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Old Apr 30th, 2004, 09:30 PM
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United-Kingdom I've seen a 400bhp Mini Cooper S!!!!!.....

Been to AMD today to have my intercooler evaluated by these guys and was shown their Mini Cooper S, 302 bhp, with NOS 400bhp, they showed me the power figures on there rolling road.

At one point they were putting so much power through the wheels that it blow the intercooler off and destroyed the front end of the car, when they shown me the remains of the intercooler I was flabbergasted.

Although this car was to prove a point, these guys know what they’re doing, and I’d recommended them to anyone who wants that little bit more bhp.

I did however ask a couple of questions which have been asked on this site;

Can you run a One Click chip without running a smaller pulley?, This is not recommended as there would be far to much fuel and no gains in bhp would be made.

If I run a bigger intercooler will there be any loss in boost? No because the smaller pulley is set to run a certain amount, when this pressure is reached a valve opens the other side of the intercooler near the throttle body to release any excess pressure.

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Old Apr 30th, 2004, 10:36 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GRSmotorsport

If I run a bigger intercooler will there be any loss in boost? No because the smaller pulley is set to run a certain amount, when this pressure is reached a valve opens the other side of the intercooler near the throttle body to release any excess pressure.

Ya lost me a little here GRS.
First you're talking about loss of boost and then you're talking about losing excess pressure.
Explain a little better please.

Cool news though, Thanks
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Old Apr 30th, 2004, 10:45 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by obehave
Ya lost me a little here GRS.
First you're talking about loss of boost and then you're talking about losing excess pressure.
Explain a little better please.

Cool news though, Thanks

I’ve been asked if you’re using a bigger intercooler than standard that there’s a bigger volume of air needed to fill the intercooler, some customers have asked if there would be a loss of boost pressure at the outlet end of the intercooler due to the extra size. Hope that makes sense?

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Quote: Originally Posted by GRSmotorsport
Been to AMD today to have my intercooler evaluated by these guys and was shown their Mini Cooper S, 302 bhp, with NOS 400bhp, they showed me the power figures on there rolling road.

At one point they were putting so much power through the wheels that it blow the intercooler off and destroyed the front end of the car, when they shown me the remains of the intercooler I was flabbergasted.

Although this car was to prove a point, these guys know what they’re doing, and I’d recommended them to anyone who wants that little bit more bhp.

I did however ask a couple of questions which have been asked on this site;

Can you run a One Click chip without running a smaller pulley?, This is not recommended as there would be far to much fuel and no gains in bhp would be made.

If I run a bigger intercooler will there be any loss in boost? No because the smaller pulley is set to run a certain amount, when this pressure is reached a valve opens the other side of the intercooler near the throttle body to release any excess pressure.


Hi
This is a welcome bit of news for me, I have shown a lot of interest in the AMD stage 6 conversion but as yet I have heard nothing from AMD about its progrees, did you get any imfo?, I know they are testing a charge cooler at the moment and they assure me they will have results soon, I spoke to them about there 400bhp MCS not so long ago and they said that they had "streched the head bolts" but that it was running fine up to that point , the 300bhp barrier is an amazing achievement but to add nos to it

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Old Apr 30th, 2004, 11:11 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GRSmotorsport
I’ve been asked if you’re using a bigger intercooler than standard that there’s a bigger volume of air needed to fill the intercooler, some customers have asked if there would be a loss of boost pressure at the outlet end of the intercooler due to the extra size. Hope that makes sense?

That I understand. I didn't/don't understand the valve opens part and what that has to do with losing pressure with a larger IC.

Sorry, bit dense tonight.
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Old Apr 30th, 2004, 11:20 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by rasp
Hi
This is a welcome bit of news for me, I have shown a lot of interest in the AMD stage 6 conversion but as yet I have heard nothing from AMD about its progrees, did you get any imfo?, I know they are testing a charge cooler at the moment and they assure me they will have results soon, I spoke to them about there 400bhp MCS not so long ago and they said that they had "streched the head bolts" but that it was running fine up to that point , the 300bhp barrier is an amazing achievement but to add nos to it

Rasp

They showed me a charge cooler that had been made up using an original intercooler with a water jacket built around it. In my experience charge coolers only work up to 14psi after this they can’t cope with the high boost temps, there’s heat soak to consider plus these systems are very expensive to produce.

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The One - Click gives no extra BHP without a smaller pulley????????????????????????

If that is the case they are selling the One Click on false pretences because their ads say 8 BHP and don't mention the pulley - they also say that consumption and emissions will be maintained/improved???

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Do they upgrade the gearbox too, whilst running at 300bhp..???

My understanding is the gearbox is rated to 250bhp........300 or 400 bhp will shorten the life expectancy by quite a large amount.......if they do, what do they alter....???

Also bear in mind the gearbox is incredibly compact, and that by increasing the gear facewidths (which you would need to do to cope with the higher output) the overall length of the 'box will also increase.

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Max,

No I didn’t get to drive the MCS, I believe the engine was having some problems plus the front bumper was hanging off!!. It’s still running a standard bottom end but I was told the engine was very tried, not surprising really with that BHP.

wobert123

Not sure about the gearbox, but I’m sure they’ve done a little something to improve it with that power

MINIALEX,

The One click chip needs the pulley to work effectively, I believe they’ve designed it to work together, personally I see no point in using half the tuning parts. The chips been designed to run more fuel with a different advance curve, so you need the pulley to get the full benefit

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I really don't know why everyone wants so much horsepower! 400 in a MINI is crazy! Especially in a front wheel drive. Getting all that hp to the ground would be a pretty difficult task!
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400BHP holy moly gaucamole!

Good to see someone from Somerset in here!
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Old May 3rd, 2004, 09:24 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Max
Well there are quite a few of us who bought outta Westerley Yeovil

[A Great Dealership btw ]

*and live locally* OK Germany is local I spose

Max

Small world , I did have a few problems with Westlerly though , I rang BMW Hq and everything was then rosey

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Quote: Originally Posted by YeovilJim
Graham the mods that you have listed to your car will have invalidated the warranty are they worth it ??

I pleased with the mods

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Old Jun 27th, 2004, 08:25 PM
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Is the reliability of the mods of a sufficient level that you are confident in having no manufacturers warranty to rely on ???

I would believe so, alot of people have higher spec mods with no problems

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400 bhp - lmao. in such a small front wheel driver 2!!!!!!
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