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Paul · Apr 24th, 2002, 10:33 AM

How many members so far RSAmerica, and do you have classic Mini's in the club too?

Basil · Apr 24th, 2002, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RSAmerica
The US "New" MINI Club is:

BMW Car Club of America bmwcca.org

how on earth would you know that was a MINI club. the MINI doesn't even get a mention that I could see.

PS. Sorry, welcome to MINI2.....he he he

MiniMoke · Apr 24th, 2002, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RSAmerica
The US "New" MINI Club is:

BMW Car Club of America bmwcca.org

No classic Mini's? I have a feeling MINI owners would be treated like stepchildren...

RSAmerica · Apr 24th, 2002, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil

how on earth would you know that was a MINI club. the MINI doesn't even get a mention that I could see.

PS. Sorry, welcome to MINI2.....he he he

I am a member of the NJ chapter of the BMWCCA. I emailed the NJ Chapter President this past weekend and asked him if the New MINI is part of the club. His reply was yes. And said that at the recent Driver Ed at Summit Point, WV a MINI participated. For more Info you may want to email National at BMWCCA.ORG for details.

David K.

TBDAugs · Apr 24th, 2002, 11:29 AM

teh BMW club is a good club for sure, and enjoys some corporate sponsorship from BMW. That's an advantage.

But, there's a lot of Mini's here in US, and more to come, and I don't think the BMW club wants the old mini's.

There's a pretty good deal of revenue involved in club membership of a popular marque. I would suggest that if ClubMini UK wants a piece of the US market they better get some infrastructure in place ASAP.

Else they'll lose it all to BMWCCA or whatever entrepreneur decides they have the time to form an independent Mini Club of America.

My 2 cents

ViperClubofAmericaugs

Casey · Apr 24th, 2002, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul_Mullett
How many members so far RSAmerica, and do you have classic Mini's in the club too?

the BMWCCA is HUGE in the states - with over 50 chapters through out the states. Problem is - MINI doesn't want it to be a BMW, they push hard for it not to be, then why should it be part of a BMW club? Yes, you don't need to own a BMW to be in the BMWCCA - for track days yes you can bring any car you want....but what is the point? If i was in a club for one make of car i wouldn't want it flooded with another make. I was a member of the BMWCCA, atleast I thought I am as I'm a big M3 fan, they gladly took my money, and I never got a mag from them, any club info, etc etc...nada nunca nil. Made a few attempts to contact them and got no reply. Oh well, I won't be going back. I want to be in a club with MINI fans...not m3 fans. I want to go on cruises with MINIs not BMWs. It isn't that i don't like BMWs, just I want a "MINI" club.

MINICCA - joke if you ask me - never got off the ground, and I really doubt it will. MINICCA is partial ran by Charlie from RoadFly and if you look at their MINI site there and see the complete lack of anything on it, what do you think a club ran partial by them would be like.... Plus i really don't think a club for both classics and new MINIs would work well. Sure I'd love to see it as I love both, and am a member of my local classic Mini club, but they don't much give a rats arse about the new MINI, they like old cars(not saying this to be offensive, they just have different tastes and don't care for the new MINI, i can respect that).

So basically we need a new MINI only club hence ClubMINI2. Hopefully there will people around the states that will be willing to start up ClubMINI2 chapters in their area. I will be doing one for Minnesota(actually at lunch going driving around town to look for a new MINI i heard was here..hehehe-recruting already).

Cheers

TBDAugs · Apr 24th, 2002, 12:24 PM

so then,

who's organizing the US regions?

I'm in Northern Oklahoma.

MidCentralAugs

Casey · Apr 24th, 2002, 12:34 PM

I started a thread http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...&threadid=6768 in the ClubMINI2 forum asking for people to sign up for their area to help run a local chapter of the club. Once we get a fair amount of people wanting to start local chapters we will all get together on #mini2 chat or something and discuss how we want to handle national events, etc as in the states it is a bit harder then then the UK due to the size differences...harder for everyone to make one National event when some people would have to drive a few days to get there.

Cheers

districtofc · Apr 24th, 2002, 12:46 PM

BMW Club Racing:

BMW CCA club racers will receive a six month subscription award for each class win (1 award per season). Grassroots Motorsports Stickers must be run on each side of the car.

Basil · Apr 24th, 2002, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Casey

So basically we need a new MINI only club hence ClubMINI2. Hopefully there will people around the states that will be willing to start up ClubMINI2 chapters in their area. I will be doing one for Minnesota(actually at lunch going driving around town to look for a new MINI i heard was here..hehehe-recruting already).

Cheers

Goes a good way to explaining why MINI2.com is the most popular MINI site on the net......and judging by everyone's enthusiasm here, will remain so for a long long time to come.

