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Phil Craddock · Mar 11th, 2002, 06:17 AM

Don't flame me but just had a quick scan thru' latest issue of EVO mag and apparently BMW Motorsport dept. are working on a MINI Cooper M and they say if the chasis can handle it, it will have around 220bhp

not sure if it is supercharged or normally aspirated I guess normal aspiration if it will be a Cooper M.

Dom · Mar 11th, 2002, 06:24 AM

There was talk of this earlier but it was dismissed as just rumour. However, I am expecting something to come from the M-tech or Alpina department. I'd expect it to be naturally aspirated too, on throttle bodies like the other M's. However, they may just somehow squeeze a 1.8 in the front and whack a supercharger on there. Being a small car and fwd, I guess it would be new territory for them.

Dom

Basil · Mar 11th, 2002, 07:32 AM

Would be nice to see an M-POWER version....... If history serves, the Alpina will be a little over the top, in the styling department, and the M nice and undertsated.

I would guess any or both versions will remain in the dark until the release of the Cooper S.

spanky2k · Mar 11th, 2002, 07:36 AM

That would be nice! Although I think it would be taking the mini a bit too far.

Dom · Mar 11th, 2002, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil
Would be nice to see an M-POWER version....... If history serves, the Alpina will be a little over the top, in the styling department, and the M nice and undertsated.

I would guess any or both versions will remain in the dark until the release of the Cooper S.

The Alpina's generally aren't slow either. And the M would just be an animal!

I'm not sure if 220bhp (if that is what it ends up as) would come from a 1.6 as that's quite a high figure. However, a 1.8 might upset the handling.

Anyway, here's to hoping the M or the alpina do actually come out!

Dom

An_S_4_Me · Mar 11th, 2002, 07:51 AM

How about ditching the rear seats altogether and having the engine in the back.

I know it's ridiculous!

Andy

smiffy · Mar 11th, 2002, 07:54 AM

I can just see it now a standard Cooper with M badges

Racer · Mar 11th, 2002, 08:03 AM

I posted this EVO to the Media forum about a week ago thought I was doing the right thing putting in the right place -

Basil · Mar 11th, 2002, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Racer
I posted this EVO to the Media forum about a week ago thought I was doing the right thing putting in the right place -

Speaking for myself, I don't go in there very often.....plus i'm pretty busy these days trying to put my windscreen back in after replacing the wiper blades......

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.............

Phil Craddock · Mar 11th, 2002, 08:35 AM

sorry Racer

You 'da man

Yurinaut · Mar 11th, 2002, 08:49 AM

With the MINI being a seperate brand, I seriously doubt we will ever see an actual M badge on the MINI. What we may get however is something the the M division cooked up and sold with some other moniker. I would think that they would stick with the Joh Cooper Works Edition as the "M" equivilent since it fits with tradition and from what we have heard, will pass U.S. emissions testing.

I hope the Works kit is available when my S gets here!

-Mike

AER · Mar 11th, 2002, 09:27 AM

Quote:

, the Alpina will be a little over the top, in the styling department,

When has an Alpina been a little over the top, and in what context are you reffering to?
You can't count the latest products as they are incredibly understated, and the pic of the Alpina MINI is incorrect, so that can't be used.
The only time they were fairly flamboyant were during the 70's and early 80's with their side graphics, but not any more.
Plus, they'll give any M produced car a serious scare in the performance stakes.

Paul · Mar 11th, 2002, 10:25 AM

I've heard rumours of an 'M' Cooper for just as long as I've heard rumours of the 'Alpina MINI'.

Neither have come to light.

I have had an 'M' bluntly dismissed by several people inside MINI, as they say why would they use the BMW 'M' brand on a car they are trying to keep apart from BMW.

Damo · Mar 11th, 2002, 10:38 AM

I seriously doubt there'll be an M Cooper either. There might be a cooper by M but not an M Cooper. I can see them coming up with a new "Performance division" for the Mini Brand. Any sugestions on a letter? Hmmmm BMW has M so Maybe Mini could have I

///AMG is takem , M is taken, S is taken (Audi). Hmmmmmmm How about VFF? Very F'ing Fast!

