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bobnobski · Feb 12th, 2004, 09:22 AM

Just heard back from the dealer.

Pre 2004 models OBC cant upgrade to the new features on the OBC unless they change there BC1 for the 2004 BC2.

basically if you have the older BC1 your computer will only show the (range, mpg, ave speed)

the new BC2 option gives you Instantainious speed & MPG!

The dealer did say that the BC2 was introduced for cars which had the new 2004 spec, but was also added to some Pre 2004 models in the few build weeks before the upgrade took place. ie peeps who got there cars in late July and Sept may well have the BC2! and would get the new obc functions! - the way to check is the old bc1 is black and silver. the new bc2 is all black! - and is found in the side compartment in the footwell!

Paul · Feb 12th, 2004, 10:34 AM

Nice one, good digging for info. ----> Goes to check colour of control unit.....

Paul · Feb 12th, 2004, 03:14 PM

Where is it? In relation to say, the fuses or the pedals?

Martin L · Feb 12th, 2004, 03:26 PM

Ooooooo, I wonder if I'm lucky enough....
Did your dealer say how much the upgrade would cost????

reallyv · Feb 12th, 2004, 03:52 PM

hey hey!!,

i have just bought a cancelled order mini, it is brand new, but has been in the showroom for a few weeks, will it have the 2004 obc???

bobnobski · Feb 12th, 2004, 04:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Where is it? In relation to say, the fuses or the pedals?

Paul - drivers side footwell - behind the panel that the bonnet release sits in!

all models from sept build on had the BC2 - but some earlier ones also?

bobnobski · Feb 12th, 2004, 04:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by reallyv

hey hey!!,

i have just bought a cancelled order mini, it is brand new, but has been in the showroom for a few weeks, will it have the 2004 obc???

As long as its been specced with Chili, salt or pepper pack then YES it will have!

reallyv · Feb 12th, 2004, 05:06 PM

what if i have none of those, but a obc, and rev counter???

EBMCS03 · Feb 12th, 2004, 08:17 PM

Cool info I wonder how much it will be to repalce the BC1 to BC2...

jmegown · Feb 12th, 2004, 10:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bobnobski

Paul - drivers side footwell - behind the panel that the bonnet release sits in!

all models from sept build on had the BC2 - but some earlier ones also?

Is the panel easy to get off?

LeeH · Feb 13th, 2004, 02:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by EMBCS03

Cool info I wonder how much it will be to repalce the BC1 to BC2...

If it's less than $100 I'll swap, but I have a suspicion that it _may_ be slightly more

Lee.

bobnobski · Feb 13th, 2004, 09:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by jmegown

Is the panel easy to get off?

apparently it just clips off - but getting your fingers underneath by the floor carpet is a little tricky and painful due to the sharp edge of the plastic!

may well pop to the dealer and get them to check.

on another note - if you do have the BC2, then you can also get the alarm flash for closing added too!!

EBMCS03 · Feb 13th, 2004, 10:00 AM

what alarm flash for closing? what do u mean?

bobnobski · Feb 13th, 2004, 10:05 AM

sorry i mean opening!! indicators now flash once when you open the car!

EBMCS03 · Feb 13th, 2004, 06:31 PM

O! hehe ok thanks for the info.

Does anyone know if the BC unit would be a do-able yourself thing or does it need programming or installation by the dealer too? I'm trying to get more info on it before calling the dealer so i know what i'm talking about.

SteveM3 · Feb 13th, 2004, 08:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bobnobski

Just heard back from the dealer.

Pre 2004 models OBC cant upgrade to the new features on the OBC unless they change there BC1 for the 2004 BC2.

basically if you have the older BC1 your computer will only show the (range, mpg, ave speed)

the new BC2 option gives you Instantainious speed & MPG!

The dealer did say that the BC2 was introduced for cars which had the new 2004 spec, but was also added to some Pre 2004 models in the few build weeks before the upgrade took place. ie peeps who got there cars in late July and Sept may well have the BC2! and would get the new obc functions! - the way to check is the old bc1 is black and silver. the new bc2 is all black! - and is found in the side compartment in the footwell!