Yurinaut · Apr 25th, 2002, 09:01 AM

I agree with you Basil. This is the place to get the club going and so I have joined ClubMINI2 and you all should do the same!! I am also a member of the BMWCCA and have enjoyed the members and benefits of membership for years(wholesale costs on parts, owner appreciateion bonuses when you purchase new or Cert Pre-Owned, great monthly mag...etc).

Hopefully we can all help move ClubMINI2 to this level. Perhaps, BMW may want to throw their corporate sponsership hat into this ring. It certainly is the best established MINI site around and already has a strong readership. Any comments der Byerische Moteren Werks??

Mike

dukesantos · Apr 26th, 2002, 09:25 PM

TBD-- For what it's worth, there is another international mini register(club), check out www.minicooper.org. They are also based in UK, but have a group in Japan and reportedly are receptive to a USA region. Their cost to join is 22-33 pounds, depending on your domicile.

Bill Sz. · May 14th, 2002, 10:30 AM

If you live in or near Southern California, you might want to check out "Mini Owners of America - Los Angeles" or MOALA. The web-site address is: www.moala.org They sponsor rallies and other events. The club meets every third Wednesday of the month at Me-N-Ed's pizza restaurant at the corner of Carson and Paramount in Lakewood. They are real cool bunch of people!

Bryan J · May 14th, 2002, 09:00 PM

Hey there, all. First post here. I'm a long-time fan of VW Golfs and am waiting for a new Cooper S.

About 5 years ago, when the VW scene was just starting to take off, I helped get the Chicago Volkswagen Organization off the ground. At the time there were many established "vintage VW" clubs, but none had any interest in the GTI, Jetta, Corrado owners. With the help of a few friends and VWVortex.com (a website like Mini2), we were able to make a club for the new wave of enthusiasts.

The situation was similar to what New MINI owners face now. The BMWCCA is a great club; I'm currently a member, though I haven't had one for about five years. I don't believe that the CCA is the best place for MINI owners long-term. I feel the brand deserves its own club.

Although I am very busy running my business (we do performance and cosmetic enhancements for European cars) and I don't have the time to "run" a chapter or a club, I would be glad to assist the right people in taking the steps needed to properly set one up.

The Chicago area is large enough to support a chapter of a national club. There are three dealers in the area. If anyone is interested in setting something up, send me an e-mail.

On the subject of including older Minis in a new club, my experience with the VW scene is that owners of vintage cars tend to want to get together socially, show of their cars, swap parts, etc. I think many New MINI owners will be anxious to drive their cars at autocrosses, track days, and other similar events, as well as modifying them, and so on. I could be wrong, but that's what I've seen.

Bryan

dukesantos · May 15th, 2002, 12:36 AM

Hi- Great first post, I generally agree with your comments. I had a Cooper S years ago and I doubt if the two groups will mix much. Regarding BMW CCA, I am also a member and I think it would be wise to have some affiliation with them if possible. They have a lot of good programs, including track insurance, etc. Their board wants to be MINI inclusive.

Dodger · May 18th, 2002, 02:54 AM

Hello America MINI Fans!

I am really sorry for not answering some of your PM's or posting on here recently, Dodgeress has been a naughty girl!

Okay, on the serious side, I took a break for a week and have been trying to catch up on the backlog of work ever since, nearly there now though

I am locking this thread now and starting a new one in the ClubMINI2 forum where I would like everyone that is keen to help to register their names for me and then we can start communicating on a very regular basis and get this club rolling for you guys stateside!

Please register your names even if you have already done so elsewhere, as we are starting from scratch in earnest now

Lets get this show on the road............

Dodgeress xx

Apr 24th, 2002, 10:33 AM	#21
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 01:10 AM Posts: 40,356 Offline	How many members so far RSAmerica, and do you have classic Mini's in the club too? Our trials and tribulations living in a "bleeding edge" eco house... Oxley Woods Living

Apr 24th, 2002, 10:33 AM	#22 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:10 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Re: US MINI Club is BMWCCA Quote: Originally posted by RSAmerica The US "New" MINI Club is: BMW Car Club of America bmwcca.org how on earth would you know that was a MINI club. the MINI doesn't even get a mention that I could see. PS. Sorry, welcome to MINI2.....he he he

Apr 24th, 2002, 10:38 AM	#23 (permalink)
MiniMoke MINI2 Sponsor & Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toledo Ohio, USA Local Time: 08:10 PM Posts: 231 Offline	Re: US MINI Club is BMWCCA Quote: Originally posted by RSAmerica The US "New" MINI Club is: BMW Car Club of America bmwcca.org No classic Mini's? I have a feeling MINI owners would be treated like stepchildren... 2003 S, Electric blue white/roof, Premium, Cold Weather and Sport packs. Sept 15 Build/ Delivered Oct 20, 2002

