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Barnabas · Mar 2nd, 2004, 11:30 PM

Ok well I'm so very close to owning a Mini it hurts. Basically my parents want to get me a car to use after I graduate from college. They'll purchase the car in their name but I'll eventually take over the payments once I get settled. Anyways because I need their help in purchasing the car I need to convince them that the Mini is a good investment. They think Mini is a horrible investment since the parts are harder to get because there are fewer of them here (doesn't make sense to me really), and will have high maintenace costs etc...etc... I can't really tell them it's a reliable car either since from the stuff I've read on here I don't think it's a very reliable car (as compared to my '93 Accord where the only major thing I've done on it is to replace the radiator for $120. Approaching 200k miles!).

If my parents were car enthusiasts it would be a different story, but because they only see a car as a mode of transportation to get you from point A to point B, only thing that matters is practicality and reliability. I've tried telling them it's not about practicality or reliability for me but something different and fun, and something that won't get stolen 5 times over a 4 year period. So what do you suggest? Sure I could let my dad test drive it and see what he thinks (he'd probably be more easier to sway than my mom), but the thing is I'd like to have the car by the time I graduate (which is end of May) and only way is to order the car by the end of the week. So any helpful ways to sell them the idea using my silver tongue? I really wouldn't want to wait until June or July to get the car...want to be able to show it off to my friends before I head out for North Carliona. hehe. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!

MaTTy_P · Mar 2nd, 2004, 11:35 PM

saftey. throw that one at ur parents, and thier bound to come around. that and the fact that thier so nice.

. best way, take them to ur local dealers, get them to go in the car with you on a test drive. that'le soon change thier mind.

dietcokeplease · Mar 2nd, 2004, 11:37 PM

Tell your parents that the MINI is safe: ABS, CBC, Airbags, Side Airbags, Head bags, excellent brakes, primary safety and handling and a good crash rating. The MINI should also have a better than average resale value. Just don't let your dad test drive it or he may want to keep it.

Johnny225 · Mar 2nd, 2004, 11:53 PM

Lol! And tell them that the SUV backlash starts now!lolol!

Barnabas · Mar 3rd, 2004, 12:14 AM

Ok safety features got it. =) Well just got off the phone w/ my mum and she said she'll talk to my dad about it and if all goes well I might have a Cooper on order by the end of this week! Woot! I really should show my parents the F-150 and Cooper 40mph crash test. heh

CUTiger3 · Mar 3rd, 2004, 12:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Barnabas

Ok well I'm so very close to owning a Mini it hurts. Basically my parents want to get me a car to use after I graduate from college. They'll purchase the car in their name but I'll eventually take over the payments once I get settled.

What is the time frame on "eventually"?

If the answer is sooner rather than later, you should use an angle concerning the number of payments...
# of payments your parents make vs. # of payments you will be making. If the number is heavy on your side, then why would you make payments on something YOU don't want. If you lose this discussion, and are forced to SETTLE for the type car your parents want to purchase...trade it when you take over the payments and buy a MINI

AtomicKiwi · Mar 3rd, 2004, 01:53 AM

I'm 18 years old and I just got my MINI back in August as a first car. My parents fell in love with the MINI the second we drove up to the dealership!

Take your parents to a dealership, and I bet they'll do the same!

MINIs are also very practical, despite their small and fun appearance. They may look small from the outside, but 4 fit comfortably. I'm sure your parents will start to warm up to the MINI as soon as they take a drive in one. Give it a shot! It's a great car!

OregonCooper · Mar 3rd, 2004, 03:51 AM

My suggestion is to keep the (admittedly reliable) Accord a bit longer and buy the MINI once you have a job and can afford it without your parents' help. It doesn't look like there is a real need for you to go into debt (and risk your relationship with your parents if they have to make the payments) at this point.

Good luck.

Barnabas · Mar 3rd, 2004, 05:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by OregonCooper

My suggestion is to keep the (admittedly reliable) Accord a bit longer and buy the MINI once you have a job and can afford it without your parents' help. It doesn't look like there is a real need for you to go into debt (and risk your relationship with your parents if they have to make the payments) at this point.

Good luck.

