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Rayman · Apr 17th, 2004, 05:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Badmao1

On my 21st birthday i was given some aprivate plates but am going to use them for the first time when my MCS arrives, the plate is V100 WEN. My question is if i slightly changed it the read V10 0WEN would i be in a lot of trouble?

I say go for it im thinking of buying a certain plate and using some strategically placed black screw fixings on to alter the spelling anyway.

Rayman · Apr 17th, 2004, 05:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Badmao1

If i did incounter said copper, whats the charge?

Its a fine isnt it? not sure they may give you a warning and so many days to sort it out so its legal!

Badmao1 · Apr 17th, 2004, 05:30 PM

Maybe carrying a legal set in the boot at all times would be a good idea then!

T13 Fighter · Apr 17th, 2004, 05:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Badmao1

If i did incounter said copper, whats the charge?

I think it really depends on who you get. Some might just say change it, some may fine you and if they get really arsey then it may be 3 points.

I'm not 100% on this but i think its about right.

From what you are planning to do 3 points is incredibly extreme, some of the stuff i've seen driving about is illegible where as yours should be pretty obvious what it really is.

Also depends where you go to get them made they might not make them, you need about 5 forms of ID, however go to a show and they dont ask questions just, make your plates and often make them much better that places such as Halfords will...

T13 Fighter · Apr 17th, 2004, 05:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Badmao1

Maybe carrying a legal set in the boot at all times would be a good idea then!

Mine are fixed on by velcro making it easy to change should the need arise, also looks better as there aren't any nasty holes to drill in your pride and joy!

Fizzle · Apr 17th, 2004, 05:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by T13 Fighter

Mine are fixed on by velcro making it easy to change should the need arise, also looks better as there aren't any nasty holes to drill in your pride and joy!

i have a legal set in the boot that dont have the holes drilled in them so i can use that as an excuse to why i haven't fitted them yet.

Badmao1 · Apr 17th, 2004, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Mine are fixed on by velcro making it easy to change should the need arise

Doesn't sound a bad idea, but maybe a bit too easy to steel?

andyupnorth · Apr 17th, 2004, 05:54 PM

The law states that,

You must not alter, rearrange or misrepresent the letters or numbers
Characters must not be moved from one group to the other (e.g. A242 ABC must not be displayed as A242A BC).
Offences may result in any or all of the following:

A fine of up to £1,000
The registration mark may be WITHDRAWN
The vehicle may FAIL the MOT test
Full details of the requirements are included in The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001

I pasted that from the DVLA website.

T13 Fighter · Apr 17th, 2004, 05:54 PM

Depends upon where you live and park, would you park your car where you could keep an eye on it all the time?

ALD0 · Apr 17th, 2004, 05:59 PM

Fine is upto £1000 and the Plate can be revoked from yourself-

Also I would not reckomend carrying a set of Road Legal Plates in your car as if you say this to the Constabulary he/she will then say in reply- "Oh so you knew they were illegal-as you have the road legal set in the boot of your Car"

Also i'm pretty sure that Registration Marks are to be Securely Fastened to the car-i.e Screwed on-That is the law-but alot of Garages/Dealers sometimes Stick the Plates on Instead of Screwing them on.

ALD0 · Apr 17th, 2004, 06:01 PM

Sorry Andyupnorth-You replied B4 Me!!!

andyupnorth · Apr 17th, 2004, 06:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by interceptor

Sorry Andyupnorth-You replied B4 Me!!!

Every now and then I am on the ball.

But not often though!

'THE MIGHTY IMP' · Apr 17th, 2004, 06:25 PM

My 'creatively spaced' plates are on the car, only for photo shoots...

Sometimes, being human, I forget to remove the 'creatively spaced' plates..

My normally spaced plates are in the boot, with a spare set of fixers.

I believe that if i were to forget about my plates, and get pulled over, that my willingness to stick the regular plates on straight away would buy me some good will...