Errr am I missing something here? Don't you just press the OBC button and cycle through
to see what you have? Normally I think people are mad to upgrade any OBC but in this
case the speed readout is very useful as the central speedo looks good but is a pain to
read.

snoopy · Feb 13th, 2004, 11:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bobnobski

Just heard back from the dealer.

Pre 2004 models OBC cant upgrade to the new features on the OBC unless they change there BC1 for the 2004 BC2.

basically if you have the older BC1 your computer will only show the (range, mpg, ave speed)

the new BC2 option gives you Instantainious speed & MPG!

The dealer did say that the BC2 was introduced for cars which had the new 2004 spec, but was also added to some Pre 2004 models in the few build weeks before the upgrade took place. ie peeps who got there cars in late July and Sept may well have the BC2! and would get the new obc functions! - the way to check is the old bc1 is black and silver. the new bc2 is all black! - and is found in the side compartment in the footwell!

Can you confirm this from your dealer. As I thought the IKE (part of the center speedo) would have a greater impack on what the OCB shows, as this is where the OBC is control from.

Feb 18th, 2004, 06:04 AM

Does anyone have a part number for this BC2 OBD control module? I'm sure that my delaership would probably be clueless about this so a part number would really be helpful! I'll still ask them anyways!

Thanks again for the updates!

monsta · Feb 18th, 2004, 09:59 PM

Right, I'm gonna find a salvaged '04 model then!

chunky · Feb 19th, 2004, 03:24 PM

will you have to change the rev counter unit as well?

Feb 12th, 2004, 09:22 AM	#1
bobnobski MINI2 Irritant My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 939 Offline	2004 OBC Questions answered!!! Just heard back from the dealer. Pre 2004 models OBC cant upgrade to the new features on the OBC unless they change there BC1 for the 2004 BC2. basically if you have the older BC1 your computer will only show the (range, mpg, ave speed) the new BC2 option gives you Instantainious speed & MPG! The dealer did say that the BC2 was introduced for cars which had the new 2004 spec, but was also added to some Pre 2004 models in the few build weeks before the upgrade took place. ie peeps who got there cars in late July and Sept may well have the BC2! and would get the new obc functions! - the way to check is the old bc1 is black and silver. the new bc2 is all black! - and is found in the side compartment in the footwell!

Feb 12th, 2004, 10:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:55 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	Nice one, good digging for info. ----> Goes to check colour of control unit..... Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Feb 12th, 2004, 03:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:55 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	Where is it? In relation to say, the fuses or the pedals? Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Feb 12th, 2004, 03:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 12:55 AM Posts: 13,666 Offline	Ooooooo, I wonder if I'm lucky enough.... Did your dealer say how much the upgrade would cost???? MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

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Feb 12th, 2004, 04:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
bobnobski MINI2 Irritant My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 939 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett Where is it? In relation to say, the fuses or the pedals? Paul - drivers side footwell - behind the panel that the bonnet release sits in! all models from sept build on had the BC2 - but some earlier ones also?

Feb 12th, 2004, 04:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
bobnobski MINI2 Irritant My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 939 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by reallyv hey hey!!, i have just bought a cancelled order mini, it is brand new, but has been in the showroom for a few weeks, will it have the 2004 obc??? As long as its been specced with Chili, salt or pepper pack then YES it will have!

Feb 12th, 2004, 05:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
reallyv Audio, Mini, Life Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Swansea Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 76 Offline	what if i have none of those, but a obc, and rev counter??? For Car Audio, Car Destruction, Dangerous Driving, Bad Speelling. Who You Gonna Call?

Feb 12th, 2004, 08:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
EBMCS03 M5 Extraordinare! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: So Cal Local Time: 05:55 PM Posts: 6,768 Offline	Cool info I wonder how much it will be to repalce the BC1 to BC2... EB/W MCS Arrived (3/26/03) SOLD 4/25/06

Feb 12th, 2004, 10:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
jmegown MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Location: Iowa Local Time: 07:55 PM Posts: 38 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by bobnobski Paul - drivers side footwell - behind the panel that the bonnet release sits in! all models from sept build on had the BC2 - but some earlier ones also? Is the panel easy to get off?

