[Jakx]

When will BMW release the official OPTIONS price list?

Anyone out there know . . . what does gazzaman28`s local dealer say?

Just a couple of points for discussion:-

1) Remote alarm, is it an option in the UK (£200 on gazza`s list) and, if so, what are the Insurance Premium or Delivery implications if you fail to specify it? Is it going to be a must have?

2) Are heated washer jets and mirrors really going to be an option (£40?), (it should certainly be standard on the Cooper Chili) if so, do I detect a penny-pinching Safety issue and, again a Delivery implication!

Personally, I keep thinking about a Cooper with Chili spec. in Indie Blue - vari colour delete - therefore silver alloys (save a fortune on WonderWheels) and traction control. Nothing else! Simple but stealthy!

But not too stealthy . . . buy a new COOPER badge/logo, (15 quid?) (yours got damaged) chuck it in a drawer, except the R, paint that dark red and stick it just after COOPER on the tailgate! Now, that would look interesting – obviously not an S, but MIGHT be a bit special, lower than a ONE? – Turbo Punto Man just wouldn`t quite know what to make of it would he?
(No need to prove anything of course, R could stand for Really!)

Just trying to inject a little light relief, I`m not being serious with that last bit smartbomb!

[smartbomb]

Apparently John Cooper garages will only be offering engine upgrade as BMW have created so many options (70 I have read) so until all is finalised..probably best to hang on...
I'd go for a decent set of wheels and stero upgrade and leave the rest alone....Owning a mini classic leccy windows are gonna be a novelty ! so best to spend the saved dosh on insurance...
I agree Jakz Punto Turbo guy ain't gonna know what a Cooper is....add the R and you'd be parked up on your driveway before he' s had a chance to offer you one his 'on a mission' stickers !

[gazzaman28]

The official and full options list won't be available until launch IMHO, as the options list I got was the only stuff they were doing for the first few thousand cars. I guess once the launch is out of the way and the production line is up to speed they will introduce the rest of the options... There wasn't even an option for same colour body and roof on the cooper AFAIK... Not that I was bothered but it did seem a bit odd!

I'm pretty sure after looking thru some other pics on the net that the standard 15" alloys are available in silver as well as white... I hope so anyway, I don't want any stupid white wheels, they will ruin a decent looking car!

No idea if the alarm cheapens insurance, i just declined an alarm as they are less than useless 99% of the time. How many people have heard a car alarm go off and thought "oh i think someone must be trying to steal that car"? OK, now how many people were thinking "bloody car alarms, always going off!!!"... I rest my case!

Any ideas on whether the standard stereo is a DIN sized fitting or one of these dodgy shaped ones? Hopefully it will be standard as I don't fancy shelling out for a blanking plate just to fit my MD player into the car! Any info on speaker specs? I know there's tweeters in the front, which is pretty cool. I just hope they fit meaty speakers in the back, as I don't fancy my chances of getting a custom backboard made until quite a few months after the release of the Mini.

A point on insurance, the Autocar test says the Cooper will be group 7, which surprised me, I thought it would be closer to 10...
Also, has anyone got any thoughts on what the cooper garages engine upgrades will be like, and how much they might cost... Also of course how much it will whack up the insurance is quite another thing!!!

[Paul]

We now have a full options list for MINI in the UK, including retail prices.

There's some stuff in the news section, and the list is here:
http://www.mini2.com/technical/options_uk.php

B)

[Tim]

Automatic air condition is listed at £200, with manual air conditioning at £600. Is the automatic version cheaper (unlikely), or must both be specified if one wants the automatic version (£800 all up)?

[BruceK]

Visibiity Package seems a little bit much: heated windsheild, auto dimming mirror and rain sensor.

I guess the heated windsheild means it is heated by means of internal electronics - i.e. not subject to just blowing heated air at its base - right?

But auto dimming mirrors - how hard is that to do? Most classic Minis didn't even have manual dipping mirrors! We learned to squint and we liked it!

Does anyone know about rain sensor? Does it just switch the wipers on or does it vary their speed depending upon conditions?

[MINIAC]

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On 25-05-2001 17:06 Tim wrote:
Automatic air condition is listed at £200, with manual air conditioning at £600. Is the automatic version cheaper (unlikely), or must both be specified if one wants the automatic version (£800 all up)?

I too was confused by this pricing ... the automatic price is probably a premium to be paid over the manual price.

Are the 8 spoke 15" wheels being offered the one's referenced in gazza's earlier "wheels" post:



IMHO cheapo looking ... I was hoping for some that looked like the ones on the Cloud 9 show car:



Finally, can anybody comment on how the KALEIDO Cloth / Leather seats look? I was hoping for something with Alcantra seating surfaces and leather bolsters.

[Paul]

OK, I confess, I made a boob!

The Auto Air Con is supposed to be £830 not £200. I have no idea where that £200 came from! I have corrected it now.

I have double checked all prices, and they are all correct, it was just that one I made a minor (£630) error with!

[Jakx]

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On 25-05-2001 18:18 rwmatson wrote:

. . . . alloy wheels . . . . I was hoping for some that looked like the ones on the Cloud 9 show car:

They really do look the business!
Can anyone please identify those wheels (on the Indi Blue MINI) - are they the 16" option or are they in fact 17" and just for the Show? Or the `S`?

