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chuckie · Mar 29th, 2002, 12:02 PM

How much does it cost to put on? does it inolvde a whole new back bumper?

J.N. · Mar 29th, 2002, 03:41 PM

Look out of the back window.

That's where the end is!

Make beeping noises yourself. Much cheaper.

spanky2k · Mar 29th, 2002, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J.N.
Look out of the back window.

That's where the end is!

Make beeping noises yourself. Much cheaper.

LOL!!!

(made me laugh!)

chuckie · Mar 29th, 2002, 06:17 PM

Well, well when parking in close spaces i mean very close... you need to know exactly how much space there is..

also u can't always judge is that clost.. the front is fine as you can see the end...

An_S_4_Me · Mar 29th, 2002, 06:47 PM

PDC? In the words of Marc & Lard

NO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!

You can touch the back window, only someone like my grandma would 'need' them, they make a pigs ear of your rear bumper too.

Andy

Sejanus · Mar 29th, 2002, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by An_S_4_Me
PDC? In the words of Marc & Lard

NO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!

You can touch the back window, only someone like my grandma would 'need' them, they make a pigs ear of your rear bumper too.

Andy

Well I don't know if I'm like your Grandma (hope not for her sake), but I have been known to have a "senior moment" or two while backing up. What exactly do they do to the back bumper?

An_S_4_Me · Mar 29th, 2002, 07:05 PM

Sejanus,

I am sure you don't drive like my grandma

pretty good job too, she cant see past the steering wheel.

With the PDC you need 4 sensors embedded into the rear bumper, this picture is not the best to illustrate this, but you get the idea.

I think they look a mess.

Andy

Sejanus · Mar 30th, 2002, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by An_S_4_Me
Sejanus,

I am sure you don't drive like my grandma pretty good job too, she cant see past the steering wheel.

With the PDC you need 4 sensors embedded into the rear bumper, this picture is not the best to illustrate this, but you get the idea.

I think they look a mess.

Andy

Thanks for the visual. I assume the little grey circles are the sensors? Hmmm, I see what you mean, of course, backing into something too hard would probably make my bumper look even worse.

Martin L · Apr 2nd, 2002, 12:21 PM

I read somewhere that it beeps until the distance gets to 20cms! then it's a constant pitch.
I think that's a bit useless as if you're going for a tight spot you'll need that extra 20cm's.
Stick to using your eyes, all you need to do is lean back and you can literally see out the back window

GizzmoGeek · Apr 2nd, 2002, 12:34 PM

Leaning and looking right out the back window would depend on your height. I'm short, however I still do not see the need for the parking control. The car really isn't that big and if you are parking in a space that tight - maybe you should park elsewhere! Wouldn't want the other bloke to dent your bumper when he pulls out now would you?

BruceK · Apr 2nd, 2002, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GizzmoGeek
...Wouldn't want the other bloke to dent your bumper when he pulls out now would you?

Especially not with those expensive PDC sensors in the bumper!

InsiderMINI · Apr 2nd, 2002, 01:52 PM

Having driven lots of MINIs and BMWs, PDC is not essential for an able bodied person (i.e. if you can turn your head). It is so easy to park a MINI, IMHO, the money could be spent better on some other option. However, driving cars such as a BMW 3 series coupe, 5 or 7 series, PDC is a useful aid since the car is relatively long (with a boot/trunk overhang) and it is harder to judge where the rear of the car is.

Martin L is correct in saying that the last few CMs/inches, the beeps change to a continuous tone so that you have to guess this last part if trying to slot in the tightest of spaces. However after a few times, you soon understand how much further you can reverse the car after the continuous tone commences.

Van Cooper · Apr 9th, 2002, 04:07 AM

The PDC is a must on bigger cars like the 5 series and such but I don't see a need on such a small car, even in a urban area...

Sejanus · Apr 12th, 2002, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Van Cooper
The PDC is a must on bigger cars like the 5 series and such but I don't see a need on such a small car, even in a urban area...

