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GregF · Aug 7th, 2004, 11:50 PM

I know that several S owners have gone to 15" wheels, not only to lighten, but to soften or smooth out the ride, atleast on the older shocks.

Batgirl555 · Aug 8th, 2004, 01:47 AM

I've got an MCS with 17 inchers and I Love the ride. I went from a '99 Mitsubishi Eclipse to my Mini Cooper S (April '04 build) and I haven't noticed much of a difference. A couple people (my mother) has complained about the ride, but it's more my driving she's complaining about. (She just doesn't understand why it's so fun to double the speed limit around corners).
I'd assume that most of us who got the MCS test drove it and felt the ride so we knew what we were getting into. I know a couple people who got the MC with the SS+ and hadn't test driven it. That's where most of the complaints arise from I believe.
But on the other hand, I am very aware of the road and what I'm about to put my tire into. I don't care to snap a rim or pop my runflats.

EBMCS03 · Aug 8th, 2004, 09:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Batgirl555

I've got an MCS with 17 inchers and I Love the ride. I went from a '99 Mitsubishi Eclipse to my Mini Cooper S (April '04 build) and I haven't noticed much of a difference. A couple people (my mother) has complained about the ride, but it's more my driving she's complaining about. (She just doesn't understand why it's so fun to double the speed limit around corners).
I'd assume that most of us who got the MCS test drove it and felt the ride so we knew what we were getting into. I know a couple people who got the MC with the SS+ and hadn't test driven it. That's where most of the complaints arise from I believe.
But on the other hand, I am very aware of the road and what I'm about to put my tire into. I don't care to snap a rim or pop my runflats.

Yup knew what I was getting into... I asked about changing to the new softer SS+ but it would have costed too much money.

afromanbob · Aug 8th, 2004, 07:13 PM

I think another thing that creates more complaints is maybe older people driving one with SS+,

. But, in all honesty, do you think that could be where a lot of the complaints come from? I'm 17, and I'm pretty sure my bones can handle it. However, many people say that the ride is pretty much smooth. And lastly, the roads around me, with the exception of a couple of freeways, are pretty smooth roads.

oilman930 · Aug 8th, 2004, 07:21 PM

The suspension on a Cooper with Sport Suspension Plus is the same as the suspension on a Cooper S provided that the Cooper S does not have a sunroof. Sunroof equiped Cooper S's have different spring rates. Roll bars on a Cooper with the optional suspension upgrade and a Cooper S are the same. The addition of a sunroof make no difference.

You can see this for yourself since the springs are colour coded. Turn the steering wheel to full lock and with a torch look for a "hash" marks on the top coil of the spring.

nonsequitur · Aug 9th, 2004, 03:02 AM

So what did you actually order on the car?

We have found the SS+ works wonderfully with the R81 15x5.5" Wheels for the commute where the tires contribute significant compliance. Converting to a larger wheel and lower profile tires gives excellent track performance. We're very happy with this combination on the Cooper.

EBMCS03 · Aug 9th, 2004, 05:11 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by oilman930

Sunroof equiped Cooper S's have different spring rates.

Ehhhh really?? so whats the difference?

afromanbob · Aug 9th, 2004, 05:18 AM

I'll be getting the 16" 5-star wheels with, unfortunatly, the run-flats, but I'm sure once those are done I'll get some softer ones.

nonsequitur · Aug 9th, 2004, 05:30 AM

But the suspension; how did you order that?

In fact, what are the details of the whole car since you got a lot of us to express opinion it would be interesting to see what you finally ordered.

afromanbob · Aug 9th, 2004, 05:58 AM

I haven't officially ordered anything yet... but here's what I will order...

2005 MINI Cooper:

Black Body
White Roof
White Bonnet Stripes

Sport Package:
16" 5 Spoke Wheels (White)
Front fog lamps
Spoiler
DSC
Sport Seats

Harmon Kardon Stereo
Sport Suspension Plus
Xenon Headlights
Chrome Interior
Chrome Exterior
Leather Multifunction Steering Wheel
On-Board Computer
Chrome Mirror Caps
Anthracite Headliner (if it is still avaliable when I order)
Silver Interior Color

Aug 8th, 2004, 01:47 AM	#42 (permalink)
Batgirl555 Professional Flirt Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 341 Offline	Loves the MCS SS! I've got an MCS with 17 inchers and I Love the ride. I went from a '99 Mitsubishi Eclipse to my Mini Cooper S (April '04 build) and I haven't noticed much of a difference. A couple people (my mother) has complained about the ride, but it's more my driving she's complaining about. (She just doesn't understand why it's so fun to double the speed limit around corners). I'd assume that most of us who got the MCS test drove it and felt the ride so we knew what we were getting into. I know a couple people who got the MC with the SS+ and hadn't test driven it. That's where most of the complaints arise from I believe. But on the other hand, I am very aware of the road and what I'm about to put my tire into. I don't care to snap a rim or pop my runflats.