Feb 13th, 2004, 02:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
LeeH Under the sky Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Starbucks Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 416 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by EMBCS03 Cool info I wonder how much it will be to repalce the BC1 to BC2... If it's less than $100 I'll swap, but I have a suspicion that it _may_ be slightly more Lee.

Feb 13th, 2004, 09:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
bobnobski MINI2 Irritant My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 939 Offline	im trying!! Quote: Originally Posted by jmegown Is the panel easy to get off? apparently it just clips off - but getting your fingers underneath by the floor carpet is a little tricky and painful due to the sharp edge of the plastic! may well pop to the dealer and get them to check. on another note - if you do have the BC2, then you can also get the alarm flash for closing added too!!

Feb 13th, 2004, 10:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
EBMCS03 M5 Extraordinare! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: So Cal Local Time: 05:55 PM Posts: 6,768 Offline	what alarm flash for closing? what do u mean? EB/W MCS Arrived (3/26/03) SOLD 4/25/06

Feb 13th, 2004, 10:05 AM	#14 (permalink)
bobnobski MINI2 Irritant My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 939 Offline	sorry i mean opening!! indicators now flash once when you open the car!

Feb 13th, 2004, 06:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
EBMCS03 M5 Extraordinare! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: So Cal Local Time: 05:55 PM Posts: 6,768 Offline	O! hehe ok thanks for the info. Does anyone know if the BC unit would be a do-able yourself thing or does it need programming or installation by the dealer too? I'm trying to get more info on it before calling the dealer so i know what i'm talking about. EB/W MCS Arrived (3/26/03) SOLD 4/25/06

Feb 13th, 2004, 08:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
SteveM3 MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malmesbury, Wilts Local Time: 12:55 AM Posts: 1,848 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by bobnobski Just heard back from the dealer. Pre 2004 models OBC cant upgrade to the new features on the OBC unless they change there BC1 for the 2004 BC2. basically if you have the older BC1 your computer will only show the (range, mpg, ave speed) the new BC2 option gives you Instantainious speed & MPG! The dealer did say that the BC2 was introduced for cars which had the new 2004 spec, but was also added to some Pre 2004 models in the few build weeks before the upgrade took place. ie peeps who got there cars in late July and Sept may well have the BC2! and would get the new obc functions! - the way to check is the old bc1 is black and silver. the new bc2 is all black! - and is found in the side compartment in the footwell! Errr am I missing something here? Don't you just press the OBC button and cycle through to see what you have? Normally I think people are mad to upgrade any OBC but in this case the speed readout is very useful as the central speedo looks good but is a pain to read.

Feb 13th, 2004, 11:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
snoopy MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: au Local Time: 10:55 AM Posts: 1,149 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by bobnobski Just heard back from the dealer. Pre 2004 models OBC cant upgrade to the new features on the OBC unless they change there BC1 for the 2004 BC2. basically if you have the older BC1 your computer will only show the (range, mpg, ave speed) the new BC2 option gives you Instantainious speed & MPG! The dealer did say that the BC2 was introduced for cars which had the new 2004 spec, but was also added to some Pre 2004 models in the few build weeks before the upgrade took place. ie peeps who got there cars in late July and Sept may well have the BC2! and would get the new obc functions! - the way to check is the old bc1 is black and silver. the new bc2 is all black! - and is found in the side compartment in the footwell! Can you confirm this from your dealer. As I thought the IKE (part of the center speedo) would have a greater impack on what the OCB shows, as this is where the OBC is control from.

Feb 18th, 2004, 06:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
atomic80 Posts: n/a	Does anyone have a part number for this BC2 OBD control module? I'm sure that my delaership would probably be clueless about this so a part number would really be helpful! I'll still ask them anyways! Thanks again for the updates!

Feb 18th, 2004, 09:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 01:55 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	Right, I'm gonna find a salvaged '04 model then! the MINI has gone...

Feb 19th, 2004, 03:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
chunky MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: london Local Time: 12:55 AM Posts: 74 Offline	will you have to change the rev counter unit as well? knowledge is power

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