Mini Cooper VFF

Or would it be VFF Mini Cooper.

Yeah VFF Mini Cooper!

Racer · Mar 11th, 2002, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil

Speaking for myself, I don't go in there very often.....plus i'm pretty busy these days trying to put my windscreen back in after replacing the wiper blades......

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.............

Sponsorship decals are driving me mad - windows in windows out windows in .........don't 'spose there is any chance of letting me forget this

spanky2k · Mar 11th, 2002, 11:32 AM

Not to mention some people would get "M Cooper" mixed up with "M Coupe".

...

Well, some people would wouldn't they!?

...

Wouldn't they?

...

Ok, I'll just hide under this stone and hope no one notices me.

Phil Craddock · Mar 11th, 2002, 11:54 AM

or M Cooper........Mike Cooper

AndyW · Mar 11th, 2002, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Racer

Sponsorship decals are driving me mad - windows in windows out windows in .........don't 'spose there is any chance of letting me forget this

WOW

Just read the thread that Racer is referring to (found it after a quick search) - it's here and definitely worth a read just for a laugh

Sorry to drag it up again fellas!

Cheers

Andy

Racer · Mar 11th, 2002, 02:44 PM

LMFAO

groovy_jr · Mar 11th, 2002, 03:16 PM

BMW Motorsport will probably do work on an already built mondel! They will never bring out a Cooper M - there is no sense to it. They would struggle to get much faster than a Cooper S especially when BMW's priority is Safety!

Although it would be cool!

Mar 11th, 2002, 06:17 AM	#1
Phil Craddock MINI2 Sponsor My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Planet Pirate Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 2,287 Offline	BMW Cooper M Don't flame me but just had a quick scan thru' latest issue of EVO mag and apparently BMW Motorsport dept. are working on a MINI Cooper M and they say if the chasis can handle it, it will have around 220bhp not sure if it is supercharged or normally aspirated I guess normal aspiration if it will be a Cooper M. Crazy Phil aka The Pirate www.minipirate.com

Mar 11th, 2002, 07:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
spanky2k MINI2 Crash Test Driver Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brighton Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 1,384 Offline	That would be nice! Although I think it would be taking the mini a bit too far. Spanky2k Officially the worst MINI driver in the Universe!!!

Mar 11th, 2002, 07:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
An_S_4_Me MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wakefield, UK Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 572 Offline	How about ditching the rear seats altogether and having the engine in the back. I know it's ridiculous! Andy DS Cooper S w/white bits, DSC, 1/2 Leather all black trim, CHILI Pack, TLC - ARRIVED 01/07/02 Sold 29th May 2004 to make way for house

Mar 11th, 2002, 07:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
smiffy MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Here Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 5,718 Offline	I can just see it now a standard Cooper with M badges S for Smiffy "Kids in the front seat cause accidents, accidents in the backseat cause kids!"

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Mar 11th, 2002, 06:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 8,420 Offline	There was talk of this earlier but it was dismissed as just rumour. However, I am expecting something to come from the M-tech or Alpina department. I'd expect it to be naturally aspirated too, on throttle bodies like the other M's. However, they may just somehow squeeze a 1.8 in the front and whack a supercharger on there. Being a small car and fwd, I guess it would be new territory for them. Dom

Mar 11th, 2002, 07:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 10:48 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Would be nice to see an M-POWER version....... If history serves, the Alpina will be a little over the top, in the styling department, and the M nice and undertsated. I would guess any or both versions will remain in the dark until the release of the Cooper S.

Mar 11th, 2002, 07:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 8,420 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil Would be nice to see an M-POWER version....... If history serves, the Alpina will be a little over the top, in the styling department, and the M nice and undertsated. I would guess any or both versions will remain in the dark until the release of the Cooper S. The Alpina's generally aren't slow either. And the M would just be an animal! I'm not sure if 220bhp (if that is what it ends up as) would come from a 1.6 as that's quite a high figure. However, a 1.8 might upset the handling. Anyway, here's to hoping the M or the alpina do actually come out! Dom

Mar 11th, 2002, 08:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 10:48 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Racer I posted this EVO to the Media forum about a week ago thought I was doing the right thing putting in the right place - Speaking for myself, I don't go in there very often.....plus i'm pretty busy these days trying to put my windscreen back in after replacing the wiper blades...... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.............

