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moorlockx · Mar 10th, 2004, 12:38 AM

Found this letter in the new issue of "Roundel" magazine (BMW club). It's bad enough there are some classic owners peeved at our choice of cars, now it looks like there's some folks with BMW's that aren't happy either:

MINIs Besmirch our ads"

Perusing the December "Roundel"classifieds I found several Mini Coopers Listed on pages 114 and 115. What's up with that? I never saw any Rover's for sale when BMW owned Rover. Is it because a few select BMW franchises sell the Mini? BMW doesn't even mention the Mini in their sales literaturerequest card.And the Mini doesn't have the BMW roundel. It's not a BMW!
Rich Mammano

Roundels response follows:

No- but it contributes nicely to the corporate profits, and BMW CCA members seem to like the little rat, so we try to maintain an inclusive attitude. There were never any Rovers advertised for sale because nobody would buy them.

------------------------------ Don't know which is worse, the letter or the answer!

dietcokeplease · Mar 10th, 2004, 08:37 AM

Looks like MINI is the b-astard child.

Snubbed by both classic Mini's and BMW's. Worried? Forget it! I can bet that we have ten times more fun than either of these groups. I find it entertaining that classics have such a chip. And it proves the height of snobbery of Rich Mammano.

poki · Mar 10th, 2004, 08:51 AM

I actually like having a car that has a little controversy about it. It is just another facet of the cars personality.

No one does this much fist waving and moaning over Toyota Corollas.

HObzy · Mar 10th, 2004, 10:38 AM

They are just jealous because we can fit in the parking spaces that we cant. And cos we have got the only good looking BMW.

ClashCityRocker · Mar 10th, 2004, 10:43 AM

Thing is - if I wanted a "classic" mini or a BMW then I'd buy one. I don't so I haven't. Why do these people get so irate??? I'm happy for them that they are content with their choice of car, why do they feel the need to concern themselves with other peoples cars?

ErikR · Mar 10th, 2004, 11:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ClashCityRocker

Thing is - if I wanted a "classic" mini or a BMW then I'd buy one. I don't so I haven't. Why do these people get so irate??? I'm happy for them that they are content with their choice of car, why do they feel the need to concern themselves with other peoples cars?

I think the more passion people have about their cars the more they tend to dislike other cars. Just look at some of the posts on this site, you will constantly see people degrading Toyota's, Honda's and the new Beetle! It is just like the way some of the classic Mini owners feel about the MINI. I wouldn't take it as an insult just an indication of how much that person loves their car.

Erik

ScoobyDoo · Mar 10th, 2004, 11:43 AM

Personally, I think if they've got nothing better to do than actually take the time to write a letter like that in the first place - then they can't be on the road enjoying their own car, can they????

ABG · Mar 10th, 2004, 11:46 AM

Just my opinion but this looks like more of US issue than a UK one - in the US (as I understand it) a lot of buyer buy BMWs for their status above all else. That's a much lower priority in the UK where the 3 series is a very common car.

BTW there are also a fair few MINI owners who have BMWs - myself included

ScoobyDoo · Mar 10th, 2004, 11:51 AM

My Mom has just traded in her MINI Cooper for a 320i - So no MINI predjudice there!

SoggyCornFlakes · Mar 10th, 2004, 12:28 PM

I love my BRIC (BMW Rover Inspired Cooper)

csmith319 · Mar 10th, 2004, 01:18 PM

BMW owners should be happy - BMW brought the MINI in to able to sell in this car segment, which they have done brilliantly. And because they've used a different badge they haven't degraded their brand like Merc did with the A Class. (It helps that the MINI is such a great car too)

theminiv · Mar 10th, 2004, 06:26 PM

I tried selling my mini and going to a 3 series, but due to the potential 'kick in' from some of my mini owning friends, i decided not to.

And, to be honest. I AM SO GLAD THAT I KEPT WITH MINI.

I dont wanna jump 20 years in my life by owning one of them!!!!