Its a gadget, it makes beeping noises, 'nuff said.

groovy_jr · Apr 14th, 2002, 02:53 PM

I am having PDC....for two reasons:

1. Because it is a gadget as sejanus says
2. .....and most importantly I have a small garage which was built early 80's when cars were small and only have 10 spare cm's so need it!

chuckie · Apr 14th, 2002, 04:59 PM

Have you got a price from your dealer to fit it?

the unit itself i believe is £200.. but don't know how much they will charge?

groovy_jr · Apr 15th, 2002, 03:06 PM

That is right...it does cost 200 quid!

Damo · Apr 15th, 2002, 08:41 PM

Ignore those who Jibe at you!

I laughed at the dealer when my Mum's car arrived with PDC (BMW 318Ci) as standard. Saying thats for old people and people who can't drive! I have to say, I've changed my arrogant and short sided opinion since using the car!

It helps people whoaren't good at parking, and makes those who are good at parking even better!

Plus the other advantages of it, (nothing to do with Mini's) is it allows a much larger scope for designers of cars. no longer do they have to design cars that you can see the boot and bonnet of, making cars more Aerodynamic and Better looking!

I have to say tho, PDC on a mini tho does seem a bit much. I can almost touch the boot from the drivers position! But each to there own! If I could of afforded it, I would of probably put it on!

BTW is it delaer fit or Facotry fit for £200

groovy_jr · Apr 16th, 2002, 02:31 PM

hehehe...I knew you would come around Damo!

Damo · Apr 16th, 2002, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by groovy_jr
hehehe...I knew you would come around Damo!

That still doesn't answer my question PDC boy

Mar 29th, 2002, 12:02 PM	#1
chuckie MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 14 Offline	PDC on cooper How much does it cost to put on? does it inolvde a whole new back bumper?

Mar 29th, 2002, 06:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
spanky2k MINI2 Crash Test Driver Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brighton Local Time: 02:04 AM Posts: 1,384 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by J.N. Look out of the back window. That's where the end is! Make beeping noises yourself. Much cheaper. LOL!!! (made me laugh!) Spanky2k Officially the worst MINI driver in the Universe!!!

Mar 29th, 2002, 06:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
chuckie MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 14 Offline	haha Well, well when parking in close spaces i mean very close... you need to know exactly how much space there is.. also u can't always judge is that clost.. the front is fine as you can see the end...

Mar 29th, 2002, 06:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
An_S_4_Me MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wakefield, UK Local Time: 02:04 AM Posts: 572 Offline	PDC? In the words of Marc & Lard NO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEED! You can touch the back window, only someone like my grandma would 'need' them, they make a pigs ear of your rear bumper too. Andy DS Cooper S w/white bits, DSC, 1/2 Leather all black trim, CHILI Pack, TLC - ARRIVED 01/07/02 Sold 29th May 2004 to make way for house

Mar 29th, 2002, 07:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
An_S_4_Me MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wakefield, UK Local Time: 02:04 AM Posts: 572 Offline	Sejanus, I am sure you don't drive like my grandma pretty good job too, she cant see past the steering wheel. With the PDC you need 4 sensors embedded into the rear bumper, this picture is not the best to illustrate this, but you get the idea. I think they look a mess. Andy DS Cooper S w/white bits, DSC, 1/2 Leather all black trim, CHILI Pack, TLC - ARRIVED 01/07/02 Sold 29th May 2004 to make way for house

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Mar 29th, 2002, 03:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
J.N. MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Norfolk UK Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 133 Offline	Look out of the back window. That's where the end is! Make beeping noises yourself. Much cheaper.

Mar 29th, 2002, 06:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sejanus MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: West Sacramento Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 4,380 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by An_S_4_Me PDC? In the words of Marc & Lard NO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEED! You can touch the back window, only someone like my grandma would 'need' them, they make a pigs ear of your rear bumper too. Andy Well I don't know if I'm like your Grandma (hope not for her sake), but I have been known to have a "senior moment" or two while backing up. What exactly do they do to the back bumper?

Mar 30th, 2002, 03:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
Sejanus MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: West Sacramento Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 4,380 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by An_S_4_Me Sejanus, I am sure you don't drive like my grandma pretty good job too, she cant see past the steering wheel. With the PDC you need 4 sensors embedded into the rear bumper, this picture is not the best to illustrate this, but you get the idea. I think they look a mess. Andy Thanks for the visual. I assume the little grey circles are the sensors? Hmmm, I see what you mean, of course, backing into something too hard would probably make my bumper look even worse.

