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Skinnyrunt · Jan 7th, 2004, 05:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ABG

One last thought - I love to see a "speccing my Type R thread". With 3 colours and almost no options it would be a short discussion

That's not too bad, when my dad ordered his Integra it was only available in white and something like 4 available options

Washy · Jan 7th, 2004, 05:11 PM

It depends if Aiden is speccing one.....

I'm sure they have just done a small facelift on the type R and there are some new colours.....I am positive I have seen adark metallic grey one....

Skinnyrunt · Jan 7th, 2004, 05:13 PM

lol...btw they have just facelifted it, it has new front lights

KJ_daGreenMini · Jan 7th, 2004, 05:13 PM

i wentto get an S2000 aerial for the cooper, and the honda garage tried to get me to t rade in for a typeR, tempted but nah. Jap vehicles are very reliable though, good build quality and honda have a reputation for producing good strong cars with an edge.

KJ_daGreenMini · Jan 7th, 2004, 05:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Skinnyrunt

lol...btw they have just facelifted it, it has new front lights

its also 0.4 of a sec faster in its 0-62 speed.

Skinnyrunt · Jan 7th, 2004, 05:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by KJ_daGreenMini

its also 0.4 of a sec faster in its 0-62 speed.

good point, can't believe I forgot that one. Did you see the CTR on driven....it beat an S2000 around a track (just)

Ginger · Jan 7th, 2004, 05:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

The R-type is available in the US, it's called the Si

If I were doing it all again I'd probably go for the R-type

When I originally was buying a MINI I did test drive the R-type and found it a truely superb car but a bit manic compared to the MINI. However now given my apathy towards MINI I'd prefer an R-type

I'm tempted at the moment to go to a Honda dealship and see if I can do a straight swap for one

Martin,
More problems with your S? Hope not. The Type R is awesome, but a bit manic in my view for everyday use.

Martin L · Jan 7th, 2004, 05:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ginger

Martin,
More problems with your S? Hope not. The Type R is awesome, but a bit manic in my view for everyday use.

I'm bored of my MINI

The new suspension setup has killed a fantastic car

I feel al the character has gone. It's now just a means of getting from A to B. I'm thinking a year or so sabatical from MINI could do me some good.
An R-type could just be the fillup I'm looking for

Paul · Jan 7th, 2004, 05:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

I'm bored of my MINI

The new suspension setup has killed a fantastic car

I feel al the character has gone. It's now just a means of getting from A to B. I'm thinking a year or so sabatical from MINI could do me some good.
An R-type could just be the fillup I'm looking for

I'm thinking about getting an aftermarket (or Schnitzer, which is kind of official) spring setup and some new wheels and tyres.

I'm enjoying this 'S' more than any other MINI I've spun around in, despite the softer suspension. But I think that's quite easily solved.

Just need to find some cash! Which isn't so easily solved!

Ginger · Jan 7th, 2004, 05:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

I'm bored of my MINI

The new suspension setup has killed a fantastic car

I feel al the character has gone. It's now just a means of getting from A to B. I'm thinking a year or so sabatical from MINI could do me some good.
An R-type could just be the fillup I'm looking for

Can't say I've driven a Cooper S since the Works one in the summer. I've heard about these changes but didn't realise things were this bad. I did drive a 53 plated Cooper just before Christmas and noticed no changes with that. Still think I may get an S in time though - would have one over the Type-R any day of the week.

G

Martin L · Jan 7th, 2004, 06:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

I'm thinking about getting an aftermarket (or Schnitzer, which is kind of official) spring setup and some new wheels and tyres.

I'm enjoying this 'S' more than any other MINI I've spun around in, despite the softer suspension. But I think that's quite easily solved.

Just need to find some cash! Which isn't so easily solved!

The problem with Schnitzer is that I want to keep my insurance premiums low....
Not sure how possible that is after my "ditch" incident last year

Anyhow my current insurers are by far the cheapest (around £500) but don't allow aftermarket upgrade so I'm a bit of a quandry....

