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dinger · Mar 16th, 2002, 08:47 AM

An Xbox

If so whats your opinion of it and is it as good as they say or is it just hype.

Cape Cod MINI · Mar 16th, 2002, 11:49 AM

Dinger,
I've had one since last December. Nice unit, graphics are unsurpassed, controls are a bit bulky, very limited game selection. I would say we still use the PlayStation 2 98% of the time. I'm sure that when the selection of games is greater we will be happier with the Xbox. Grand Theft Auto 3 on Xbox will be nice to have

It is convenient that it has a hard drive to save games.
The PS2 memory card sometimes gets wiped out which is very frustrating.

Kinster · Mar 16th, 2002, 01:51 PM

Don't bother, the XBox is only a 32bit 733mhz Intel processor compared to PS2's and Gamecubes 128bit processors. So you're getting ripped off. Might as well save up a bit more and get a PC...

Nothing beats Super Famicom and Street Fighter 2

Basil · Mar 16th, 2002, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kinster
Don't bother, the XBox is only a 32bit 733mhz Intel processor compared to PS2's and Gamecubes 128bit processors. So you're getting ripped off. Might as well save up a bit more and get a PC...

Nothing beats Super Famicom and Street Fighter 2

The X-Box EATS the ps/2 mate. It's almost a PC itself, supports Direct X etc. This is the games machine to KILL all games machines. PC magazines around the world will need to get on board with this, as some already have acknowledged that PC games sales will be hit. The processor speed is only part of the story, that 733mhz processor is dedicated to running games only, and is sophisticated enough for the software writers to use memory, and graphics api's in the way they want to, instead of having a rigid and unflexible approach that the ps/2 takes.

Sure the ps/2 is a great machine, but watch as the X-Box takes over.........

Silver Surfer · Mar 17th, 2002, 11:50 AM

play nice boys

as my dad is bigger then yours and he will do ya !!!!

LoL

its the qualty of the games not the power

Dogger · Mar 18th, 2002, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil

...It's almost a PC itself...some already have acknowledged that PC games sales will be hit...Sure the ps/2 is a great machine, but watch as the X-Box takes over.........

Hmmmm....surely the whole point of the X box is that it is a PC games console )i.e. a hybrid PC/console machine with more clout?.. PC games have been losing out to consoles for years now in terms of sales, so this is Microsoft's way of covering all the bases. Of the games I've seen running on it so far I haven't been blown away by them..in fact I can't see much difference between the box and the PS2 (except that the X box is about as graceful a design as an early 80's betamax VCR..

)

I've not played one myself, but every review I've read has said that the controler is pants.. Personally I'm more of a Nintendo fan so I'll be getting a sexy litte cube when they come out, or maybe even one of the Panasonic DVD/Cube machines?..

Remember though, that for every review you read on the net (of either console), their hardware and software has probably cost them at least a third less than it does over here..

Kinster · Mar 18th, 2002, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silver Surfer
play nice boys

as my dad is bigger then yours and he will do ya !!!!

LoL

its the qualty of the games not the power

Yeah, of course he is

Kinster · Mar 18th, 2002, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil

The X-Box EATS the ps/2 mate. It's almost a PC itself, supports Direct X etc. This is the games machine to KILL all games machines. PC magazines around the world will need to get on board with this, as some already have acknowledged that PC games sales will be hit. The processor speed is only part of the story, that 733mhz processor is dedicated to running games only, and is sophisticated enough for the software writers to use memory, and graphics api's in the way they want to, instead of having a rigid and unflexible approach that the ps/2 takes.

Sure the ps/2 is a great machine, but watch as the X-Box takes over.........

Well I don't like either of the consoles. I bought a PS2 but sold it within a months cos of the lack of games.

I remember when the PS2 launched, everyone wanted one and everywhere was sold out! Unlike the XBox which no one wants and most stores still have loads in stock.

Shoryuken...

Basil · Mar 18th, 2002, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kinster

Well I don't like either of the consoles. I bought a PS2 but sold it within a months cos of the lack of games.