Aqualung · Mar 10th, 2004, 11:05 PM

And what are they going to do when the BMW 1 owners wanna join in?

stryder · Mar 10th, 2004, 11:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Aqualung

And what are they going to do when the BMW 1 owners wanna join in?

That's probably why they made the big deal about the roundel. So they'll be annoyed, but they'll have to shut up.

I think the response was quite appropos. Especially since there's BMW printed all over a MINI if you know where to look, and I got a free subscription to BMW magazine (or whatever its called) with my car - which barely had any MINI news - it kept trying to subtly sell me a 7 series and a watch that cost more then my MINI.

Rick Anderson · Mar 11th, 2004, 02:34 AM

Well, I am a former BMW owner, a present classic Mini owner, and a very soon-to-be MINI Cooper owner. All I can say is that I love them all, except maybe the BMW which was an absolute hunk of crap. I believe that too many people confuse their identities with the type of car they drive, especially here in California. I have been a car nut for my entire life and I can honestly say that the new MINI is the coolest car ever.

MINIAC · Mar 11th, 2004, 02:39 AM

I loved my old BMW and hated having to sell it

I didn't renew my BMW CCA membership last year.

shanemcr · Mar 11th, 2004, 04:31 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ABG

Just my opinion but this looks like more of US issue than a UK one - in the US (as I understand it) a lot of buyer buy BMWs for their status above all else. That's a much lower priority in the UK where the 3 series is a very common car.

BTW there are also a fair few MINI owners who have BMWs - myself included

I think there are some people who can never be happy--they'll always find something to be bitter about or to feel superior about; I think that transcends country but you may be right ABG that wrt BMW this is more of a US thing, though dog know there are plenty of 3-series over here, too (mine included). I love my BMW, but I'm going to be happy become a MINI owner (end of June).

nonsequitur · Mar 11th, 2004, 05:02 AM

The Mini has always been a little on the edge, and now our MINI continues that tradition. Everyone owned, or wanted to own, a Mini. There's fast growing feeling for MINI.

Here is a most interesting picture of the new 1 Series from BMW, with the MINI leading:
http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/03/..._info#comments

Remember that the MINI brand is a grand [and relatively inexpensive] experiment for BMW Group that just happens to be working very well, Thank You.

The MINI order process, customized mass production, waiting experience, and many vehicle engineering tests have provided a new baseline for BMW Group to bring cars like the 1 Series into the market. The BMW purists just are not looking at the company with the perspective that the family and Board are now using to manage these two successful brands, BMW and MINI. Take heart that your car is showing the way to a refreshed BMW.

gibbon · Mar 11th, 2004, 08:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by moorlockx

It's not a BMW!
Rich Mammano

Ahhh ! That's pretty cool

I'm glad my MINI isn't a BMW

minisoopercooper · Mar 11th, 2004, 08:22 AM

even though it clearly says "built by BMW" under the bonnett!

Mar 10th, 2004, 12:38 AM	#1
moorlockx MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Fayetteville, NC, US Local Time: 07:58 PM Posts: 884 Offline	First Mini owners... now Bimmer owners Found this letter in the new issue of "Roundel" magazine (BMW club). It's bad enough there are some classic owners peeved at our choice of cars, now it looks like there's some folks with BMW's that aren't happy either: MINIs Besmirch our ads" Perusing the December "Roundel"classifieds I found several Mini Coopers Listed on pages 114 and 115. What's up with that? I never saw any Rover's for sale when BMW owned Rover. Is it because a few select BMW franchises sell the Mini? BMW doesn't even mention the Mini in their sales literaturerequest card.And the Mini doesn't have the BMW roundel. It's not a BMW! Rich Mammano Roundels response follows: No- but it contributes nicely to the corporate profits, and BMW CCA members seem to like the little rat, so we try to maintain an inclusive attitude. There were never any Rovers advertised for sale because nobody would buy them. ------------------------------ Don't know which is worse, the letter or the answer! -- '03 S B/W

Mar 10th, 2004, 08:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
dietcokeplease Official MINI2 Fluffer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Spearmint Rhino Local Time: 12:58 AM Posts: 5,261 Offline	Looks like MINI is the b-astard child. Snubbed by both classic Mini's and BMW's. Worried? Forget it! I can bet that we have ten times more fun than either of these groups. I find it entertaining that classics have such a chip. And it proves the height of snobbery of Rich Mammano. There is just one moon and one golden sun; And a smile mean friendship to ev'ryone; Through the mountains divide, and the oceans are wide; It's a small world after all.