I guess I'll investigate in June when my premiums are up for renewall

Rob. · Jan 7th, 2004, 08:55 PM

I test drove the type r recently. Nice car, especially with the recent revisions to the range

New interior trim, lights, bumpers etc. engine revisions.
However, I found the steering overly assisted, it was too light for me. Also the brakes did not seems as good as on my cooper, may have just been the test car

They didn't seem to have much 'feel', i didn't know i was going to stop until I had stopped, if you know what i mean.
The rate at which the rev's rise, and speed, is very quick if not unbelieveable. The handling seemed good, but the car wandered a little, probably due to the 17" alloys. You do sit quite high, which I still don't know if I minded or not.
Overall I wasn't impressed enough to replace my cooper

KenL · Jan 7th, 2004, 09:10 PM

Thanks for your explanation pocket_rocket.

Unfortunately I'm now blind after reading your text

pocket_rocket · Jan 7th, 2004, 09:34 PM

Guess you won't be needing that MINI then.. fork it over!

Sorry about that.. I changed!!

Quote: Originally Posted by KenL

Thanks for your explanation pocket_rocket.

Unfortunately I'm now blind after reading your text

pocket_rocket · Jan 7th, 2004, 09:38 PM

My 2003 Civic Si is made in Swindon England with the Type R but the Civic Si is NOT the same thing as the Type R.

The Type R has 200hp the Si has 160 hp. But to make it even more confusing.. in Canada, the Si = the SiR which is still only 160 hp. The main reason the USA does not have the REAL Type R is that it would compete too closely in price and performance to the Acura <Honda> RSX Type S which is also 200 hp like the Type R.

Anyhow.. I am trading for the Cooper S that I ordered Dec 20th. There are miles of difference between the Si and the Cooper S..160 hp vs 163 but the supercharger makes much more torque than the normally aspirated 160 hp of the Si.
If we had the Type R it would be a hot competition as I can imagine it is "across the pond"

Craig

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

The R-type is available in the US, it's called the Si

Washy · Jan 8th, 2004, 08:32 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

I'm thinking about getting an aftermarket (or Schnitzer, which is kind of official) spring setup and some new wheels and tyres.

I'm enjoying this 'S' more than any other MINI I've spun around in, despite the softer suspension. But I think that's quite easily solved.

Just need to find some cash! Which isn't so easily solved!

Have you had a go in W's Schnitzer demo Paul? I haven't driven it, but it looks very low.

Paul · Jan 8th, 2004, 09:14 AM

The Cooper? I've driven the Cooper with the springs on it, very nice.

Rich-UK · Jan 8th, 2004, 09:42 AM

I've driven them both, The Type-R is quicker but, It's bigger, the interior is boring, it's pretty boring to drive, I didn't like the seats (The Accord Type-R ones are nice though).

But, from 7-9000rpm it sounds like a touring car

I prefer my MCS (to pretty much nay other car out there)

Quentin · Jan 8th, 2004, 11:33 AM

The Type R is a VAN my friends...no need to compare with our beloved one´s, cooper´s and S´s...
Did you ever see where they placed the gear stick? How the hell are you supposed to shift faster than in the mini with that one??? There once was a comparison between the Cooper S, Civic Type R (..or Si) and the Seat Leon Cupra R in the evo (www.evo.co.uk). The result was that even with some 45 HP less than the others, the mini would blow at least the Cupra away...enjoy reading...just have a look at road tests - archive...

KenL · Jan 8th, 2004, 11:45 AM

Some mags have described that the CIVIC Type-R has the best gear change ever!

Jan 7th, 2004, 05:11 PM	#22 (permalink)
Washy Six and out... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: in the country Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 18,702 Offline	It depends if Aiden is speccing one..... I'm sure they have just done a small facelift on the type R and there are some new colours.....I am positive I have seen adark metallic grey one.... 135i M sport convertible

Jan 7th, 2004, 05:29 PM	#28 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 13,666 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ginger Martin, More problems with your S? Hope not. The Type R is awesome, but a bit manic in my view for everyday use. I'm bored of my MINI The new suspension setup has killed a fantastic car I feel al the character has gone. It's now just a means of getting from A to B. I'm thinking a year or so sabatical from MINI could do me some good. An R-type could just be the fillup I'm looking for MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