As for not having real ones in the boot because it proves that you knew that they were illegal, I have two points:

1. Ignorance is no defence in the eyes of the law.

2. Your 'creatively spaced' number plate provider should do the following before he issues your plates. They are supposed to see vehicle documents, your driving licence or other I.D, and then they are only allowed to issue the plates if you sign a statement saying you are buying the plates as 'show plates', and that you will not have them on the car on a public road. They will want to put their garage name on the bottom of the plates, so that the officer can get in touch with the garage to see if you have signed such a declaration. If you could get them to leave no trace of their garage/shop identity, it could come in useful.

Where i live, so many cars have their plates spaced in such blatantly changed formats, that my plate hopefully should be the last on their list.

hope this helps..

MJ. · Apr 18th, 2004, 12:01 PM

i ordered some plates off the net the other week. Big company. Typed in what i wanted and two days later said plates arrived. No documents needed, no id, no nothing. Yes the spacing is illegal but we'll see..... PM me if you want the address.

Badmao1 · Apr 18th, 2004, 12:06 PM

Has anyone else got private plates, legal or not?

Do you think my plate is worth much? Might be able to sell them to someone rich and famous, he only famous Owen's i know are Michael Owen(Liverpool & England) & Mark Owen (former member of Take That).

monkeynuts · Apr 18th, 2004, 01:33 PM

I have had a taste of this myself.

I bought X80 RGX last year for £499 which is naff all.

I did have it spaced to read X 80RG X

I was driving happily along and saw a fair few police pulling certain people over.

They pulled me. They were doing TAX checks and the computer could not read my plate so they just advised me to change it. They did warn that the DVLA could take the plate back - seriously though how likely is this???????

I have or did not mess with the font at all simply spaced out slightly different.

I have previously on a different plate been asked to go to an MOT centre to get their slip stamped to prove legal plates were now on it - a little inconvenience i guess but no fine.

How many stops do you get before you are in serious trouble????

Yet again another tax on the motorist!

jasonfields007 · Apr 18th, 2004, 03:08 PM

my mate got pulled yesterday for his blue neons that he left on... oops. they also said that his plate was spaced illegally (W32 1UKE - He's called luke) but just advised him to change them ASAP.

J

andyupnorth · Apr 18th, 2004, 05:34 PM

I still think the Americans have the right term to describe these plates: "Vanity Plates"...

BTW...Jason - your Union Flag in your signature is upside down, which is an internationally recognised distress signal - are you trying to tell us something??

jasonfields007 · Apr 18th, 2004, 08:55 PM

oh well!

bryfliesme · Apr 18th, 2004, 09:04 PM

What do you think?

Vanity Plates in CA:

XXS ONE

I am not sure if I ought to order or not.....suggestions?

Apr 17th, 2004, 05:26 PM	#201
Rayman "Buying and selling" Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Warrington Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 786 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Badmao1 On my 21st birthday i was given some aprivate plates but am going to use them for the first time when my MCS arrives, the plate is V100 WEN. My question is if i slightly changed it the read V10 0WEN would i be in a lot of trouble? I say go for it im thinking of buying a certain plate and using some strategically placed black screw fixings on to alter the spelling anyway. 2001 cooper (sold) 1995 Supra RZ-S TT auto in white.

Apr 17th, 2004, 05:28 PM	#202 (permalink)
Rayman "Buying and selling" Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Warrington Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 786 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Badmao1 If i did incounter said copper, whats the charge? Its a fine isnt it? not sure they may give you a warning and so many days to sort it out so its legal! 2001 cooper (sold) 1995 Supra RZ-S TT auto in white.