I remember when the PS2 launched, everyone wanted one and everywhere was sold out! Unlike the XBox which no one wants and most stores still have loads in stock.

Shoryuken...

Play nice.......ha ha ha......

Must confess, that I'm a PC bloke myself, but am impressed by the X-Box as a games console. As Dogger has implied there will be a lot more cross porting of X-Box games to the PC and vice versa. One things for sure, Sony will be hurt by it's precence.

ScottyHP · Mar 18th, 2002, 06:05 AM

From what ive seen its got bags of power, not so sure about the list of games out/coming soon, but, and a very big BUT its £300 plus £30 to get it to play DVD's then another £40 for a game £360 !!!!! £10 more and it pays for my S Spokes with my new mini!!!!. I normally buy every new console that comes out but the X Box will be the exception, as I've already got a decent PC to play FPS etc. Buy a PS2 instead, nows the time lots of decent games coming out soon, plus GT3, Grand Theft Auto 3, Metal Gear Solid 2, Jak and Daxter..... the list goes on plus its £100 less and plays DVD's out of the box. In my opinion the only other console that will rival the PS2 will be the GameCube just wait to see the difference in demand, could be another PS2 situation (but remember the PS2 was released at Christmas)

Dogger · Mar 18th, 2002, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ScottyHP
.... BUT its £300 plus £30 to get it to play DVD's then another £40 for a game £360 !!!!!...In my opinion the only other console that will rival the PS2 will be the GameCube...

Gamecube will be £150 RRP with games at around £35 to start with but expected to drop as competition hots up..

You could probably squeeze a Gamecube onto the dashboard shelf in a MINI to entertain your passengers on long, boring journeys (well the driver has all the fun in a MINI let's face it!

)

You'd be hard pushed to squeeze an X-box into the boot..

Maybe they should re-brand it the Ex-Box...?

Kinster · Mar 18th, 2002, 06:23 AM

XBox = Intel Celeron

ScottyHP · Mar 18th, 2002, 06:51 AM

That is another reason not to buy an X Box it is bloody huge, and looks like a console from the 80's I suppose looks arn't that important......(as long as you hide it in a cabinet!!)

As for the GC install, mmmm sounds interesting....

Kinster, Point noted and agreed!!!!

LMB · Mar 18th, 2002, 07:07 AM

X Box...Well I don't like it. Yes it has nice shinny graphics, but what would you prefer a Mini Cooper or a Clio 172.

One is a beautifully built machine with adequate power the other is reasonably built but goes like **** off a stick.

For me the PS2 is going to win hands down, the X Box will be there but the PS2 will remain the king of consoles.

The PS2 is a beautiful crafted machine, looks the business, you can play DVD's straight from the box, has a superb rang of games (finally) and can now be picked up for £199.

The X Box on the other hand it is ugly, clunky, has a nasty controller, has a limited number of games, costs £299 and apparently scratches discs.

No I will stick with my PS2 thank you.

Oh and the Game Cube, well I hate to say it but I recon it is a bit of too little too late. I recon the delay in its launch in the UK is going to hit sales badly. Alas I feel it is going to suffer a similar fate to the N64. Sad really as I recon it is a much better piece of kit than the X Box.

Time will tell if I am right

LMB

Basil · Mar 18th, 2002, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LMB
....... but what would you prefer a Mini Cooper or a Clio 172.

One is a beautifully built machine with adequate power the other is reasonably built but goes like **** off a stick.

I like the comparison LMB........nice one.

Redhotmini · Mar 18th, 2002, 07:38 AM

METAL GEAR SOLID 2!!!

sorry im addicted to that, bought it last thursday and finished it on friday

ps2 rocks...

Damo · Mar 18th, 2002, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Redhotmini
METAL GEAR SOLID 2!!!

sorry im addicted to that, bought it last thursday and finished it on friday ps2 rocks...