[JoeM]

I'm just as confused on the 8 spoke wheel, as I asked this same question under the 'Wheels" tread and posted a photo of the yellow MINI with the same wheel as the blue MINI above. Paul's answer was yes. I wish we could verify this with BMW.

[MINIAC]

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On 25-05-2001 19:17 Jakx wrote:
Can anyone please identify those wheels (on the Indi Blue MINI) - are they the 16" option or are they in fact 17" and just for the Show? Or the `S`?

They are 17" wheels and I believe were shod with 205/45 tires. I'm guessing that they will be offered as an option on the Cooper S. I'm not a real big fan of the 17" wheels, because I think they look too big for the car, and will require very low profile tires which will not ride well on rough roads and probably wear out faster. I'm hoping they offer these 8 spoke wheels in a 16" fitment as well.

[Jakx]

Re: Those alloys on the Indi Blue MINI.

Thanks JoeM and rwmatson for your replies.

I agee with you, rwmatson, I thought they looked like 17"! I`m sure you`re right about them looking over-big on the MINI and likely to compromise the ride.

That same design in 16" would do very nicely, thankyou!

Another question, regarding the `S` in the UK! What IS the latest speculation regarding the price and std equipment.?
We`ve heard so many conflicting figures being put about - which doesn`t help when trying to choose between the Cooper and the `S` now!

There must be more than a few buyers preferring to shift their deposit and wait for the `S` given the fairly poor reception of the naturally aspirated lump by the motoring press!

Does anyone know someone, who knows someone who might have some details - perhaps working at Cowley - or who knows someone working in BMW`s ultimate marketing machine? Thought not! 8)7

Ok! How about this? What do our friends in the US expect the price differential between Cooper and Cooper `S` to be?

[BruceK]

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On 25-05-2001 22:04 Jakx wrote:
....There must be more than a few buyers preferring to shift their deposit and wait for the `S` given the fairly poor reception of the naturally aspirated lump by the motoring press!....

...Ok! How about this? What do our friends in the US expect the price differential between Cooper and Cooper `S` to be?...

I've read reviews on the MINI engine that are directly opposite to each other (very favorable vs. not impressed), so I suppose it depends which motoring journalist has the bigger axe to grind. You've got to remember that one of the original promises made about the new MINI by BMW years ago (yes, it has been a long, long time coming) was that the new MINI's engine would have some of the same charateristics as the trusty 1275 A-series in the classic Minis - namely a nice fat torque curve. Sounds like they've done it and I'm happy about it.

As for pricing in the US, I am guessing that a Cooper will be just under $18K and the S will be about $21-22K or around £15K.

[MINIAC]

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On 25-05-2001 22:04 Jakx wrote:
Ok! How about this? What do our friends in the US expect the price differential between Cooper and Cooper `S` to be?

I read that the Cooper will be priced just under $18K and would expect that the 'S' will be $3-4K more. As far as standard equipment, I'd expect it would be the same as a "Chili" Cooper, but with a supercharged engine, dual center exhaust and more agressive body kit. I emailed some questions regarding the 'S' to MINI USA and they replied by saying "our lips are sealed until after the car makes it debut at the Tokyo Auto Show".

Oops ... BruceK beat me to the punch! 8)7 So I'll add some more:

The Cooper S is going to be the hot ticket in the US. Out of the first 20 on one out-of-state dealer's waiting list, 12 are waiting for the 'S'. All 7 of the people who emailed me regarding "a MINI in the SF Bay Area for MSRP" wanted the 'S'. If you want the 'S" and aren't on a list yet, :O= GET IT IN GEAR!

[MINIAC]

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On 25-05-2001 16:43 Paul_Mullett wrote:
We now have a full options list for MINI in the UK, including retail prices.

There's some stuff in the news section, and the list is here:
http://www.mini2.com/technical/options_uk.php

B)

In looking at options, I didn't notice a navigation system (not that I want one) or the storage box that fits in the boot and provides a flat surface when the rear seats are folded down (something I would want).

[Paul]

Maybe the onbaord computer (very descriptive) is the Sat Nav. £100 seems a bit cheap for that to me though?

This is all we have from BMW at the moment, but of course if anything else comes up we'll get it on ASAP. I would think US prices are a while away yet, seeing as we have only just got these.

[MINIAC]

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On 26-05-2001 0:18 Paul_Mullett wrote:
Maybe the onbaord computer (very descriptive) is the Sat Nav. £100 seems a bit cheap for that to me though?

I just visited the BMW USA site where the onboard computer is described to have four useful functions related to weather and travel, which can be selected via a left steering wheel stalk control:

1. Outside temperature display with acoustic freeze warning

2. Average fuel economy since last reset

3. Average speed since last reset

4. Expected range on remaining fuel

The cost of this option is $300 while their navigation system is a $1800 option.

[BruceK]

Hmmmm... $1,800 on the small chance I don't know where I am going and I can't figure it out.

That kind of money would buy a lifetime stack of maps and as well as pay for a nice vacation to help forget your troubles. :P