Jan 7th, 2004, 05:33 PM	#29 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L I'm bored of my MINI The new suspension setup has killed a fantastic car I feel al the character has gone. It's now just a means of getting from A to B. I'm thinking a year or so sabatical from MINI could do me some good. An R-type could just be the fillup I'm looking for I'm thinking about getting an aftermarket (or Schnitzer, which is kind of official) spring setup and some new wheels and tyres. I'm enjoying this 'S' more than any other MINI I've spun around in, despite the softer suspension. But I think that's quite easily solved. Just need to find some cash! Which isn't so easily solved! Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Jan 7th, 2004, 06:01 PM	#31 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 13,666 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett I'm thinking about getting an aftermarket (or Schnitzer, which is kind of official) spring setup and some new wheels and tyres. I'm enjoying this 'S' more than any other MINI I've spun around in, despite the softer suspension. But I think that's quite easily solved. Just need to find some cash! Which isn't so easily solved! The problem with Schnitzer is that I want to keep my insurance premiums low.... Not sure how possible that is after my "ditch" incident last year Anyhow my current insurers are by far the cheapest (around £500) but don't allow aftermarket upgrade so I'm a bit of a quandry.... I guess I'll investigate in June when my premiums are up for renewall MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

Jan 7th, 2004, 09:10 PM	#33 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 5,102 Offline	Thanks for your explanation pocket_rocket. Unfortunately I'm now blind after reading your text Red/Black R56 Cooper

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Jan 7th, 2004, 05:10 PM	#21
Skinnyrunt M2 Bapmaster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: cheshire/staffs bord Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 3,136 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ABG One last thought - I love to see a "speccing my Type R thread". With 3 colours and almost no options it would be a short discussion That's not too bad, when my dad ordered his Integra it was only available in white and something like 4 available options

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Jan 7th, 2004, 05:13 PM	#23 (permalink)
Skinnyrunt M2 Bapmaster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: cheshire/staffs bord Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 3,136 Offline	lol...btw they have just facelifted it, it has new front lights

Jan 7th, 2004, 05:13 PM	#24 (permalink)
KJ_daGreenMini what happened to that boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 1,625 Offline	i wentto get an S2000 aerial for the cooper, and the honda garage tried to get me to t rade in for a typeR, tempted but nah. Jap vehicles are very reliable though, good build quality and honda have a reputation for producing good strong cars with an edge.

Jan 7th, 2004, 05:14 PM	#25 (permalink)
KJ_daGreenMini what happened to that boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 1,625 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Skinnyrunt lol...btw they have just facelifted it, it has new front lights its also 0.4 of a sec faster in its 0-62 speed.

Jan 7th, 2004, 05:16 PM	#26 (permalink)
Skinnyrunt M2 Bapmaster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: cheshire/staffs bord Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 3,136 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by KJ_daGreenMini its also 0.4 of a sec faster in its 0-62 speed. good point, can't believe I forgot that one. Did you see the CTR on driven....it beat an S2000 around a track (just)

Jan 7th, 2004, 05:18 PM	#27 (permalink)
Ginger Lovin my iPod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Back darn sarf Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 1,957 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L The R-type is available in the US, it's called the Si If I were doing it all again I'd probably go for the R-type When I originally was buying a MINI I did test drive the R-type and found it a truely superb car but a bit manic compared to the MINI. However now given my apathy towards MINI I'd prefer an R-type I'm tempted at the moment to go to a Honda dealship and see if I can do a straight swap for one Martin, More problems with your S? Hope not. The Type R is awesome, but a bit manic in my view for everyday use.

Jan 7th, 2004, 05:52 PM	#30 (permalink)
Ginger Lovin my iPod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Back darn sarf Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 1,957 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L I'm bored of my MINI The new suspension setup has killed a fantastic car I feel al the character has gone. It's now just a means of getting from A to B. I'm thinking a year or so sabatical from MINI could do me some good. An R-type could just be the fillup I'm looking for Can't say I've driven a Cooper S since the Works one in the summer. I've heard about these changes but didn't realise things were this bad. I did drive a 53 plated Cooper just before Christmas and noticed no changes with that. Still think I may get an S in time though - would have one over the Type-R any day of the week. G