Any suggestions on how to get past Solidus! He'a a pain in the ase. I seem to get his energy right down and then he does these moves I can't block so get killed! Its got that bad that that Geak Ocelot (or is that the guy liquid is now? Always get there names confused) gave me advice but it didn't work!

Redhotmini · Mar 18th, 2002, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Damo

Any suggestions on how to get past Solidus! He'a a pain in the ase. I seem to get his energy right down and then he does these moves I can't block so get killed! Its got that bad that that Geak Ocelot (or is that the guy liquid is now? Always get there names confused) gave me advice but it didn't work!

hahaha lolol! we're talking about games

anyways if your talking about the sword fighting scene at the end- then i can't really help u

u just gotta get close and when he attacks, roll out the way and slice him

its really simple really im playing it on hard now hehehe

best bits the sniper part where u gotta protect the girl

oh ps. any offer me any help on sound systems within the mini?

Dom · Mar 18th, 2002, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Redhotmini

oh ps. any offer me any help on sound systems within the mini?

Ask a question or do a search in the Interior and ICE section of the forum... There's quite a few people in the know (me included

)

Dom

JBean · Mar 18th, 2002, 10:39 AM

Mar 16th, 2002, 08:47 AM	#1
dinger TT or not TT Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tunbridge Wells,Kent Local Time: 04:30 AM Posts: 3,607 Offline	How Many MINI2 members Have Purchased An Xbox If so whats your opinion of it and is it as good as they say or is it just hype.

Mar 16th, 2002, 01:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kinster BarWeetGarNarWeetNinnyBon Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Location: Location Local Time: 05:30 AM Posts: 2,709 Offline	Don't bother, the XBox is only a 32bit 733mhz Intel processor compared to PS2's and Gamecubes 128bit processors. So you're getting ripped off. Might as well save up a bit more and get a PC... Nothing beats Super Famicom and Street Fighter 2 Hyper Blue/Blue MCSC with Chilli 'No man will make a great leader who wants to do it all himself' A. Carnegie

Mar 18th, 2002, 05:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dogger Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Leeds (Garforth) Local Time: 04:30 AM Posts: 358 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil ...It's almost a PC itself...some already have acknowledged that PC games sales will be hit...Sure the ps/2 is a great machine, but watch as the X-Box takes over......... Hmmmm....surely the whole point of the X box is that it is a PC games console )i.e. a hybrid PC/console machine with more clout?.. PC games have been losing out to consoles for years now in terms of sales, so this is Microsoft's way of covering all the bases. Of the games I've seen running on it so far I haven't been blown away by them..in fact I can't see much difference between the box and the PS2 (except that the X box is about as graceful a design as an early 80's betamax VCR..) I've not played one myself, but every review I've read has said that the controler is pants.. Personally I'm more of a Nintendo fan so I'll be getting a sexy litte cube when they come out, or maybe even one of the Panasonic DVD/Cube machines?.. Remember though, that for every review you read on the net (of either console), their hardware and software has probably cost them at least a third less than it does over here..

Mar 18th, 2002, 05:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kinster BarWeetGarNarWeetNinnyBon Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Location: Location Local Time: 05:30 AM Posts: 2,709 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Silver Surfer play nice boys as my dad is bigger then yours and he will do ya !!!! LoL its the qualty of the games not the power Yeah, of course he is Hyper Blue/Blue MCSC with Chilli 'No man will make a great leader who wants to do it all himself' A. Carnegie

Mar 18th, 2002, 05:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
Kinster BarWeetGarNarWeetNinnyBon Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Location: Location Local Time: 05:30 AM Posts: 2,709 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil The X-Box EATS the ps/2 mate. It's almost a PC itself, supports Direct X etc. This is the games machine to KILL all games machines. PC magazines around the world will need to get on board with this, as some already have acknowledged that PC games sales will be hit. The processor speed is only part of the story, that 733mhz processor is dedicated to running games only, and is sophisticated enough for the software writers to use memory, and graphics api's in the way they want to, instead of having a rigid and unflexible approach that the ps/2 takes. Sure the ps/2 is a great machine, but watch as the X-Box takes over......... Well I don't like either of the consoles. I bought a PS2 but sold it within a months cos of the lack of games. I remember when the PS2 launched, everyone wanted one and everywhere was sold out! Unlike the XBox which no one wants and most stores still have loads in stock. Shoryuken... Hyper Blue/Blue MCSC with Chilli 'No man will make a great leader who wants to do it all himself' A. Carnegie