Wow thanks for all the suggestions! The thing is I want to get rid of this car. Yeah it runs fine and blah blah blah, but it's been stolen twice and is pretty much a mess. Only thing that it's good for is getting me to point A to point B. It doesn't even have a spare since when they stole the car they took what they can. It's just not the same when a car's been stolen, it just doesn't feel like mine and I have no desire to keep it. Also if I do keep the Accord, I'll be keeping it for an another 2-3 yrs or so since I have one more year of schooling to do before I can make some money, then off to more schooling.

There really isn't a risk per say involved w/ my parents. If they say no, that's that. I would be disappointed but not going to throw a fit, but I'd just rather have them say yes =)

As for the payments. I honestly don't know when I'll be taking over. Most likely in 2 years I'll take over the payments, but given that they're buying me a car using their excellent credit rating to get a low rate is something that also weighs heavily for them. And lastly the idea to take them to a dealership. Oh I want to very much but, they're really busy people and don't have time for things like that. Especially on such a short notice (I need to order the Cooper by end of the week). Well here's hoping my dad agrees to my proposition. hehe. And again thanks for all the suggestions.

Barnabas · Mar 4th, 2004, 10:03 PM

Well looks like its not gonna happen for me =( I'll just get it myself in about a year and a half...Hopefully then I'll be either working for a NASCAR Nextel cup team or at a BMW dealer

nonsequitur · May 27th, 2004, 05:21 AM

This link may tie together some of the previous comments on Safety, SUVs, and the idea of active safety ... with some dramatic and accurate pictures:

Crash Testing MINI Cooper vs Ford F-150

Barnabas · May 27th, 2004, 08:35 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by nonsequitur

This link may tie together some of the previous comments on Safety, SUVs, and the idea of active safety ... with some dramatic and accurate pictures:

Crash Testing MINI Cooper vs Ford F-150

Wow talk about rising from the grave..hehe. I totally forgot about this thread, but the good news is I'm getting an MCS =) I should be able to have it in my hands by end of July. Thanks for the link btw I was looking for that.

liz s · May 28th, 2004, 06:28 PM

I agree with a comment above - earn some money and get one when you can afford it. Reading these pages I am amazed how many teenagers manage to get a MINI from their parents - I got a £250 fiesta that had been in the family for 15 years for my first car and I was 22! If you have to work hard for it - you will appreciate it more! Sorry to sound boring but the 'chip is firmly on my shoulder'. Good luck!

liz s · May 28th, 2004, 06:29 PM

Oh just realised you are having one - you are one lucky kid!

GreyStreet · May 28th, 2004, 06:38 PM

What dealership did you order your car from? Were you on their wait list earlier this year or somethin?

Lagston · May 28th, 2004, 06:57 PM

Pick up the latest issue of Eurotuner. In there they have a small article in the front of the mag that talks about the resale value of cars after 5 years and 75,000 miles. The Mini Cooper came in third place holding 53% of its value. And after you drive your new ride off the lot your car appreciates in value. I can also relate to your situation as I am 20 years old myself, put as much money as you can down. It will be worth more to you. Have fun

Lagston

Barnabas · May 28th, 2004, 09:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GreyStreet

What dealership did you order your car from? Were you on their wait list earlier this year or somethin?

I ordered from Classic MINI in Ohio. I'm in the June Group Buy, so the MINI should get to me around mid-July. I placed the order on April 11th this year.

Mar 2nd, 2004, 11:30 PM	#1
Barnabas Destroying your MINI Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Local Time: 05:56 PM Posts: 1,193 Offline	Help me convince my parents! Ok well I'm so very close to owning a Mini it hurts. Basically my parents want to get me a car to use after I graduate from college. They'll purchase the car in their name but I'll eventually take over the payments once I get settled. Anyways because I need their help in purchasing the car I need to convince them that the Mini is a good investment. They think Mini is a horrible investment since the parts are harder to get because there are fewer of them here (doesn't make sense to me really), and will have high maintenace costs etc...etc... I can't really tell them it's a reliable car either since from the stuff I've read on here I don't think it's a very reliable car (as compared to my '93 Accord where the only major thing I've done on it is to replace the radiator for $120. Approaching 200k miles!). If my parents were car enthusiasts it would be a different story, but because they only see a car as a mode of transportation to get you from point A to point B, only thing that matters is practicality and reliability. I've tried telling them it's not about practicality or reliability for me but something different and fun, and something that won't get stolen 5 times over a 4 year period. So what do you suggest? Sure I could let my dad test drive it and see what he thinks (he'd probably be more easier to sway than my mom), but the thing is I'd like to have the car by the time I graduate (which is end of May) and only way is to order the car by the end of the week. So any helpful ways to sell them the idea using my silver tongue? I really wouldn't want to wait until June or July to get the car...want to be able to show it off to my friends before I head out for North Carliona. hehe. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!