Mar 10th, 2004, 11:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
ScoobyDoo Back in a first gen. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DBRally Local Time: 12:58 AM Posts: 1,396 Offline	Personally, I think if they've got nothing better to do than actually take the time to write a letter like that in the first place - then they can't be on the road enjoying their own car, can they???? http://www.dbrally.net

Mar 10th, 2004, 11:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
ScoobyDoo Back in a first gen. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DBRally Local Time: 12:58 AM Posts: 1,396 Offline	My Mom has just traded in her MINI Cooper for a 320i - So no MINI predjudice there! http://www.dbrally.net

Mar 10th, 2004, 12:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
SoggyCornFlakes Awwww %%%% it! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northampton Local Time: 12:58 AM Posts: 33,225 Offline	I love my BRIC (BMW Rover Inspired Cooper) Click here to Welease Woss and Bwand MINI2 Charity Ball 2009 ....... Global Moderator

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Mar 10th, 2004, 08:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
poki Whatev. Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 11:58 AM Posts: 2,885 Offline	I actually like having a car that has a little controversy about it. It is just another facet of the cars personality. No one does this much fist waving and moaning over Toyota Corollas.

Mar 10th, 2004, 10:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
HObzy MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Stressville Local Time: 01:58 AM Posts: 1,049 Offline	They are just jealous because we can fit in the parking spaces that we cant. And cos we have got the only good looking BMW.

Mar 10th, 2004, 10:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
ClashCityRocker Forza Galles! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cardiff Local Time: 01:58 AM Posts: 15 Offline	Thing is - if I wanted a "classic" mini or a BMW then I'd buy one. I don't so I haven't. Why do these people get so irate??? I'm happy for them that they are content with their choice of car, why do they feel the need to concern themselves with other peoples cars?

Mar 10th, 2004, 11:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
ErikR MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Local Time: 12:58 AM Posts: 115 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ClashCityRocker Thing is - if I wanted a "classic" mini or a BMW then I'd buy one. I don't so I haven't. Why do these people get so irate??? I'm happy for them that they are content with their choice of car, why do they feel the need to concern themselves with other peoples cars? I think the more passion people have about their cars the more they tend to dislike other cars. Just look at some of the posts on this site, you will constantly see people degrading Toyota's, Honda's and the new Beetle! It is just like the way some of the classic Mini owners feel about the MINI. I wouldn't take it as an insult just an indication of how much that person loves their car. Erik

Mar 10th, 2004, 11:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
ABG Yatta!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Local Time: 12:58 AM Posts: 8,387 Offline	Just my opinion but this looks like more of US issue than a UK one - in the US (as I understand it) a lot of buyer buy BMWs for their status above all else. That's a much lower priority in the UK where the 3 series is a very common car. BTW there are also a fair few MINI owners who have BMWs - myself included

Mar 10th, 2004, 01:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
csmith319 MINI2 Newbie My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 01:58 AM Posts: 41 Offline	BMW owners should be happy - BMW brought the MINI in to able to sell in this car segment, which they have done brilliantly. And because they've used a different badge they haven't degraded their brand like Merc did with the A Class. (It helps that the MINI is such a great car too)

Mar 10th, 2004, 06:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
theminiv MINI2 Veteran My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Britain Local Time: 12:58 AM Posts: 579 Offline	I tried selling my mini and going to a 3 series, but due to the potential 'kick in' from some of my mini owning friends, i decided not to. And, to be honest. I AM SO GLAD THAT I KEPT WITH MINI. I dont wanna jump 20 years in my life by owning one of them!!!! Focus > Mini One > Mini Cooper > Mini Cooper > BMW 316 > BMW 318 > MINI ONE > BMW 120i > MINI ONE PEPPER! - IM BACK!!