Apr 17th, 2004, 05:34 PM	#204 (permalink)
T13 Fighter Badger Badger Badger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Coruscant Local Time: 01:16 AM Posts: 477 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Badmao1 If i did incounter said copper, whats the charge? I think it really depends on who you get. Some might just say change it, some may fine you and if they get really arsey then it may be 3 points. I'm not 100% on this but i think its about right. From what you are planning to do 3 points is incredibly extreme, some of the stuff i've seen driving about is illegible where as yours should be pretty obvious what it really is. Also depends where you go to get them made they might not make them, you need about 5 forms of ID, however go to a show and they dont ask questions just, make your plates and often make them much better that places such as Halfords will... MINI not coming now so i'm going racing instead

Apr 17th, 2004, 05:36 PM	#205 (permalink)
T13 Fighter Badger Badger Badger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Coruscant Local Time: 01:16 AM Posts: 477 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Badmao1 Maybe carrying a legal set in the boot at all times would be a good idea then! Mine are fixed on by velcro making it easy to change should the need arise, also looks better as there aren't any nasty holes to drill in your pride and joy! MINI not coming now so i'm going racing instead

Apr 17th, 2004, 05:54 PM	#208 (permalink)
andyupnorth MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Newcastle Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 767 Offline	The law states that, You must not alter, rearrange or misrepresent the letters or numbers Characters must not be moved from one group to the other (e.g. A242 ABC must not be displayed as A242A BC). Offences may result in any or all of the following: A fine of up to £1,000 The registration mark may be WITHDRAWN The vehicle may FAIL the MOT test Full details of the requirements are included in The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001 I pasted that from the DVLA website. "Do try to keep up Nigel!"

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Apr 17th, 2004, 05:30 PM	#203 (permalink)
Badmao1 Whatever Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 30 Offline	Maybe carrying a legal set in the boot at all times would be a good idea then!

Apr 17th, 2004, 05:39 PM	#206 (permalink)
Fizzle Maxin' and Relaxin' Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Newcastle Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 441 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by T13 Fighter Mine are fixed on by velcro making it easy to change should the need arise, also looks better as there aren't any nasty holes to drill in your pride and joy! i have a legal set in the boot that dont have the holes drilled in them so i can use that as an excuse to why i haven't fitted them yet.

Apr 17th, 2004, 05:44 PM	#207 (permalink)
Badmao1 Whatever Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 30 Offline	Quote: Mine are fixed on by velcro making it easy to change should the need arise Doesn't sound a bad idea, but maybe a bit too easy to steel?

Apr 17th, 2004, 05:54 PM	#209 (permalink)
T13 Fighter Badger Badger Badger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Coruscant Local Time: 01:16 AM Posts: 477 Offline	Depends upon where you live and park, would you park your car where you could keep an eye on it all the time? MINI not coming now so i'm going racing instead

Apr 17th, 2004, 05:59 PM	#210 (permalink)
ALD0 Hacked the IBUS Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 01:16 AM Posts: 9,202 Offline	Fine is upto £1000 and the Plate can be revoked from yourself- Also I would not reckomend carrying a set of Road Legal Plates in your car as if you say this to the Constabulary he/she will then say in reply- "Oh so you knew they were illegal-as you have the road legal set in the boot of your Car" Also i'm pretty sure that Registration Marks are to be Securely Fastened to the car-i.e Screwed on-That is the law-but alot of Garages/Dealers sometimes Stick the Plates on Instead of Screwing them on. http://www.becardsmart.org.uk/

Apr 17th, 2004, 06:01 PM	#211 (permalink)
ALD0 Hacked the IBUS Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 01:16 AM Posts: 9,202 Offline	Sorry Andyupnorth-You replied B4 Me!!! http://www.becardsmart.org.uk/

Apr 17th, 2004, 06:02 PM	#212 (permalink)
andyupnorth MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Newcastle Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 767 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by interceptor Sorry Andyupnorth-You replied B4 Me!!! Every now and then I am on the ball. But not often though! "Do try to keep up Nigel!"

