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Old Mar 5th, 2004, 10:47 PM   #61
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Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, but refinery capacity is supposed to be the reason the price of gas in the USA is skyrocketing, not OPEC or taxes. In other words, blame it on all the gas guzzling SUVs on the roads.
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Old Mar 5th, 2004, 11:32 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Refineries close for planned upgrades, no adjustments made for increased production at opened refineries. Demand exceeds supply. More SUV's on the road everyday. Prices slowly creeping up for everything. Corporate greed. Jobs going over seas. Crappy bosses. lousy benifits, two weeks vacation a year, fewer holidays per year, work longer hours, work harder, no raises, no promotions, dead end jobs. Get a a degree, watch your industry move all of its jobs to cheap labor markets, shovel big macs at obeseasties, listen to dumb people all day and smile at all the crap they throw at you.
According to the DC pundints life is good, prices are in control, more jobs are being created, the labor force never had it so good, health care is not a benifit, who needs time away from work when production is the only measure of your usefulness.
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Old Mar 6th, 2004, 06:39 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by OregonCooper
Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, but refinery capacity is supposed to be the reason the price of gas in the USA is skyrocketing, not OPEC or taxes. In other words, blame it on all the gas guzzling SUVs on the roads.

Yea, and a week before that it was because they were switching to "summer grade" fuel. The week before that it was saomething else. IT'S ALL LIES AND BULL SH+T !!!!!! It's not the SUV's, It's not the the current adminustration, he is an oil man himself why would he screw himself out of office. This greed pure and simple. It happens every year , just this year they wanted an early jump and to stick it hard. Has anybody noticed ever since people started making a stink about it at the end of last week that the prices have stoped climbing for now?
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Old Mar 6th, 2004, 06:55 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by shiredweller
Big oil, and small oil for that matter, is in business to make money. They don't owe anyone cheap gas. A few years ago when oil went below $10.00 a brl. and gas was below $1.00 a gal. nobody cared about the cut backs that had to take place in the oil patch. People lost jobs, homes, cars, boats, retirements, it was real nasty. I hope the oil co. continue to make lots of money because if there is no money in it no one is going to produce oil and gas for fun.

There is a differance between making money and rapeing the US economy. This has so much potential to wrek havoc on our economy if they plan on hitting $3.00 a gallon this summer. Inflation will increase because manufactures have to cover there petroleum costs. unemployment will increase. Gas manufactures are not hurting for cash. In our town we pump and produce a vast majority of gas and other petroleum products. I've been to the "higher up's" houses and seen there office buildings with the job I do for a living. They are not hurting in the least bit. I do remember the period and time you are talking about. A lot of blue collar workers got screwed but they are not the ones who I am talking about. It's the ones up the "food chain". If the prices keep climbing it's going to be alot more than the drillers and plant employees getting screwed and losing jobs, cars, and homes.
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Old Mar 6th, 2004, 07:53 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Gas is cheap here, even at $3 a gallon. I just returned from the UK, where I spend $47 to top off a MINI tank, then spend $17 on two McD's meal deals. So get over it. We all make our choices, what to drive, where to live. It's no one's fault but your own if you chose to commute to the country in a gas hog. Buck up and pay the price.

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I think gas should be more expensive, but the problem isn't actually gas prices, its diesel prices. So much of our economy moves with trucks, when diesel gets more expensive, it hits everyone hard in the pocket because everything costs more.

Make gas cost $3 a gallon, that's fine - people need more fuel efficient cars, but keep diesel cheap - because otherwise almost everything we buy gets more expensive for no good reason. Semi-trucks are already quite efficient, I think they get around 8 mpg, which for pulling around 80,000lbs is pretty impressive.

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Old Mar 6th, 2004, 03:26 PM   #67 (permalink)
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For the sake of all those Hummers, and believe me - in our area they are ALL OVER THE PLACE- I hope they have to pay part of their mortgage payment to fuel their rides. Especially the one riding around our area flaunting their status with a license plate that reads: 8 MPG



drives me nuts

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Quote: Originally Posted by MoonPie
For the sake of all those Hummers, and believe me - in our area they are ALL OVER THE PLACE- I hope they have to pay part of their mortgage payment to fuel their rides. Especially the one riding around our area flaunting their status with a license plate that reads: 8 MPG



drives me nuts

Saw a huge SUV of some kind a few weeks ago with a plate that said: 4U2NV. The middle finger went on auto pilot I could not help it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by shiredweller
Saw a huge SUV of some kind a few weeks ago with a plate that said: 4U2NV. The middle finger went on auto pilot I could not help it.


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Old Mar 6th, 2004, 05:47 PM   #70 (permalink)
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I'll keep this short. A lot of Americans are sniveling babies! They expect to have freedom to do what they wish and buy what they want but seemingly fail to realize that such actions have consequnces. In th case of gas and gas prices, the supply is not unlimited.. we should be encouraging conservation ,which would include the movement to more sensible transportation. The only way this is going to happen is through an increase in gas prices... by the government, through taxes, as the Eurpean markets and others have done. The money can go into road repair and grants for development of alternate energy sources . Commuting in Lincoln Navigators and Dually crew cab Chevy Silverados is ridiculous. And before anyone gets on my case about being an outsider or a diehard environmentalist weenie.. I live here and I've raced cars for a long time. Little ones. I garauntee I use less gas doing it then people driving thier SUV from Detroit to the north of Michigan every weekend. I'm done. :-)

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