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Mar 16th, 2002, 11:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 5,365 Offline	Dinger, I've had one since last December. Nice unit, graphics are unsurpassed, controls are a bit bulky, very limited game selection. I would say we still use the PlayStation 2 98% of the time. I'm sure that when the selection of games is greater we will be happier with the Xbox. Grand Theft Auto 3 on Xbox will be nice to have It is convenient that it has a hard drive to save games. The PS2 memory card sometimes gets wiped out which is very frustrating.

Mar 16th, 2002, 07:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 02:30 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Kinster Don't bother, the XBox is only a 32bit 733mhz Intel processor compared to PS2's and Gamecubes 128bit processors. So you're getting ripped off. Might as well save up a bit more and get a PC... Nothing beats Super Famicom and Street Fighter 2 The X-Box EATS the ps/2 mate. It's almost a PC itself, supports Direct X etc. This is the games machine to KILL all games machines. PC magazines around the world will need to get on board with this, as some already have acknowledged that PC games sales will be hit. The processor speed is only part of the story, that 733mhz processor is dedicated to running games only, and is sophisticated enough for the software writers to use memory, and graphics api's in the way they want to, instead of having a rigid and unflexible approach that the ps/2 takes. Sure the ps/2 is a great machine, but watch as the X-Box takes over.........

Mar 17th, 2002, 11:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Silver Surfer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: rustington west sussex Local Time: 04:30 AM Posts: 198 Offline	play nice boys as my dad is bigger then yours and he will do ya !!!! LoL its the qualty of the games not the power

Mar 18th, 2002, 05:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 02:30 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Kinster Well I don't like either of the consoles. I bought a PS2 but sold it within a months cos of the lack of games. I remember when the PS2 launched, everyone wanted one and everywhere was sold out! Unlike the XBox which no one wants and most stores still have loads in stock. Shoryuken... Play nice.......ha ha ha...... Must confess, that I'm a PC bloke myself, but am impressed by the X-Box as a games console. As Dogger has implied there will be a lot more cross porting of X-Box games to the PC and vice versa. One things for sure, Sony will be hurt by it's precence.

Mar 18th, 2002, 06:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
ScottyHP MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Telford Local Time: 04:30 AM Posts: 478 Offline	From what ive seen its got bags of power, not so sure about the list of games out/coming soon, but, and a very big BUT its £300 plus £30 to get it to play DVD's then another £40 for a game £360 !!!!! £10 more and it pays for my S Spokes with my new mini!!!!. I normally buy every new console that comes out but the X Box will be the exception, as I've already got a decent PC to play FPS etc. Buy a PS2 instead, nows the time lots of decent games coming out soon, plus GT3, Grand Theft Auto 3, Metal Gear Solid 2, Jak and Daxter..... the list goes on plus its £100 less and plays DVD's out of the box. In my opinion the only other console that will rival the PS2 will be the GameCube just wait to see the difference in demand, could be another PS2 situation (but remember the PS2 was released at Christmas)

Mar 18th, 2002, 06:14 AM	#11 (permalink)
Dogger Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Leeds (Garforth) Local Time: 04:30 AM Posts: 358 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by ScottyHP .... BUT its £300 plus £30 to get it to play DVD's then another £40 for a game £360 !!!!!...In my opinion the only other console that will rival the PS2 will be the GameCube... Gamecube will be £150 RRP with games at around £35 to start with but expected to drop as competition hots up.. You could probably squeeze a Gamecube onto the dashboard shelf in a MINI to entertain your passengers on long, boring journeys (well the driver has all the fun in a MINI let's face it!) You'd be hard pushed to squeeze an X-box into the boot.. Maybe they should re-brand it the Ex-Box...?