Apr 17th, 2004, 06:25 PM	#213 (permalink)
'THE MIGHTY IMP' Grinny's the Mini 4 me! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 956 Offline	My 'creatively spaced' plates are on the car, only for photo shoots... Sometimes, being human, I forget to remove the 'creatively spaced' plates.. My normally spaced plates are in the boot, with a spare set of fixers. I believe that if i were to forget about my plates, and get pulled over, that my willingness to stick the regular plates on straight away would buy me some good will... As for not having real ones in the boot because it proves that you knew that they were illegal, I have two points: 1. Ignorance is no defence in the eyes of the law. 2. Your 'creatively spaced' number plate provider should do the following before he issues your plates. They are supposed to see vehicle documents, your driving licence or other I.D, and then they are only allowed to issue the plates if you sign a statement saying you are buying the plates as 'show plates', and that you will not have them on the car on a public road. They will want to put their garage name on the bottom of the plates, so that the officer can get in touch with the garage to see if you have signed such a declaration. If you could get them to leave no trace of their garage/shop identity, it could come in useful. Where i live, so many cars have their plates spaced in such blatantly changed formats, that my plate hopefully should be the last on their list. hope this helps.. Ian M Grinny the mini - Trippin the light fantastic!

Apr 18th, 2004, 12:01 PM	#214 (permalink)
MJ. All over the place!! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: West Sussex Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 74 Offline	i ordered some plates off the net the other week. Big company. Typed in what i wanted and two days later said plates arrived. No documents needed, no id, no nothing. Yes the spacing is illegal but we'll see..... PM me if you want the address. Nothing but after after and more s!

Apr 18th, 2004, 12:06 PM	#215 (permalink)
Badmao1 Whatever Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 30 Offline	Has anyone else got private plates, legal or not? Do you think my plate is worth much? Might be able to sell them to someone rich and famous, he only famous Owen's i know are Michael Owen(Liverpool & England) & Mark Owen (former member of Take That).

Apr 18th, 2004, 01:33 PM	#216 (permalink)
monkeynuts my ponies have escaped!!! My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: TBC Local Time: 01:16 AM Posts: 4,959 Offline	I have had a taste of this myself. I bought X80 RGX last year for £499 which is naff all. I did have it spaced to read X 80RG X I was driving happily along and saw a fair few police pulling certain people over. They pulled me. They were doing TAX checks and the computer could not read my plate so they just advised me to change it. They did warn that the DVLA could take the plate back - seriously though how likely is this??????? I have or did not mess with the font at all simply spaced out slightly different. I have previously on a different plate been asked to go to an MOT centre to get their slip stamped to prove legal plates were now on it - a little inconvenience i guess but no fine. How many stops do you get before you are in serious trouble???? Yet again another tax on the motorist! m o n k e y : n u t s

Apr 18th, 2004, 03:08 PM	#217 (permalink)
jasonfields007 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: May 2003 Location: Radlett. Herts Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 1,870 Offline	my mate got pulled yesterday for his blue neons that he left on... oops. they also said that his plate was spaced illegally (W32 1UKE - He's called luke) but just advised him to change them ASAP. J '06' Cooper S Convertible - Astro Black, '04' Mazda RX8 231 - Black

Apr 18th, 2004, 05:34 PM	#218 (permalink)
andyupnorth MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Newcastle Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 767 Offline	I still think the Americans have the right term to describe these plates: "Vanity Plates"... BTW...Jason - your Union Flag in your signature is upside down, which is an internationally recognised distress signal - are you trying to tell us something?? "Do try to keep up Nigel!"

Apr 18th, 2004, 08:55 PM	#219 (permalink)
jasonfields007 MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: May 2003 Location: Radlett. Herts Local Time: 02:16 AM Posts: 1,870 Offline	oh well! '06' Cooper S Convertible - Astro Black, '04' Mazda RX8 231 - Black

Apr 18th, 2004, 09:04 PM	#220 (permalink)
bryfliesme feisty footie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilroy, CA Local Time: 06:16 PM Posts: 377 Offline	What do you think? Vanity Plates in CA: XXS ONE I am not sure if I ought to order or not.....suggestions?

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