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dav · Apr 11th, 2004, 12:37 PM

I love my 2004 MCS with 10,000 troublefree miles, but if this deal was around when I purchased my Cooper S I would have been very, very tempted. Found this ad in the local paper here is So Cal on Saturday. I just love that new Renesis Rotary powerplant. Smoooooooooooth.......

badboyzbadboyz · Apr 11th, 2004, 01:02 PM

They are nice cars no doubt and my friend is thinking of getting one so I went with him on his test drive the other week. We went out in the 230bhp version. The first thing I noticed was how low the car was, giving it a real sporty feel. He didn't drive it too hard coz the salesman was moaning about the amount of people that just want a drive it and are not actually interested in buying it. It felt very different to my MCS. I know its a faster car if you drive it hard, but the lack of torque was more noticable in the RX-8 than any other car I have been in. Like when he powered out of a roundabout it didn't seem to have the urgency of a MCS. The engine does sound very nice, kinda like a powerful motorbike.

dcfkan · Apr 11th, 2004, 01:18 PM

I know of someone who is tempted by a RX-8 too

DK

:apple:

Cold Side · Apr 11th, 2004, 02:17 PM

No. I just don't like it at all. People rave about the rotary engine and the suicide doors but for me they are both negative points. The engine needs revving a ridiculous amount to get any power out of it and has no torque at the lower end. The suicide doors mean that the front doors are small, like on a four door car. I like nice wide doors like on a coupe or 3dr.

Then there's the price, it is 50% more expensive than the MCS in the UK. And of course that's not taking into account the petrol. Oh sure, doing a small amount of revs it might get the claimed 24 mpg but the engine needs revving hard and you don't get anywhere near that. Considering I get 25mpg out of my One I'd probably get about 10 out of the RX-8, the power does peak at 8200 rpm afterall. And remember petrol in the UK is about $7 per gallon.

Sorry to go off on a rant but a lot of friends are considering defecting to the RX-8 and it's starting to annoy me. I don't think any of them bothered after they test drove it though.

stryder · Apr 11th, 2004, 02:38 PM

Troublefree is not what I'd call an RX-8. As someone who owns an RX-7, mazda still needs to figure out some issues with getting a reliable rotary on the road. Engines have been failing on the RX-8's, and while the car is cool, I'd very much wait a few years to get one (or maybe they'll make an RX-7 with some torque and ditch the back seats) once they've sorted out the issues that were created with the Renesis engine.

There's discussion about the rx-8 in several places, try searching for it, its a common comparison car, though I don't think anyone has actually traded in a MINI for one.

Rick Anderson · Apr 11th, 2004, 03:29 PM

Paul! · Apr 11th, 2004, 03:33 PM

Nah. It's like when I decided to actually buy a MINI, my brother wanted me to test drive a whole heapin' helpin' of other cars first (inc. an RX-8). I simply wasn't interested. For me, a MINI is in a class by itself, and I really can't compare it to other cars. It's kinda like you're buying into a whole lifestyle, not just a car!

BobbySueZQ · Apr 11th, 2004, 03:59 PM

Nope ... but if a mint numbers matching 61 corvette came my way I mighta blinked twice before purachasing the MCS.

Humourl3ss · Apr 11th, 2004, 04:16 PM

Not my bucket of blood if I'm to only have one car. The four door thing is pretty much irrelevant to me (In the 17 months I've owned a MINI I've had precisely two occasions to use the back seat for passengers) and I've had my fair share of torqueless but super-revvy motors already (Hondas though, not Mazda rotaries). Still, it's make a fun second car....

-CW

KennyP · Apr 11th, 2004, 04:40 PM

The RX-8 is a very nice car, but nothing else is a Mini.

harveyjoseph · Apr 11th, 2004, 05:31 PM

Nope!!! my JCS/MCS was the chioce for me!!!!

Barnabas · Apr 11th, 2004, 05:39 PM

Like everyone says, "It's no MINI". RX8 is a nice car, but you probably won't have as much fun as you do in the MINI.

ImaVunDerBrah · Apr 11th, 2004, 06:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul!

For me, a MINI is in a class by itself, and I really can't compare it to other cars. It's kinda like you're buying into a whole lifestyle, not just a car!

I agree!

My mom just sold her 2001 Jetta for a new RX-8 that looks just like this one...

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/MazdaRX8/Photos.htm

Its a beautiful car and a ton of fun to drive but I wouldn't want one in lieu of a MINI. If I set out to buy a MINI and ended up with an RX-8 I can't imagine I would be satisfied...

I just don't think they can be compared. My mom adores my MINI but the RX-8 suits her more.

-Stef

R1 · Apr 11th, 2004, 06:05 PM

Yes!

JBOO · Apr 11th, 2004, 06:10 PM

I definitely like it and yes, for that deal, I would have bought it over the MCS.

NEMINI · Apr 11th, 2004, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Would you have bought this RX-8 instead of your Mini?

