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adamlondon · Jan 7th, 2004, 03:03 AM

The day before I ordered my MCS I went to test drive the Honda Civic Type R. I really wanted the Type R, and on the plus side it was even cheaper than the MCS, but by the time I had finished my test drive my insurance company had finished the calculations on re-mortgaging my flat to cover the premium! (in short it would have been £3000+ per year

). However, in hindsight I feel that I made the right choice with the Mini, despite being a slightly slower car. I am rather interested to know if anyone here has been tempted to stray from the righteous path of Mini and buy a Type R, or conversely have any Type R owners seen the light and moved over to Mini? And to be honest, even if you have no idea what a Type R is it would be nice to hear from you, as it is rather depressing to post a thread and get no replies! Talk amongst yourselves...

Adam

NEMINI · Jan 7th, 2004, 03:08 AM

I'd never buy any Japanese vehicle, been in an accident with a honda and a nissan ... the honda was the scariest, 35 mph accident passenger door was pushed tight against the stick shift, thankfully no passenger was in that car or ..... well you get the idea, those images always come to my mind when anyone mentions Japanese vehicles, I just can't past them.

adamlondon · Jan 7th, 2004, 03:14 AM

I was not aware of that. However (and correct me if Im wrong), I dont think the Type R is available in the US. And if it is, go for a test drive, just for a laugh. It is @&£$*@ quick and is the super-hot-hatch to beat at moment in Europe. Unlike the Mini though it has no real character and seems soul-less, but I would recomend it as a good way to kill an hour on a day off...

MINIAC · Jan 7th, 2004, 03:16 AM

... not another Cooper S vs Civic Type R thread:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...ght=civic+type

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...ght=civic+type

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...ght=civic+type

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...ght=civic+type

adamlondon · Jan 7th, 2004, 03:28 AM

Sorry, Im new here and was not aware of them. If its repetative then kill the thread...

KenL · Jan 7th, 2004, 07:14 AM

My friend has one and gives me a lift in in regularly. Points to note are:

1. It is huge
2. Seems very well put together, no real rattles etc A bit bland inside but that's only compared with the MINI which is over the top for a lot of tastes.
3. Seats are superb
4. Very noisy engine even in town - some may feel that's part of the experience though
5. Extremely quick - faster than a standard S
6. Equipment spec not as good. No traction control, only 2 airbags, AC is a £1200 option.
7. Ride a bit more jittery than a MINI
8. Insurance gp 17 v 15 for S
9. No TLC

First service cost £135.

On the whole it is an excellent car. I would consider one against an S if it wasn't so big (my wife likes a wee car) and more expemsive to run than a MINI.

KenL · Jan 7th, 2004, 07:15 AM

Oh, I don't think the version of the Type-R we get here is available in the US.

Martin L · Jan 7th, 2004, 08:17 AM

The R-type is available in the US, it's called the Si

If I were doing it all again I'd probably go for the R-type

When I originally was buying a MINI I did test drive the R-type and found it a truely superb car but a bit manic compared to the MINI. However now given my apathy towards MINI I'd prefer an R-type

I'm tempted at the moment to go to a Honda dealship and see if I can do a straight swap for one

adamlondon · Jan 7th, 2004, 11:48 AM

Im pretty sure that the Si is a seperate model from the Type R, as the Type R is only built in Swindon in the UK, and goes under no other names. A word of warning though, i found the difference in cost between insurance group 15 and 17 rather alot. I nearly bought the Type R after the test drive without even checking what the insurance would be. Good thing I didnt, but I was amazed that the MCS insurance was nearly half the price of the Honda. Strange eh...

duncanbanana · Jan 7th, 2004, 11:54 AM

my friend has a type R the road noise when driving around town is quite loud for a modern car .it actually souned like the rear bearings had gone !!! Plus it tram rails on the motorway really badly and it doesnt handle as well as a Mini he says. I think the interior is very bad and i dont like it but each to their own .

Washy · Jan 7th, 2004, 12:25 PM

I test drove a type R and MCS more or less back to back. The Honda is definately quicker and it is good drive, I didn't think it was quite the all round package that the MINI offers though....and I am convinced I would have lost my licence by now if I had bought one as you just feel the need to cane it everywhere to make the most of the engine.

SoggyCornFlakes · Jan 7th, 2004, 12:28 PM

Where OS4M when he's really needed

badboyzbadboyz · Jan 7th, 2004, 12:31 PM

Are there many people who have driven a Civic Type R ? I would like to hear what you think of it compared to a MCS.