Apr 24th, 2002, 11:00 AM	#24 (permalink)
RSAmerica MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NJ, USA Local Time: 08:10 PM Posts: 119 Offline	Re: Re: US MINI Club is BMWCCA Quote: Originally posted by Basil how on earth would you know that was a MINI club. the MINI doesn't even get a mention that I could see. PS. Sorry, welcome to MINI2.....he he he I am a member of the NJ chapter of the BMWCCA. I emailed the NJ Chapter President this past weekend and asked him if the New MINI is part of the club. His reply was yes. And said that at the recent Driver Ed at Summit Point, WV a MINI participated. For more Info you may want to email National at BMWCCA.ORG for details. David K.

Apr 24th, 2002, 11:29 AM	#25 (permalink)
TBDAugs MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 178 Offline	I dunno teh BMW club is a good club for sure, and enjoys some corporate sponsorship from BMW. That's an advantage. But, there's a lot of Mini's here in US, and more to come, and I don't think the BMW club wants the old mini's. There's a pretty good deal of revenue involved in club membership of a popular marque. I would suggest that if ClubMini UK wants a piece of the US market they better get some infrastructure in place ASAP. Else they'll lose it all to BMWCCA or whatever entrepreneur decides they have the time to form an independent Mini Club of America. My 2 cents ViperClubofAmericaugs

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Apr 24th, 2002, 12:16 PM	#26 (permalink)
Casey MINI2 co-founder Join Date: Jan 2001 Local Time: 08:10 PM Posts: 655 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Paul_Mullett How many members so far RSAmerica, and do you have classic Mini's in the club too? the BMWCCA is HUGE in the states - with over 50 chapters through out the states. Problem is - MINI doesn't want it to be a BMW, they push hard for it not to be, then why should it be part of a BMW club? Yes, you don't need to own a BMW to be in the BMWCCA - for track days yes you can bring any car you want....but what is the point? If i was in a club for one make of car i wouldn't want it flooded with another make. I was a member of the BMWCCA, atleast I thought I am as I'm a big M3 fan, they gladly took my money, and I never got a mag from them, any club info, etc etc...nada nunca nil. Made a few attempts to contact them and got no reply. Oh well, I won't be going back. I want to be in a club with MINI fans...not m3 fans. I want to go on cruises with MINIs not BMWs. It isn't that i don't like BMWs, just I want a "MINI" club. MINICCA - joke if you ask me - never got off the ground, and I really doubt it will. MINICCA is partial ran by Charlie from RoadFly and if you look at their MINI site there and see the complete lack of anything on it, what do you think a club ran partial by them would be like.... Plus i really don't think a club for both classics and new MINIs would work well. Sure I'd love to see it as I love both, and am a member of my local classic Mini club, but they don't much give a rats arse about the new MINI, they like old cars(not saying this to be offensive, they just have different tastes and don't care for the new MINI, i can respect that). So basically we need a new MINI only club hence ClubMINI2. Hopefully there will people around the states that will be willing to start up ClubMINI2 chapters in their area. I will be doing one for Minnesota(actually at lunch going driving around town to look for a new MINI i heard was here..hehehe-recruting already). Cheers

Apr 24th, 2002, 12:24 PM	#27 (permalink)
TBDAugs MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 178 Offline	Couldn't agree more Casey so then, who's organizing the US regions? I'm in Northern Oklahoma. MidCentralAugs

Apr 24th, 2002, 12:34 PM	#28 (permalink)
Casey MINI2 co-founder Join Date: Jan 2001 Local Time: 08:10 PM Posts: 655 Offline	Lets start a list I started a thread http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...&threadid=6768 in the ClubMINI2 forum asking for people to sign up for their area to help run a local chapter of the club. Once we get a fair amount of people wanting to start local chapters we will all get together on #mini2 chat or something and discuss how we want to handle national events, etc as in the states it is a bit harder then then the UK due to the size differences...harder for everyone to make one National event when some people would have to drive a few days to get there. Cheers

Apr 24th, 2002, 12:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
districtofc MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC Local Time: 08:10 PM Posts: 370 Offline	a benefit BMW Club Racing: BMW CCA club racers will receive a six month subscription award for each class win (1 award per season). Grassroots Motorsports Stickers must be run on each side of the car. "The best change to your car you can make is adjusting the nut behind the wheel"

Apr 24th, 2002, 08:28 PM	#30 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:10 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Casey So basically we need a new MINI only club hence ClubMINI2. Hopefully there will people around the states that will be willing to start up ClubMINI2 chapters in their area. I will be doing one for Minnesota(actually at lunch going driving around town to look for a new MINI i heard was here..hehehe-recruting already). Cheers Goes a good way to explaining why MINI2.com is the most popular MINI site on the net......and judging by everyone's enthusiasm here, will remain so for a long long time to come.