Absolutely NOT

Johnny225 · Apr 11th, 2004, 06:41 PM

At one point in time, I was seriously considering buying the RX-8. I think it drives fantastic, and love the Rotory engine, but if you go to some of the RX-8 forums, you'll find that almost everyone has some sort of major problem with their car. The engine floods, thereby prohibiting starting the engine, the engine failed in some cars, etc. When some people called the RX-8 the ford of cars, I decided it wasn't a good idea to buy that. And frankly, I don't regret it either! Many people on the RX-8 forums were dejected that no one looked at their cars anymore, well we'll never have to worry about that in our MINIs!

Paul! · Apr 11th, 2004, 08:26 PM

R1 & JBOO,

Blasphemers!!!

-Paul!

Robert Stancliff · Apr 11th, 2004, 08:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BobbySueZQ

Nope ... but if a mint numbers matching 61 corvette came my way I mighta blinked twice before purachasing the MCS.

Me too, ditto 58,59 60 or 62 Corvette. There aren't too many available and the nice ones are very expensive. But there're terrific. Owned a 67 Corvette convertible back in 68.....great car.

Z1GZAG N · Apr 11th, 2004, 08:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Robert Stancliff

Me too, ditto 58,59 60 or 62 Corvette. There aren't too many available and the nice ones are very expensive. But there're terrific. Owned a 67 Corvette convertible back in 68.....great car.

Me three, 58, 9 or 60 Corvette would be great. But then I've got the 88 sitting in the garage while I'm blasting around in the MCS. As for the Mazda, no way. It's just another asian wanna be. No real passion.

Apr 11th, 2004, 12:37 PM	#1
dav MINI2 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA; So. CA Local Time: 06:02 PM Posts: 259 Offline	Would you have bought this RX-8 instead of your Mini? I love my 2004 MCS with 10,000 troublefree miles, but if this deal was around when I purchased my Cooper S I would have been very, very tempted. Found this ad in the local paper here is So Cal on Saturday. I just love that new Renesis Rotary powerplant. Smoooooooooooth....... 2004 MCS BORN 9-'03 http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A4%3B...C7823535wp1lsi http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A4%3B...74853%3Bwp1lsi

Apr 11th, 2004, 02:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
stryder Sponsor/Moderator/Other Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 09:02 PM Posts: 3,358 Offline	Troublefree is not what I'd call an RX-8. As someone who owns an RX-7, mazda still needs to figure out some issues with getting a reliable rotary on the road. Engines have been failing on the RX-8's, and while the car is cool, I'd very much wait a few years to get one (or maybe they'll make an RX-7 with some torque and ditch the back seats) once they've sorted out the issues that were created with the Renesis engine. There's discussion about the rx-8 in several places, try searching for it, its a common comparison car, though I don't think anyone has actually traded in a MINI for one. Magic 8-ball was correct. All be in awe of Magic 8 ball.

Apr 11th, 2004, 03:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
BobbySueZQ MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Knoxville, ATL, L.A. Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 133 Offline	Nope ... but if a mint numbers matching 61 corvette came my way I mighta blinked twice before purachasing the MCS. I don't drive too fast ... you just look too slow! We're not lost ... this is the scenic route Mr. Q's blog

Apr 11th, 2004, 04:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Humourl3ss Now With More Cowbell Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada City Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 1,767 Offline	Not my bucket of blood if I'm to only have one car. The four door thing is pretty much irrelevant to me (In the 17 months I've owned a MINI I've had precisely two occasions to use the back seat for passengers) and I've had my fair share of torqueless but super-revvy motors already (Hondas though, not Mazda rotaries). Still, it's make a fun second car.... -CW Global Moderator

Apr 11th, 2004, 04:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
KennyP MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Local Time: 08:02 PM Posts: 34 Offline	Nope The RX-8 is a very nice car, but nothing else is a Mini.

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Apr 11th, 2004, 01:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
badboyzbadboyz MINI2 Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 02:02 AM Posts: 1,257 Offline	They are nice cars no doubt and my friend is thinking of getting one so I went with him on his test drive the other week. We went out in the 230bhp version. The first thing I noticed was how low the car was, giving it a real sporty feel. He didn't drive it too hard coz the salesman was moaning about the amount of people that just want a drive it and are not actually interested in buying it. It felt very different to my MCS. I know its a faster car if you drive it hard, but the lack of torque was more noticable in the RX-8 than any other car I have been in. Like when he powered out of a roundabout it didn't seem to have the urgency of a MCS. The engine does sound very nice, kinda like a powerful motorbike.