Aug 8th, 2004, 09:14 AM	#43 (permalink)
EBMCS03 M5 Extraordinare! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: So Cal Local Time: 06:15 PM Posts: 6,768 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Batgirl555 I've got an MCS with 17 inchers and I Love the ride. I went from a '99 Mitsubishi Eclipse to my Mini Cooper S (April '04 build) and I haven't noticed much of a difference. A couple people (my mother) has complained about the ride, but it's more my driving she's complaining about. (She just doesn't understand why it's so fun to double the speed limit around corners). I'd assume that most of us who got the MCS test drove it and felt the ride so we knew what we were getting into. I know a couple people who got the MC with the SS+ and hadn't test driven it. That's where most of the complaints arise from I believe. But on the other hand, I am very aware of the road and what I'm about to put my tire into. I don't care to snap a rim or pop my runflats. Yup knew what I was getting into... I asked about changing to the new softer SS+ but it would have costed too much money. EB/W MCS Arrived (3/26/03) SOLD 4/25/06

Aug 8th, 2004, 07:13 PM	#44 (permalink)
afromanbob MINI Owner! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Local Time: 06:15 PM Posts: 416 Offline	I think another thing that creates more complaints is maybe older people driving one with SS+, . But, in all honesty, do you think that could be where a lot of the complaints come from? I'm 17, and I'm pretty sure my bones can handle it. However, many people say that the ride is pretty much smooth. And lastly, the roads around me, with the exception of a couple of freeways, are pretty smooth roads. Let's Motor!

Aug 9th, 2004, 03:02 AM	#46 (permalink)
nonsequitur MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle area, WA Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 1,471 Offline	So what did you actually order on the car? We have found the SS+ works wonderfully with the R81 15x5.5" Wheels for the commute where the tires contribute significant compliance. Converting to a larger wheel and lower profile tires gives excellent track performance. We're very happy with this combination on the Cooper. '02 MINI Cooper CVT(6/12/02; Indi Blue/Black, R-81 7-hole 15x5.5" or NZO 16x6.5") '67 Austin Cooper S (6/26/67; Tartan Red/Black, 10x4.5")

Aug 9th, 2004, 05:11 AM	#47 (permalink)
EBMCS03 M5 Extraordinare! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: So Cal Local Time: 06:15 PM Posts: 6,768 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by oilman930 Sunroof equiped Cooper S's have different spring rates. Ehhhh really?? so whats the difference? EB/W MCS Arrived (3/26/03) SOLD 4/25/06

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Aug 7th, 2004, 11:50 PM	#41
GregF MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 09:15 PM Posts: 510 Offline	I know that several S owners have gone to 15" wheels, not only to lighten, but to soften or smooth out the ride, atleast on the older shocks.

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Aug 8th, 2004, 07:21 PM	#45 (permalink)
oilman930 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia,PA Local Time: 08:15 PM Posts: 72 Offline	The suspension on a Cooper with Sport Suspension Plus is the same as the suspension on a Cooper S provided that the Cooper S does not have a sunroof. Sunroof equiped Cooper S's have different spring rates. Roll bars on a Cooper with the optional suspension upgrade and a Cooper S are the same. The addition of a sunroof make no difference. You can see this for yourself since the springs are colour coded. Turn the steering wheel to full lock and with a torch look for a "hash" marks on the top coil of the spring.

Aug 9th, 2004, 05:18 AM	#48 (permalink)
afromanbob MINI Owner! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Local Time: 06:15 PM Posts: 416 Offline	I'll be getting the 16" 5-star wheels with, unfortunatly, the run-flats, but I'm sure once those are done I'll get some softer ones. Let's Motor!

Aug 9th, 2004, 05:30 AM	#49 (permalink)
nonsequitur MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle area, WA Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 1,471 Offline	But the suspension; how did you order that? In fact, what are the details of the whole car since you got a lot of us to express opinion it would be interesting to see what you finally ordered. '02 MINI Cooper CVT(6/12/02; Indi Blue/Black, R-81 7-hole 15x5.5" or NZO 16x6.5") '67 Austin Cooper S (6/26/67; Tartan Red/Black, 10x4.5")

Aug 9th, 2004, 05:58 AM	#50 (permalink)
afromanbob MINI Owner! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Local Time: 06:15 PM Posts: 416 Offline	I haven't officially ordered anything yet... but here's what I will order... 2005 MINI Cooper: Black Body White Roof White Bonnet Stripes Sport Package: 16" 5 Spoke Wheels (White) Front fog lamps Spoiler DSC Sport Seats Harmon Kardon Stereo Sport Suspension Plus Xenon Headlights Chrome Interior Chrome Exterior Leather Multifunction Steering Wheel On-Board Computer Chrome Mirror Caps Anthracite Headliner (if it is still avaliable when I order) Silver Interior Color Let's Motor!

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