Mar 2nd, 2004, 11:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
dietcokeplease Official MINI2 Fluffer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Spearmint Rhino Local Time: 12:56 AM Posts: 5,261 Offline	Tell your parents that the MINI is safe: ABS, CBC, Airbags, Side Airbags, Head bags, excellent brakes, primary safety and handling and a good crash rating. The MINI should also have a better than average resale value. Just don't let your dad test drive it or he may want to keep it. There is just one moon and one golden sun; And a smile mean friendship to ev'ryone; Through the mountains divide, and the oceans are wide; It's a small world after all.

Mar 3rd, 2004, 12:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
CUTiger3 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Upstate South Caroli Local Time: 08:56 PM Posts: 345 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Barnabas Ok well I'm so very close to owning a Mini it hurts. Basically my parents want to get me a car to use after I graduate from college. They'll purchase the car in their name but I'll eventually take over the payments once I get settled. What is the time frame on "eventually"? If the answer is sooner rather than later, you should use an angle concerning the number of payments... # of payments your parents make vs. # of payments you will be making. If the number is heavy on your side, then why would you make payments on something YOU don't want. If you lose this discussion, and are forced to SETTLE for the type car your parents want to purchase...trade it when you take over the payments and buy a MINI Coop 2 (Speedy) - '07 DS/DS MCS

Mar 3rd, 2004, 01:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
AtomicKiwi Aimee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stamford, CT Local Time: 08:56 PM Posts: 256 Offline	I'm 18 years old and I just got my MINI back in August as a first car. My parents fell in love with the MINI the second we drove up to the dealership! Take your parents to a dealership, and I bet they'll do the same! MINIs are also very practical, despite their small and fun appearance. They may look small from the outside, but 4 fit comfortably. I'm sure your parents will start to warm up to the MINI as soon as they take a drive in one. Give it a shot! It's a great car! http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/15663/36778.jpg

May 27th, 2004, 05:21 AM	#11 (permalink)
nonsequitur MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle area, WA Local Time: 04:56 PM Posts: 1,471 Offline	MINI vs Ford F-150 This link may tie together some of the previous comments on Safety, SUVs, and the idea of active safety ... with some dramatic and accurate pictures: Crash Testing MINI Cooper vs Ford F-150 '02 MINI Cooper CVT(6/12/02; Indi Blue/Black, R-81 7-hole 15x5.5" or NZO 16x6.5") '67 Austin Cooper S (6/26/67; Tartan Red/Black, 10x4.5")

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Mar 2nd, 2004, 11:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
MaTTy_P Joy! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Newcastle Local Time: 12:56 AM Posts: 1,329 Offline	saftey. throw that one at ur parents, and thier bound to come around. that and the fact that thier so nice. . best way, take them to ur local dealers, get them to go in the car with you on a test drive. that'le soon change thier mind.

Mar 2nd, 2004, 11:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Johnny225 Mr Buttons! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Local Time: 04:56 PM Posts: 837 Offline	Lol! And tell them that the SUV backlash starts now!lolol!

Mar 3rd, 2004, 12:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
Barnabas Destroying your MINI Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Local Time: 05:56 PM Posts: 1,193 Offline	Ok safety features got it. =) Well just got off the phone w/ my mum and she said she'll talk to my dad about it and if all goes well I might have a Cooper on order by the end of this week! Woot! I really should show my parents the F-150 and Cooper 40mph crash test. heh

Mar 3rd, 2004, 03:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
OregonCooper MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hillsboro, OR Local Time: 05:56 PM Posts: 89 Offline	My suggestion is to keep the (admittedly reliable) Accord a bit longer and buy the MINI once you have a job and can afford it without your parents' help. It doesn't look like there is a real need for you to go into debt (and risk your relationship with your parents if they have to make the payments) at this point. Good luck.