Mar 11th, 2002, 08:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
Phil Craddock MINI2 Sponsor My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Planet Pirate Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 2,287 Offline	sorry Racer You 'da man Crazy Phil aka The Pirate www.minipirate.com

Mar 11th, 2002, 08:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
Yurinaut MINI2 Sponsor & Moderator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: North Carolina Local Time: 07:48 PM Posts: 181 Offline	With the MINI being a seperate brand, I seriously doubt we will ever see an actual M badge on the MINI. What we may get however is something the the M division cooked up and sold with some other moniker. I would think that they would stick with the Joh Cooper Works Edition as the "M" equivilent since it fits with tradition and from what we have heard, will pass U.S. emissions testing. I hope the Works kit is available when my S gets here! -Mike "As cunning as a fox named Cunning...."

Mar 11th, 2002, 09:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
AER MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Herts, UK Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 105 Offline	Alpina a little over the top??? Quote: , the Alpina will be a little over the top, in the styling department, When has an Alpina been a little over the top, and in what context are you reffering to? You can't count the latest products as they are incredibly understated, and the pic of the Alpina MINI is incorrect, so that can't be used. The only time they were fairly flamboyant were during the 70's and early 80's with their side graphics, but not any more. Plus, they'll give any M produced car a serious scare in the performance stakes.

Mar 11th, 2002, 10:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	I've heard rumours of an 'M' Cooper for just as long as I've heard rumours of the 'Alpina MINI'. Neither have come to light. I have had an 'M' bluntly dismissed by several people inside MINI, as they say why would they use the BMW 'M' brand on a car they are trying to keep apart from BMW. Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Mar 11th, 2002, 10:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 10,526 Offline	I seriously doubt there'll be an M Cooper either. There might be a cooper by M but not an M Cooper. I can see them coming up with a new "Performance division" for the Mini Brand. Any sugestions on a letter? Hmmmm BMW has M so Maybe Mini could have I ///AMG is takem , M is taken, S is taken (Audi). Hmmmmmmm How about VFF? Very F'ing Fast! Mini Cooper VFF Or would it be VFF Mini Cooper. Yeah VFF Mini Cooper!

Mar 11th, 2002, 10:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 1,308 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil Speaking for myself, I don't go in there very often.....plus i'm pretty busy these days trying to put my windscreen back in after replacing the wiper blades...... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha............. Sponsorship decals are driving me mad - windows in windows out windows in .........don't 'spose there is any chance of letting me forget this JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

Mar 11th, 2002, 11:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
spanky2k MINI2 Crash Test Driver Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brighton Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 1,384 Offline	Not to mention some people would get "M Cooper" mixed up with "M Coupe". ... Well, some people would wouldn't they!? ... Wouldn't they? ... Ok, I'll just hide under this stone and hope no one notices me. Spanky2k Officially the worst MINI driver in the Universe!!!

Mar 11th, 2002, 11:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
Phil Craddock MINI2 Sponsor My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Planet Pirate Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 2,287 Offline	or M Cooper........Mike Cooper Crazy Phil aka The Pirate www.minipirate.com

Mar 11th, 2002, 02:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
AndyW Ex-Mini2 Racer & Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Surrey Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 562 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Racer Sponsorship decals are driving me mad - windows in windows out windows in .........don't 'spose there is any chance of letting me forget this WOW Just read the thread that Racer is referring to (found it after a quick search) - it's here and definitely worth a read just for a laugh Sorry to drag it up again fellas! Cheers Andy

Mar 11th, 2002, 02:44 PM	#19 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 01:48 AM Posts: 1,308 Offline	LMFAO JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

Mar 11th, 2002, 03:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
groovy_jr MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lincolnshire, UK Local Time: 12:48 AM Posts: 524 Offline	BMW Motorsport will probably do work on an already built mondel! They will never bring out a Cooper M - there is no sense to it. They would struggle to get much faster than a Cooper S especially when BMW's priority is Safety! Although it would be cool!

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