Jan 7th, 2004, 08:55 PM	#32 (permalink)
Rob. MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Middlesbrough UK Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 1,616 Offline	I test drove the type r recently. Nice car, especially with the recent revisions to the range New interior trim, lights, bumpers etc. engine revisions. However, I found the steering overly assisted, it was too light for me. Also the brakes did not seems as good as on my cooper, may have just been the test car They didn't seem to have much 'feel', i didn't know i was going to stop until I had stopped, if you know what i mean. The rate at which the rev's rise, and speed, is very quick if not unbelieveable. The handling seemed good, but the car wandered a little, probably due to the 17" alloys. You do sit quite high, which I still don't know if I minded or not. Overall I wasn't impressed enough to replace my cooper

Jan 7th, 2004, 09:34 PM	#34 (permalink)
pocket_rocket Outlaw Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bucks County, PA Local Time: 08:48 PM Posts: 432 Offline	Guess you won't be needing that MINI then.. fork it over! Sorry about that.. I changed!! Quote: Originally Posted by KenL Thanks for your explanation pocket_rocket. Unfortunately I'm now blind after reading your text "Blitzen" 04 MCS Electric Blue / White over Lapis Blue Interior "Gina" 06 Electric Blue Mistubishi Evolution IX Click --> <-- for My MINIs On Top Gallery.

Jan 7th, 2004, 09:38 PM	#35 (permalink)
pocket_rocket Outlaw Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bucks County, PA Local Time: 08:48 PM Posts: 432 Offline	My 2003 Civic Si is made in Swindon England with the Type R but the Civic Si is NOT the same thing as the Type R. The Type R has 200hp the Si has 160 hp. But to make it even more confusing.. in Canada, the Si = the SiR which is still only 160 hp. The main reason the USA does not have the REAL Type R is that it would compete too closely in price and performance to the Acura <Honda> RSX Type S which is also 200 hp like the Type R. Anyhow.. I am trading for the Cooper S that I ordered Dec 20th. There are miles of difference between the Si and the Cooper S..160 hp vs 163 but the supercharger makes much more torque than the normally aspirated 160 hp of the Si. If we had the Type R it would be a hot competition as I can imagine it is "across the pond" Craig Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L The R-type is available in the US, it's called the Si "Blitzen" 04 MCS Electric Blue / White over Lapis Blue Interior "Gina" 06 Electric Blue Mistubishi Evolution IX Click --> <-- for My MINIs On Top Gallery.

Jan 8th, 2004, 08:32 AM	#36 (permalink)
Washy Six and out... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: in the country Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 18,702 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett I'm thinking about getting an aftermarket (or Schnitzer, which is kind of official) spring setup and some new wheels and tyres. I'm enjoying this 'S' more than any other MINI I've spun around in, despite the softer suspension. But I think that's quite easily solved. Just need to find some cash! Which isn't so easily solved! Have you had a go in W's Schnitzer demo Paul? I haven't driven it, but it looks very low. 135i M sport convertible Last edited by Washy : Jan 8th, 2004 at 09:32 AM.

Jan 8th, 2004, 09:14 AM	#37 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	The Cooper? I've driven the Cooper with the springs on it, very nice. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Jan 8th, 2004, 09:42 AM	#38 (permalink)
Rich-UK MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bucks, UK Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 252 Offline	I've driven them both, The Type-R is quicker but, It's bigger, the interior is boring, it's pretty boring to drive, I didn't like the seats (The Accord Type-R ones are nice though). But, from 7-9000rpm it sounds like a touring car I prefer my MCS (to pretty much nay other car out there) 2002 Porsche Boxster

Jan 8th, 2004, 11:33 AM	#39 (permalink)
Quentin MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Minden, Germany (yes, German, but not as bad as media wants you to believe...) Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 50 Offline	The Type R is a VAN my friends...no need to compare with our beloved one´s, cooper´s and S´s... Did you ever see where they placed the gear stick? How the hell are you supposed to shift faster than in the mini with that one??? There once was a comparison between the Cooper S, Civic Type R (..or Si) and the Seat Leon Cupra R in the evo (www.evo.co.uk). The result was that even with some 45 HP less than the others, the mini would blow at least the Cupra away...enjoy reading...just have a look at road tests - archive...

Jan 8th, 2004, 11:45 AM	#40 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 5,102 Offline	Some mags have described that the CIVIC Type-R has the best gear change ever! Red/Black R56 Cooper

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