Mar 18th, 2002, 06:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kinster BarWeetGarNarWeetNinnyBon Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Location: Location Local Time: 05:30 AM Posts: 2,709 Offline	XBox = Intel Celeron Hyper Blue/Blue MCSC with Chilli 'No man will make a great leader who wants to do it all himself' A. Carnegie

Mar 18th, 2002, 06:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
ScottyHP MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Telford Local Time: 04:30 AM Posts: 478 Offline	That is another reason not to buy an X Box it is bloody huge, and looks like a console from the 80's I suppose looks arn't that important......(as long as you hide it in a cabinet!!) As for the GC install, mmmm sounds interesting.... Kinster, Point noted and agreed!!!!

Mar 18th, 2002, 07:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 05:30 AM Posts: 24,937 Offline	X Box...Well I don't like it. Yes it has nice shinny graphics, but what would you prefer a Mini Cooper or a Clio 172. One is a beautifully built machine with adequate power the other is reasonably built but goes like **** off a stick. For me the PS2 is going to win hands down, the X Box will be there but the PS2 will remain the king of consoles. The PS2 is a beautiful crafted machine, looks the business, you can play DVD's straight from the box, has a superb rang of games (finally) and can now be picked up for £199. The X Box on the other hand it is ugly, clunky, has a nasty controller, has a limited number of games, costs £299 and apparently scratches discs. No I will stick with my PS2 thank you. Oh and the Game Cube, well I hate to say it but I recon it is a bit of too little too late. I recon the delay in its launch in the UK is going to hit sales badly. Alas I feel it is going to suffer a similar fate to the N64. Sad really as I recon it is a much better piece of kit than the X Box. Time will tell if I am right LMB

Mar 18th, 2002, 07:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 02:30 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote of the Day goes to LMB at close to his 1GHz post !! Quote: Originally posted by LMB ....... but what would you prefer a Mini Cooper or a Clio 172. One is a beautifully built machine with adequate power the other is reasonably built but goes like **** off a stick. I like the comparison LMB........nice one.

Mar 18th, 2002, 07:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
Redhotmini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In a house Local Time: 04:30 AM Posts: 121 Offline	METAL GEAR SOLID 2!!! sorry im addicted to that, bought it last thursday and finished it on friday ps2 rocks... The silver beast from the east...

Mar 18th, 2002, 08:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 05:30 AM Posts: 10,681 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Redhotmini METAL GEAR SOLID 2!!! sorry im addicted to that, bought it last thursday and finished it on friday ps2 rocks... Any suggestions on how to get past Solidus! He'a a pain in the ase. I seem to get his energy right down and then he does these moves I can't block so get killed! Its got that bad that that Geak Ocelot (or is that the guy liquid is now? Always get there names confused) gave me advice but it didn't work!

Mar 18th, 2002, 10:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
Redhotmini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In a house Local Time: 04:30 AM Posts: 121 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Damo Any suggestions on how to get past Solidus! He'a a pain in the ase. I seem to get his energy right down and then he does these moves I can't block so get killed! Its got that bad that that Geak Ocelot (or is that the guy liquid is now? Always get there names confused) gave me advice but it didn't work! hahaha lolol! we're talking about games anyways if your talking about the sword fighting scene at the end- then i can't really help u u just gotta get close and when he attacks, roll out the way and slice him its really simple really im playing it on hard now hehehe best bits the sniper part where u gotta protect the girl oh ps. any offer me any help on sound systems within the mini? The silver beast from the east...

Mar 18th, 2002, 10:33 AM	#19 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 05:30 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Redhotmini oh ps. any offer me any help on sound systems within the mini? Ask a question or do a search in the Interior and ICE section of the forum... There's quite a few people in the know (me included ) Dom

Mar 18th, 2002, 10:39 AM	#20 (permalink)
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