Leadfootlen · Jan 7th, 2004, 03:41 PM

I havnt driven a Type R, my friend has one and it is quick. But the handlings not as good, in an a shoot out off the lights and again on the test track (ok M4) my MCS was quicker. But I have a few mods to take me to just over 200bhp.

They are nice cars though, would definatly consider one if the MCS wasnt available.

Skinnyrunt · Jan 7th, 2004, 03:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by washy

I am convinced I would have lost my licence by now if I had bought one as you just feel the need to cane it everywhere to make the most of the engine.

I couldn't agree more, you do just want to can ethe engine to hear the vtec @ 8500rpm

Paul · Jan 7th, 2004, 03:58 PM

My main problem with the Type R (and call me fickle if you like), is that it is SO BLOOMIN UGLY. Sorry, but I like to have a car that looks AND drive nicely. Or at least isn't offensive to look at.

Washy · Jan 7th, 2004, 04:00 PM

It is a bit wedgy.....

Paul · Jan 7th, 2004, 04:01 PM

And any school boy knows, wedgies are not good.

Washy · Jan 7th, 2004, 04:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

And any school boy knows, wedgies are not good.

ABG · Jan 7th, 2004, 04:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by adamlondon69

Sorry, Im new here and was not aware of them. If its repetative then kill the thread...

I don't think there are too many topics which haven't been brought up before - but so what! MINI2 has new member joining every day - and if all we did was read old threads it would be a pretty dull place.

I suggested the Type R to my wife - she asked for a picture and ruled it out on sight! It is the most shapeless lump of metal (great value and very practical tho'.). A 200bhp MINI can keep up easily

One last thought - I love to see a "speccing my Type R thread". With 3 colours and almost no options it would be a short discussion

Jan 7th, 2004, 03:03 AM	#1
adamlondon MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Local Time: 07:00 PM Posts: 427 Offline	Cooper S vs Civic Type R The day before I ordered my MCS I went to test drive the Honda Civic Type R. I really wanted the Type R, and on the plus side it was even cheaper than the MCS, but by the time I had finished my test drive my insurance company had finished the calculations on re-mortgaging my flat to cover the premium! (in short it would have been £3000+ per year ). However, in hindsight I feel that I made the right choice with the Mini, despite being a slightly slower car. I am rather interested to know if anyone here has been tempted to stray from the righteous path of Mini and buy a Type R, or conversely have any Type R owners seen the light and moved over to Mini? And to be honest, even if you have no idea what a Type R is it would be nice to hear from you, as it is rather depressing to post a thread and get no replies! Talk amongst yourselves... Adam

Jan 7th, 2004, 03:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 02:00 PM Posts: 7,911 Offline	I'd never buy any Japanese vehicle, been in an accident with a honda and a nissan ... the honda was the scariest, 35 mph accident passenger door was pushed tight against the stick shift, thankfully no passenger was in that car or ..... well you get the idea, those images always come to my mind when anyone mentions Japanese vehicles, I just can't past them. NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Jan 7th, 2004, 07:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 5,223 Offline	My friend has one and gives me a lift in in regularly. Points to note are: 1. It is huge 2. Seems very well put together, no real rattles etc A bit bland inside but that's only compared with the MINI which is over the top for a lot of tastes. 3. Seats are superb 4. Very noisy engine even in town - some may feel that's part of the experience though 5. Extremely quick - faster than a standard S 6. Equipment spec not as good. No traction control, only 2 airbags, AC is a £1200 option. 7. Ride a bit more jittery than a MINI 8. Insurance gp 17 v 15 for S 9. No TLC First service cost £135. On the whole it is an excellent car. I would consider one against an S if it wasn't so big (my wife likes a wee car) and more expemsive to run than a MINI. Red/Black R56 Cooper

Jan 7th, 2004, 07:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 5,223 Offline	Oh, I don't think the version of the Type-R we get here is available in the US. Red/Black R56 Cooper

Jan 7th, 2004, 08:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 13,635 Offline	The R-type is available in the US, it's called the Si If I were doing it all again I'd probably go for the R-type When I originally was buying a MINI I did test drive the R-type and found it a truely superb car but a bit manic compared to the MINI. However now given my apathy towards MINI I'd prefer an R-type I'm tempted at the moment to go to a Honda dealship and see if I can do a straight swap for one MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

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Jan 7th, 2004, 03:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
adamlondon MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Local Time: 07:00 PM Posts: 427 Offline	I was not aware of that. However (and correct me if Im wrong), I dont think the Type R is available in the US. And if it is, go for a test drive, just for a laugh. It is @&£$*@ quick and is the super-hot-hatch to beat at moment in Europe. Unlike the Mini though it has no real character and seems soul-less, but I would recomend it as a good way to kill an hour on a day off...