Apr 2nd, 2002, 12:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 13,666 Offline	PDC - Pretty Darn Crap I read somewhere that it beeps until the distance gets to 20cms! then it's a constant pitch. I think that's a bit useless as if you're going for a tight spot you'll need that extra 20cm's. Stick to using your eyes, all you need to do is lean back and you can literally see out the back window

Apr 2nd, 2002, 12:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
GizzmoGeek MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Local Time: 09:04 PM Posts: 62 Offline	Leaning and looking right out the back window would depend on your height. I'm short, however I still do not see the need for the parking control. The car really isn't that big and if you are parking in a space that tight - maybe you should park elsewhere! Wouldn't want the other bloke to dent your bumper when he pulls out now would you? MINIMINIMINIMINIMINIMINIMINI

Apr 2nd, 2002, 12:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 07:04 PM Posts: 3,758 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by GizzmoGeek ...Wouldn't want the other bloke to dent your bumper when he pulls out now would you? Especially not with those expensive PDC sensors in the bumper! + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Apr 2nd, 2002, 01:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
InsiderMINI MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2001 Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 46 Offline	Having driven lots of MINIs and BMWs, PDC is not essential for an able bodied person (i.e. if you can turn your head). It is so easy to park a MINI, IMHO, the money could be spent better on some other option. However, driving cars such as a BMW 3 series coupe, 5 or 7 series, PDC is a useful aid since the car is relatively long (with a boot/trunk overhang) and it is harder to judge where the rear of the car is. Martin L is correct in saying that the last few CMs/inches, the beeps change to a continuous tone so that you have to guess this last part if trying to slot in the tightest of spaces. However after a few times, you soon understand how much further you can reverse the car after the continuous tone commences.

Apr 9th, 2002, 04:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
Van Cooper MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 47 Offline	The PDC is a must on bigger cars like the 5 series and such but I don't see a need on such a small car, even in a urban area... Guillaume 2002 Mini Cooper Launch edition #250/500 - Red/white roof - SOLD 2003 Mini Cooper S red/white - Mine 2004 Mercedes Benz E55 AMG -black/black - father's

Apr 12th, 2002, 01:30 AM	#14 (permalink)
Sejanus MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: West Sacramento Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 4,380 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Van Cooper The PDC is a must on bigger cars like the 5 series and such but I don't see a need on such a small car, even in a urban area... Its a gadget, it makes beeping noises, 'nuff said.

Apr 14th, 2002, 02:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
groovy_jr MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lincolnshire, UK Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 524 Offline	I am having PDC....for two reasons: 1. Because it is a gadget as sejanus says 2. .....and most importantly I have a small garage which was built early 80's when cars were small and only have 10 spare cm's so need it!

Apr 14th, 2002, 04:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
chuckie MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 14 Offline	Quote from dealer to fit PDC Have you got a price from your dealer to fit it? the unit itself i believe is £200.. but don't know how much they will charge?

Apr 15th, 2002, 03:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
groovy_jr MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lincolnshire, UK Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 524 Offline	That is right...it does cost 200 quid!

Apr 15th, 2002, 08:41 PM	#18 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 10,526 Offline	Ignore those who Jibe at you! I laughed at the dealer when my Mum's car arrived with PDC (BMW 318Ci) as standard. Saying thats for old people and people who can't drive! I have to say, I've changed my arrogant and short sided opinion since using the car! It helps people whoaren't good at parking, and makes those who are good at parking even better! Plus the other advantages of it, (nothing to do with Mini's) is it allows a much larger scope for designers of cars. no longer do they have to design cars that you can see the boot and bonnet of, making cars more Aerodynamic and Better looking! I have to say tho, PDC on a mini tho does seem a bit much. I can almost touch the boot from the drivers position! But each to there own! If I could of afforded it, I would of probably put it on! BTW is it delaer fit or Facotry fit for £200

Apr 16th, 2002, 02:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
groovy_jr MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lincolnshire, UK Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 524 Offline	hehehe...I knew you would come around Damo!

Apr 16th, 2002, 07:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 01:04 AM Posts: 10,526 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by groovy_jr hehehe...I knew you would come around Damo! That still doesn't answer my question PDC boy

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