Apr 25th, 2002, 09:01 AM	#31 (permalink)
Yurinaut MINI2 Sponsor & Moderator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: North Carolina Local Time: 08:10 PM Posts: 181 Offline	I agree with you Basil. This is the place to get the club going and so I have joined ClubMINI2 and you all should do the same!! I am also a member of the BMWCCA and have enjoyed the members and benefits of membership for years(wholesale costs on parts, owner appreciateion bonuses when you purchase new or Cert Pre-Owned, great monthly mag...etc). Hopefully we can all help move ClubMINI2 to this level. Perhaps, BMW may want to throw their corporate sponsership hat into this ring. It certainly is the best established MINI site around and already has a strong readership. Any comments der Byerische Moteren Werks?? Mike "As cunning as a fox named Cunning...."

Apr 26th, 2002, 09:25 PM	#32 (permalink)
dukesantos Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Viva Las Vegas Local Time: 05:10 PM Posts: 707 Offline	Mini Clubs TBD-- For what it's worth, there is another international mini register(club), check out www.minicooper.org. They are also based in UK, but have a group in Japan and reportedly are receptive to a USA region. Their cost to join is 22-33 pounds, depending on your domicile.

May 14th, 2002, 10:30 AM	#33 (permalink)
Bill Sz. MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southern California Local Time: 05:10 PM Posts: 164 Offline	If you live in or near Southern California, you might want to check out "Mini Owners of America - Los Angeles" or MOALA. The web-site address is: www.moala.org They sponsor rallies and other events. The club meets every third Wednesday of the month at Me-N-Ed's pizza restaurant at the corner of Carson and Paramount in Lakewood. They are real cool bunch of people! Bill Sz.

May 14th, 2002, 09:00 PM	#34 (permalink)
Bryan J MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Suburban Chicago, USA Local Time: 07:10 PM Posts: 1 Offline	Hey there, all. First post here. I'm a long-time fan of VW Golfs and am waiting for a new Cooper S. About 5 years ago, when the VW scene was just starting to take off, I helped get the Chicago Volkswagen Organization off the ground. At the time there were many established "vintage VW" clubs, but none had any interest in the GTI, Jetta, Corrado owners. With the help of a few friends and VWVortex.com (a website like Mini2), we were able to make a club for the new wave of enthusiasts. The situation was similar to what New MINI owners face now. The BMWCCA is a great club; I'm currently a member, though I haven't had one for about five years. I don't believe that the CCA is the best place for MINI owners long-term. I feel the brand deserves its own club. Although I am very busy running my business (we do performance and cosmetic enhancements for European cars) and I don't have the time to "run" a chapter or a club, I would be glad to assist the right people in taking the steps needed to properly set one up. The Chicago area is large enough to support a chapter of a national club. There are three dealers in the area. If anyone is interested in setting something up, send me an e-mail. On the subject of including older Minis in a new club, my experience with the VW scene is that owners of vintage cars tend to want to get together socially, show of their cars, swap parts, etc. I think many New MINI owners will be anxious to drive their cars at autocrosses, track days, and other similar events, as well as modifying them, and so on. I could be wrong, but that's what I've seen. Bryan Bryan Joslin 2000 Golf (for now)& 1984 Cabriolet

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May 15th, 2002, 12:36 AM	#35 (permalink)
dukesantos Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Viva Las Vegas Local Time: 05:10 PM Posts: 707 Offline	Hi- Great first post, I generally agree with your comments. I had a Cooper S years ago and I doubt if the two groups will mix much. Regarding BMW CCA, I am also a member and I think it would be wise to have some affiliation with them if possible. They have a lot of good programs, including track insurance, etc. Their board wants to be MINI inclusive.

May 18th, 2002, 02:54 AM	#36 (permalink)
Dodger MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Local Time: 01:10 AM Posts: 153 Offline	So sorry for the delay guys!!!!!! Hello America MINI Fans! I am really sorry for not answering some of your PM's or posting on here recently, Dodgeress has been a naughty girl! Okay, on the serious side, I took a break for a week and have been trying to catch up on the backlog of work ever since, nearly there now though I am locking this thread now and starting a new one in the ClubMINI2 forum where I would like everyone that is keen to help to register their names for me and then we can start communicating on a very regular basis and get this club rolling for you guys stateside! Please register your names even if you have already done so elsewhere, as we are starting from scratch in earnest now Lets get this show on the road............ Dodgeress xx

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