Jan 7th, 2004, 03:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 12:00 PM Posts: 8,670 Online	... not another Cooper S vs Civic Type R thread: http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...ght=civic+type http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...ght=civic+type http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...ght=civic+type http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...ght=civic+type

Jan 7th, 2004, 03:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
adamlondon MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Local Time: 07:00 PM Posts: 427 Offline	Sorry, Im new here and was not aware of them. If its repetative then kill the thread...

Jan 7th, 2004, 11:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
adamlondon MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Local Time: 07:00 PM Posts: 427 Offline	Im pretty sure that the Si is a seperate model from the Type R, as the Type R is only built in Swindon in the UK, and goes under no other names. A word of warning though, i found the difference in cost between insurance group 15 and 17 rather alot. I nearly bought the Type R after the test drive without even checking what the insurance would be. Good thing I didnt, but I was amazed that the MCS insurance was nearly half the price of the Honda. Strange eh...

Jan 7th, 2004, 11:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
duncanbanana Yeah...I know !!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North West Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 1,231 Offline	my friend has a type R the road noise when driving around town is quite loud for a modern car .it actually souned like the rear bearings had gone !!! Plus it tram rails on the motorway really badly and it doesnt handle as well as a Mini he says. I think the interior is very bad and i dont like it but each to their own .

Jan 7th, 2004, 12:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Washy seventh heaven? Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: in the country Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 18,473 Offline	I test drove a type R and MCS more or less back to back. The Honda is definately quicker and it is good drive, I didn't think it was quite the all round package that the MINI offers though....and I am convinced I would have lost my licence by now if I had bought one as you just feel the need to cane it everywhere to make the most of the engine. Black to the future....

Jan 7th, 2004, 12:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
SoggyCornFlakes Awwww %%%% it! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northampton Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 33,479 Offline	Where OS4M when he's really needed Cotswolds 6, you sixy thing you, come join the fun MINI2 Charity Ball 2009 ....... Global Moderator

Jan 7th, 2004, 12:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
badboyzbadboyz MINI2 Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 07:00 PM Posts: 1,257 Offline	Are there many people who have driven a Civic Type R ? I would like to hear what you think of it compared to a MCS.

Jan 7th, 2004, 03:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
Leadfootlen MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Kingston, Surrey, En Local Time: 07:00 PM Posts: 85 Offline	I havnt driven a Type R, my friend has one and it is quick. But the handlings not as good, in an a shoot out off the lights and again on the test track (ok M4) my MCS was quicker. But I have a few mods to take me to just over 200bhp. They are nice cars though, would definatly consider one if the MCS wasnt available. "May The Force Not See You" 2002 Cooper S, 209+Bhp Minispeed Stage II Tuning Kit, Pipercross Induction Kit

Jan 7th, 2004, 03:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
Skinnyrunt M2 Bapmaster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: cheshire/staffs bord Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 3,145 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by washy I am convinced I would have lost my licence by now if I had bought one as you just feel the need to cane it everywhere to make the most of the engine. I couldn't agree more, you do just want to can ethe engine to hear the vtec @ 8500rpm

Jan 7th, 2004, 03:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 41,220 Offline	My main problem with the Type R (and call me fickle if you like), is that it is SO BLOOMIN UGLY. Sorry, but I like to have a car that looks AND drive nicely. Or at least isn't offensive to look at. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Jan 7th, 2004, 04:00 PM	#17 (permalink)
Washy seventh heaven? Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: in the country Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 18,473 Offline	It is a bit wedgy..... Black to the future....

Jan 7th, 2004, 04:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 41,220 Offline	And any school boy knows, wedgies are not good. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Jan 7th, 2004, 04:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
Washy seventh heaven? Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: in the country Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 18,473 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett And any school boy knows, wedgies are not good. Black to the future....

Jan 7th, 2004, 04:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
ABG Yatta!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Local Time: 08:00 PM Posts: 8,434 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by adamlondon69 Sorry, Im new here and was not aware of them. If its repetative then kill the thread... I don't think there are too many topics which haven't been brought up before - but so what! MINI2 has new member joining every day - and if all we did was read old threads it would be a pretty dull place. I suggested the Type R to my wife - she asked for a picture and ruled it out on sight! It is the most shapeless lump of metal (great value and very practical tho'.). A 200bhp MINI can keep up easily One last thought - I love to see a "speccing my Type R thread". With 3 colours and almost no options it would be a short discussion

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