Apr 11th, 2004, 01:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
dcfkan In exile, down SOUTH! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: London WC1 Local Time: 03:02 AM Posts: 13,580 Offline	I know of someone who is tempted by a RX-8 too DK :apple:

Apr 11th, 2004, 02:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Cold Side Animal Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Location Location Local Time: 03:02 AM Posts: 12,136 Offline	No. I just don't like it at all. People rave about the rotary engine and the suicide doors but for me they are both negative points. The engine needs revving a ridiculous amount to get any power out of it and has no torque at the lower end. The suicide doors mean that the front doors are small, like on a four door car. I like nice wide doors like on a coupe or 3dr. Then there's the price, it is 50% more expensive than the MCS in the UK. And of course that's not taking into account the petrol. Oh sure, doing a small amount of revs it might get the claimed 24 mpg but the engine needs revving hard and you don't get anywhere near that. Considering I get 25mpg out of my One I'd probably get about 10 out of the RX-8, the power does peak at 8200 rpm afterall. And remember petrol in the UK is about $7 per gallon. Sorry to go off on a rant but a lot of friends are considering defecting to the RX-8 and it's starting to annoy me. I don't think any of them bothered after they test drove it though.

Apr 11th, 2004, 03:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rick Anderson MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tustin Ranch, CA Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 125 Offline	No.

Apr 11th, 2004, 03:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
Paul! Ride The Dragon! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Columbia, MD Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 306 Offline	Nah. It's like when I decided to actually buy a MINI, my brother wanted me to test drive a whole heapin' helpin' of other cars first (inc. an RX-8). I simply wasn't interested. For me, a MINI is in a class by itself, and I really can't compare it to other cars. It's kinda like you're buying into a whole lifestyle, not just a car!

Apr 11th, 2004, 05:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
harveyjoseph Goin to fast to look back Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Merrimack, NH Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 1,825 Offline	Nope!!! my JCS/MCS was the chioce for me!!!! harveyjoseph's Webpage JCW 210 Equipped

Apr 11th, 2004, 05:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
Barnabas Destroying your MINI Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 1,195 Offline	Like everyone says, "It's no MINI". RX8 is a nice car, but you probably won't have as much fun as you do in the MINI.

Apr 11th, 2004, 06:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
ImaVunDerBrah Slippery When Wet Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Michigan Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 2,573 Offline	New RX-8 in the family... Quote: Originally Posted by Paul! For me, a MINI is in a class by itself, and I really can't compare it to other cars. It's kinda like you're buying into a whole lifestyle, not just a car! I agree! My mom just sold her 2001 Jetta for a new RX-8 that looks just like this one... http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/MazdaRX8/Photos.htm Its a beautiful car and a ton of fun to drive but I wouldn't want one in lieu of a MINI. If I set out to buy a MINI and ended up with an RX-8 I can't imagine I would be satisfied... I just don't think they can be compared. My mom adores my MINI but the RX-8 suits her more. -Stef back in action

Apr 11th, 2004, 06:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 03:02 AM Posts: 4,915 Offline	Yes!

Apr 11th, 2004, 06:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
JBOO MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Netherlands Local Time: 03:02 AM Posts: 387 Offline	I definitely like it and yes, for that deal, I would have bought it over the MCS. Digi-Tec MCS Gone Life without a supercharger is boring

Apr 11th, 2004, 06:20 PM	#16 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 09:02 PM Posts: 7,911 Offline	Quote: Would you have bought this RX-8 instead of your Mini? Absolutely NOT NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Apr 11th, 2004, 06:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
Johnny225 Mr Buttons! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Local Time: 06:02 PM Posts: 845 Offline	At one point in time, I was seriously considering buying the RX-8. I think it drives fantastic, and love the Rotory engine, but if you go to some of the RX-8 forums, you'll find that almost everyone has some sort of major problem with their car. The engine floods, thereby prohibiting starting the engine, the engine failed in some cars, etc. When some people called the RX-8 the ford of cars, I decided it wasn't a good idea to buy that. And frankly, I don't regret it either! Many people on the RX-8 forums were dejected that no one looked at their cars anymore, well we'll never have to worry about that in our MINIs!

Apr 11th, 2004, 08:26 PM	#18 (permalink)
Paul! Ride The Dragon! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Columbia, MD Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 306 Offline	R1 & JBOO, Blasphemers!!! -Paul!

Apr 11th, 2004, 08:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
Robert Stancliff MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 09:02 PM Posts: 202 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by BobbySueZQ Nope ... but if a mint numbers matching 61 corvette came my way I mighta blinked twice before purachasing the MCS. Me too, ditto 58,59 60 or 62 Corvette. There aren't too many available and the nice ones are very expensive. But there're terrific. Owned a 67 Corvette convertible back in 68.....great car. Robert Stancliff Sr.

Apr 11th, 2004, 08:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
Z1GZAG N MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley, FL Local Time: 09:02 PM Posts: 1,434 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Robert Stancliff Me too, ditto 58,59 60 or 62 Corvette. There aren't too many available and the nice ones are very expensive. But there're terrific. Owned a 67 Corvette convertible back in 68.....great car. Me three, 58, 9 or 60 Corvette would be great. But then I've got the 88 sitting in the garage while I'm blasting around in the MCS. As for the Mazda, no way. It's just another asian wanna be. No real passion.

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