on a track with that many other cars, timed event or no timed event I'm really looking forward to the track day having never done one before ... I expect that I will learn a lot and discover I make a lot more mistakes than I think I do though I have to admit I'm thinking that the tyres and brakes might take a bit of a hammering in the process

Dec 3rd, 2003, 07:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
cityclinic MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 1,524 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by gazah anyone else got this to work on their mac? i get audio but that's it! i got most major codecs, so i dunno what it is! don't worry though... i managed to watch it just fine on the pc in the other room! anyways... i reckon one of the first cars to go off [with it's wipers on] looked like a mix between the CITY.CLINIC & SMURFN MCSs... bright green with white trim! kinda expensive to use MCs in a demo derby, but & i s'pose they could always use it as an ad for the mini's safety features! those front grille camera angles are a killer... nice find greendevil! Macs lead a sheltered life, only creative types and ad agencies use em. Good to see you have expanded your horizons and bought a PC so you can keep up with the rest of the world.

Dec 3rd, 2003, 07:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
Mini2v MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern Beaches Syd Local Time: 11:46 AM Posts: 1,099 Offline	Robbo We are in fact talking with TrackTime, i have used them before and support your comments, thanks for the heads up on 7/3/04 Vic

Dec 4th, 2003, 06:34 AM	#17 (permalink)
JugMan MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brisbane - North Side Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 503 Offline	I loved the bit in that vid where the camera got right up close to the rear bumper "GENUINE MINI PARTS" then panned back just to make sure you knew they were "GENUINE" Loved it. Great vid.

Dec 6th, 2003, 11:24 PM	#18 (permalink)
chiph Spectator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Local Time: 08:46 PM Posts: 1,563 Offline	Jeezus, what a disaster! Obviously it was filmed over the season, but a couple of those wrecks at any one track should have been enough to stop the race. Why didn't the cars have their "L" learner decals on? Chip H. ex-MINI Cooper S owner and all around good-guy

Dec 7th, 2003, 07:55 AM	#19 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 10:46 AM Posts: 1,735 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs Hi, I dont know what instructors you are speaking to. However, it would be worth checking out "tracktime". They put on excellent days, with very experienced instructors. Also, they are very safe, and do not push people too hard, or let people get aggressive. Also, FYI there is a BMW club motorsport day at Oran Park Sunday March 7th. It would be a bummer if the days clashed Cheers Robbo March the 7th, damn, that's the day i get home The original SWORKS

Dec 7th, 2003, 08:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 11:46 AM Posts: 2,620 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Boo March the 7th, damn, that's the day i get home Hi, Dont worry, its just a quick 2 hour drive down from the airport to Wakefield park As long as you are on the early flight, no problems Robbo

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