Mar 3rd, 2004, 05:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
Barnabas Destroying your MINI Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Local Time: 05:56 PM Posts: 1,193 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by OregonCooper My suggestion is to keep the (admittedly reliable) Accord a bit longer and buy the MINI once you have a job and can afford it without your parents' help. It doesn't look like there is a real need for you to go into debt (and risk your relationship with your parents if they have to make the payments) at this point. Good luck. Wow thanks for all the suggestions! The thing is I want to get rid of this car. Yeah it runs fine and blah blah blah, but it's been stolen twice and is pretty much a mess. Only thing that it's good for is getting me to point A to point B. It doesn't even have a spare since when they stole the car they took what they can. It's just not the same when a car's been stolen, it just doesn't feel like mine and I have no desire to keep it. Also if I do keep the Accord, I'll be keeping it for an another 2-3 yrs or so since I have one more year of schooling to do before I can make some money, then off to more schooling. There really isn't a risk per say involved w/ my parents. If they say no, that's that. I would be disappointed but not going to throw a fit, but I'd just rather have them say yes =) As for the payments. I honestly don't know when I'll be taking over. Most likely in 2 years I'll take over the payments, but given that they're buying me a car using their excellent credit rating to get a low rate is something that also weighs heavily for them. And lastly the idea to take them to a dealership. Oh I want to very much but, they're really busy people and don't have time for things like that. Especially on such a short notice (I need to order the Cooper by end of the week). Well here's hoping my dad agrees to my proposition. hehe. And again thanks for all the suggestions.

Mar 4th, 2004, 10:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
Barnabas Destroying your MINI Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Local Time: 05:56 PM Posts: 1,193 Offline	Well looks like its not gonna happen for me =( I'll just get it myself in about a year and a half...Hopefully then I'll be either working for a NASCAR Nextel cup team or at a BMW dealer

May 27th, 2004, 08:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
Barnabas Destroying your MINI Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Local Time: 05:56 PM Posts: 1,193 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by nonsequitur This link may tie together some of the previous comments on Safety, SUVs, and the idea of active safety ... with some dramatic and accurate pictures: Crash Testing MINI Cooper vs Ford F-150 Wow talk about rising from the grave..hehe. I totally forgot about this thread, but the good news is I'm getting an MCS =) I should be able to have it in my hands by end of July. Thanks for the link btw I was looking for that. Car is only good as the driver.

May 28th, 2004, 06:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
liz s MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Local Time: 12:56 AM Posts: 73 Offline	I agree with a comment above - earn some money and get one when you can afford it. Reading these pages I am amazed how many teenagers manage to get a MINI from their parents - I got a £250 fiesta that had been in the family for 15 years for my first car and I was 22! If you have to work hard for it - you will appreciate it more! Sorry to sound boring but the 'chip is firmly on my shoulder'. Good luck!

May 28th, 2004, 06:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
liz s MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Local Time: 12:56 AM Posts: 73 Offline	Oh just realised you are having one - you are one lucky kid!

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May 28th, 2004, 06:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
GreyStreet MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 05:56 PM Posts: 115 Offline	What dealership did you order your car from? Were you on their wait list earlier this year or somethin?

May 28th, 2004, 06:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
Lagston MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bay Area, California Local Time: 05:56 PM Posts: 26 Offline	Pick up the latest issue of Eurotuner. In there they have a small article in the front of the mag that talks about the resale value of cars after 5 years and 75,000 miles. The Mini Cooper came in third place holding 53% of its value. And after you drive your new ride off the lot your car appreciates in value. I can also relate to your situation as I am 20 years old myself, put as much money as you can down. It will be worth more to you. Have fun Lagston

May 28th, 2004, 09:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
Barnabas Destroying your MINI Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Local Time: 05:56 PM Posts: 1,193 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GreyStreet What dealership did you order your car from? Were you on their wait list earlier this year or somethin? I ordered from Classic MINI in Ohio. I'm in the June Group Buy, so the MINI should get to me around mid-July. I placed the order on April 11th this year. Car is only good as the driver.

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