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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 01:59 PM   #1
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United-States Buyers Remorse?

Ordered my 05 MCS last night. Did anyone else wonder why they paid sticker price the morning after? I had to go rent the Italian Job just to make myself feel better.
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 02:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sticker price? you mean like the actual price right? like the one the dealer quoted you?

im alil confused here!

italian job rocks big time tho! good choice def!
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 02:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I didn't wonder. I actually think that the sticker on my car ('04 MCS, fully loaded) is a good value, compared to other comparable cars. But then, I also paid sticker (or nearly that) for my last 2 cars, which I also specal ordered. Just how it goes, I guess.

I don't know of anyone paying under sticker, unless they take a car off a dealer's lot that the dealer needs to move.

You got a good deal -- at least as good as anyone else, and better than many (who are paying premiums).

You'll feel MUCH better after you take delivery. So, relax -- and start planning for your first drive!


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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 02:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply. They were willing to sell me the 04 on the lot, but wanted $1000 over. So, I went ahead and ordered the 05. They say the car will be delivered in Oct. It is going to be four long months. !
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 03:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by ljzz
Thanks for the reply. They were willing to sell me the 04 on the lot, but wanted $1000 over. So, I went ahead and ordered the 05. They say the car will be delivered in Oct. It is going to be four long months. !

It'll be worth the wait

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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 03:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by ljzz
Thanks for the reply. They were willing to sell me the 04 on the lot, but wanted $1000 over. So, I went ahead and ordered the 05. They say the car will be delivered in Oct. It is going to be four long months. !

You're right, it is a long wait. I still have 5+ weeks to go. Paying sticker remorse did set in on me the next day until I realized that is a deal for a MINI

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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 04:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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sticker is standard - and it's one hell of a car when you get it
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 04:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I paid 2500 over MSRP, tlk about remorse! But it all goes away when you see your baby in the dealership, waiting to go!
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 06:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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When you consider MINI's excellent resale value (About 63%+ off original MSRP after 4 years), your buyer's remorse will most likely go out the window.

The MINI is an incredible value at window sticker price.

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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 08:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by CooperS4us
When you consider MINI's excellent resale value (About 63%+ off original MSRP after 4 years), your buyer's remorse will most likely go out the window.

The MINI is an incredible value at window sticker price.

Agree with all of this. It is a great value at MSRP and therefore you should not lose any sleep over it (Unless the lost sleep is due to eagerness for the car to arrive!)
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 08:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Johnny, where and when did you buy yours?

Let's Motor!
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 08:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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My wife wants to get a new car/truck/SUV and just about every one has major rebates off the sticker price. We looked at one that had over a third of the sticker price slashed off the MSRP. It makes me wonder what kind of crap they are trying to pull, or what is wrong with the vehicle if it is has $11,000 marked off the original price. Worst of all, some dealer have bigger rebates than others, it is crazy!

I was very happy to pay the $21,000 sticker price on my Cooper. This car is well worth what I paid and I know that every dealer is charging close to the same for cars like mine. It took away the trouble of going to fifty different dealers to buy the same car. The Cooper is a great car for the money and you know that the dealer that you will be dealing with for service and future purchases are not trying to pull one over on you.

Only the dealers that are charging above sticker are screwing people (and must be avoided, to discourage such behavior)

One nice thing about everyone paying MSRP or higher is the resale value will be higher and stay at a consistant level. If we buy the DurangoCherokeeTrailBlazin'Explorer, who knows what the $31,000 car that we bought of $19,000 is really worth. Imagine the poor idiots that paid close to MSRP for these so-called cars? I bet they are taking a bath!

After I bought the MINI, I did not have one once of remorse for what I paid for it, because that is the price that everyone pays. When we get my wifes SUV (I know...SUV's are evil, but I let her get what she wants and I get the car I want), we will likely pay at least $8000 below MSRP, but I will still wonder how they screwed us on that deal.
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 08:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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By the time I am all done, I will have paid a $1500 premium for my baby... but to me, the car, not having to spend time I don't have to travel somewhere, and not paying a seperate company shipping (if they damage it, who knows what it would take to fix it)... and getting EXACTLY what I want are all part of the premium. I know it might sound like a rip off, but one dealer wanted to charge $5000 over MSRP, another dealer tried to tell me that they would only charge me $2000 over, but also told me the sticker was $1500 more than what it actually was... there is only one dealer in SoCal (Vegas included) that wasn't charging a premium, and they told me it was a 1 year + waiting list, and I no special ordering- I got what I got... So I made my choice, and am very happy. My MA, while a little overloaded, has been great with my pestering and questions, hasn't treated me like a stupid woman (I actually know quite a bit about cars), and I'm getting a MINI!!!!!!!!! I ordered it from Nick Alexander MINI in LA, CA...
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 10:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Go to edmunds.com, spec out an '04 or an '03 MINI like yours in the used section. See how much its worth. That's the benefit of paying MSRP, the resale values are pretty insane. While you're there you can check out edmunds' true market value, which should (I haven't checked recently) also be MSRP. However for something like a heavily rebated old model, the TMV could be 5K under sticker.

In the end, do you really care if you saved $500 or something? Its not like you have gotten a MINI for $3K under invoice, so its totally worth the full price. An 'old' '04 for $1K is just price gouging, and your dealer should be ashamed for trying to sell it at that price.

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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 10:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
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When ordering a vehicle to MY specifications, I have no right to expect to get any kind of discount, IMO. I was more than happy to pay the sticker price.

Now, if I had bought one off the lot, then I would have tried to deal a little...
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Old Jul 14th, 2004, 10:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You won't get anything off the list price cos the way BMW MINI have marketed it and produced it they have created a waiting list which now is a product of its success but originally seemed to have been almost built into MINI.They have the demand to outstrip supply and it seems that some manufacturers have the knack of creating these 'must have cars'.Fortunately for us the product in general is fantastic.I know we pay a premium for our MINIs (i could buy two VW polos for the price of my MINI ONE...due sept)but when it comes to changing our cars we will all be glad of our nice high resale values.To prove that point I have just ordered my second MINI ONE.I've only had this one for 18 months but the dealer offered me a good deal to buy mine back,it will only be 20 months old when i get my new one .How many cars could you do that with?
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Old Oct 19th, 2004, 04:24 AM   #17 (permalink)
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That $2500 dealer markup is pretty standard if you live in the bay area (san francisco region) in california.

For any future owners, i went through a broker and got that dropped down by a bit...
I'd share, but I'm not too sure if anyone monitors these forums and snitches on us. hahaha.

anyway PM me if you are interested.
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Old Oct 19th, 2004, 08:49 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Factor in what you'd have to put up with to own those discounted vehicles and the MINI's a bargain at twice the price (well, maybe not twice).

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