[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by Max

OK so I was late reading the weekend papers this week....

...but now I offer...

Buyers Guide – MINI Cooper (from 2001)

Lifted from Honest John Saturday Telegraph (UK) 6th December 2003:

What’s Good:

Looks. Chain-cam, 1.6L, 16 Valve, 115 bhp engine, 3 year unlimited mileage warranty, with a 5 year/50,000 mile servicing package for £99. Very low depreciation, 4 Star NCAP crash safety rating. Average for breakdowns and faults.

What’s Bad:

Small boot (trunk) and back seat. Firm ride, made worse by sport suspension and wheel options. Faults can include pulling to the left, dashboard rattles, faulty gauges, plus air bag, transmission, power steering and central locking glitches. Vulnerable to engine damage in floods; later cars are modified.

What to watch out for:

Never drive through floods. Yellow cars hard to sell. Independent imports without £99 tlc service package cost an extra £500 in servicing. Used-price confusion because cost of extras can add £4000 to new price.

Max comments:

Oh Dear all u yellow peeps!

No mention of Grin Factor 12 anywhere? How very sad.

So much for Honesty, the polls does not lie ( consumes third pint of Owd Roger and lapses into Coma)

[ABG]

Quote: Originally Posted by Max

OK this was meant to be a serious thread...

...but as u insist..

Waaahhhhh

max

Not sure if this is a serious comment or not but...

never drive through floods? Duh.
I think they should have added - never drive off cliffs, never drive into the desert without a map and water, never chase hurricanes, never jump out of the sunroof when doing 80mph on the M1.

Rethink - this is a serious comment and a facetious follow-up

[Restyle]

Quote: Originally Posted by Max

....Used-price confusion because cost of extras can add £4000 to new price.

...and the Rest if you really want Everything !

Actually, I never knew it had a Chain Cam , thats something else I`ll have to remember when explaining to peeps how come I Love it So Much

[SoggyCornFlakes]

Miserable buzzturds - nothing wrong with LY, it's only comments like that that end up putting people off

I love my LY/B and am a happy bee

[snuffy]

pah floods? I drove through a LAKE and came out ok a few weeks back - an Espace and an old Citreon didn't make it though.

Firm ride made worse by wheels? yes, well observed there

[KenL]

What a load of cr*p. Who is this honest John geezer anyway?

As to the yellow thing I don't believe it, yellow MINIs look great . Just like I don't believe the folks who say a MINI without AC is hard to shift

[milliethemini]

"Vulnerable to engine damage in floods; later cars are modified."


Curious - when were the MINIs 'modified'? Which build month and year?

[Mike Clarke]

Don't drive through floods? This one went on for over a Kilometre.

[KenL]

Thanks for the link Max. I'll take a look.

[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by Max

OK this was meant to be a serious thread...

...but as u insist..

Waaahhhhh

max

Sorry Max, was'nt sure if you were being serious or not, it sort of falls between OT&B and GD if you get my drift, Just the name Honest John makes it slightly tongue in cheek, despite that the comments were probably accurate at some point in the short history of the car, but lumped together like that, its no longer a true reflection
of how things have been fixed and improved.

[randap]

Quote: Originally Posted by milliethemini

"Vulnerable to engine damage in floods; later cars are modified."


Curious - when were the MINIs 'modified'? Which build month and year?

I'd like to know that too. After driving through 3inches of standing water and having to have a new engine.....BMW claim no responsibility - if they have changed the design I would like to know so I can go to the small claims court to get my insurance costs back........(and I'll be extremely angry!!!).

[ABG]

Quote: Originally Posted by Max

Well, OK, it was (still is I hope) a serious thread. Witness the 400+ owners on here with left pull problems....

...also did you know that hundreds of BMW X5 owners have driven their *sturdy off roaders* down flooded roads in Central London *skool run lol* and have had to replace their engines what flooded 'cause the X5 air intake was, like, 6 inches off the tarmac' oh and BMW have stoutly defended their position re warranty:

"The X5 is designed as an *off road* (sic) (Im sure all owners so affected were) vehicle. As such it is not designed to cope with 4" water on a public road"

Please don't quote me on this as my quote was herasay (hearsay - oops my sydelixa not quite cured tey )

max

Not sure where your comments are coming from as mine relate to the largely useless information "avoid floods" - apparently one man's flood is another's average puddle. When the news covers "floods" it generally isn't 4 inches of water - it's usually 3 foot plus.

Great story about the X5s. When did this happen - surely hundreds of stranded X5s in a flooded part of central London would be a major news item?

I would image that anyone who owns an X5 and has kids going to a school in central London (?) will be more than able to afford a new engine

['THE MIGHTY IMP']

drive it through a flood, then get the dealership to replace everything..

hey presto, a new car!

my mini has had almost everything replaced.

2nd set of rear discs going on tomorrow. car is only 25months old.


ian M.

[snuffy]

Quote: Originally Posted by randap

I'd like to know that too. After driving through 3inches of standing water and having to have a new engine.....BMW claim no responsibility - if they have changed the design I would like to know so I can go to the small claims court to get my insurance costs back........(and I'll be extremely angry!!!).

I drove mine through a river which had burst it's banks a few weeks back now when it was torrential rain. The water must have been upto the bottoms of the doors and I made it. They have made some modifications surely.

[randap]

Quote: Originally Posted by THE MIGHTY IMP

drive it through a flood, then get the dealership to replace everything..

hey presto, a new car!

my mini has had almost everything replaced.

2nd set of rear discs going on tomorrow. car is only 25months old.


ian M.

Really? Insurance or covered by MINI?

My engine siezed and had to have a new one through insurance (I only went through 3 inches of water). BMW wouldn't take responsibility on the basis that they could not replicate the circumstances, and the car had passed all European tests (including a fording test). Please let me know on what basis stuff has been replaced.......

As for the modifications, if these have been made because the car was not able to ford, then they have admitted liability and should recall (safety issue). I will then consider small claims court......

[gibbon]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Clarke

Don't drive through floods? This one went on for over a Kilometre.

Great pic Mike Catch any fish ?