Mar 10th, 2004, 11:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Aqualung Sitting on a park bench.. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bahstun, MA Local Time: 08:58 PM Posts: 1,183 Offline	And what are they going to do when the BMW 1 owners wanna join in?

Mar 10th, 2004, 11:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 07:58 PM Posts: 3,267 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Aqualung And what are they going to do when the BMW 1 owners wanna join in? That's probably why they made the big deal about the roundel. So they'll be annoyed, but they'll have to shut up. I think the response was quite appropos. Especially since there's BMW printed all over a MINI if you know where to look, and I got a free subscription to BMW magazine (or whatever its called) with my car - which barely had any MINI news - it kept trying to subtly sell me a 7 series and a watch that cost more then my MINI. Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

Mar 11th, 2004, 02:34 AM	#15 (permalink)
Rick Anderson MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tustin Ranch, CA Local Time: 05:58 PM Posts: 111 Offline	Well, I am a former BMW owner, a present classic Mini owner, and a very soon-to-be MINI Cooper owner. All I can say is that I love them all, except maybe the BMW which was an absolute hunk of crap. I believe that too many people confuse their identities with the type of car they drive, especially here in California. I have been a car nut for my entire life and I can honestly say that the new MINI is the coolest car ever.

Mar 11th, 2004, 02:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 04:58 PM Posts: 8,620 Online	I loved my old BMW and hated having to sell it I didn't renew my BMW CCA membership last year.

Mar 11th, 2004, 04:31 AM	#17 (permalink)
shanemcr on a three hour tour Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sunny Seattle Local Time: 05:58 PM Posts: 1,291 Offline	skrew 'em Quote: Originally Posted by ABG Just my opinion but this looks like more of US issue than a UK one - in the US (as I understand it) a lot of buyer buy BMWs for their status above all else. That's a much lower priority in the UK where the 3 series is a very common car. BTW there are also a fair few MINI owners who have BMWs - myself included I think there are some people who can never be happy--they'll always find something to be bitter about or to feel superior about; I think that transcends country but you may be right ABG that wrt BMW this is more of a US thing, though dog know there are plenty of 3-series over here, too (mine included). I love my BMW, but I'm going to be happy become a MINI owner (end of June).

Mar 11th, 2004, 05:02 AM	#18 (permalink)
nonsequitur MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle area, WA Local Time: 04:58 PM Posts: 1,471 Offline	Relax The Mini has always been a little on the edge, and now our MINI continues that tradition. Everyone owned, or wanted to own, a Mini. There's fast growing feeling for MINI. Here is a most interesting picture of the new 1 Series from BMW, with the MINI leading: http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/03/..._info#comments Remember that the MINI brand is a grand [and relatively inexpensive] experiment for BMW Group that just happens to be working very well, Thank You. The MINI order process, customized mass production, waiting experience, and many vehicle engineering tests have provided a new baseline for BMW Group to bring cars like the 1 Series into the market. The BMW purists just are not looking at the company with the perspective that the family and Board are now using to manage these two successful brands, BMW and MINI. Take heart that your car is showing the way to a refreshed BMW. '02 MINI Cooper CVT(6/12/02; Indi Blue/Black, R-81 7-hole 15x5.5" or NZO 16x6.5") '67 Austin Cooper S (6/26/67; Tartan Red/Black, 10x4.5")

Mar 11th, 2004, 08:14 AM	#19 (permalink)
gibbon puddled primate Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: barrel of red wine Local Time: 01:58 AM Posts: 209 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by moorlockx It's not a BMW! Rich Mammano Ahhh ! That's pretty cool I'm glad my MINI isn't a BMW http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/gibbon/27059.jpg

Mar 11th, 2004, 08:22 AM	#20 (permalink)
minisoopercooper Some have THICK skins!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bristol Local Time: 12:58 AM Posts: 21,059 Offline	even though it clearly says "built by BMW" under the bonnett!

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